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rape of a quite virgin muslim shabham could be believed even if untrue will anyone believe shabham had consented sex with him
well that would be poetic justice!!Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
dupl
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Originally Posted by lizann
It would indeed! :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
EastEnders villain Dean Wicks will make a shocking move in the first of tonight's dramatic episodes (February 19) as he plans to start a fire at the Queen Vic.
Dean (Matt Di Angelo), who was seen secretly returning to Albert Square last night, sets a drastic revenge plan into motion in explosive scenes.
Wanting to make the Carter family suffer after Linda rightly reported him for rape, Dean arrives at The Vic with a lighter and petrol in hand.
Ruthless Dean pours petrol all over the barrel store, but he is stopped in his tracks when Linda's daughter Nancy (Maddy Hill) notices the smell and arrives to investigate.
Nancy is taken hostage by Dean but her father Mick (Danny Dyer) soon finds them and makes a drastic plan of his own to deal with the situation.
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Dean plans to commit arson
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Dean plans to commit arson
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Dean takes Nancy hostage
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Dean takes Nancy hostage
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Mick catches Dean with Nancy
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Mick catches Dean with Nancy
How far will Mick go to save his family?
For god sake Mick, get rid of him. He's put your wife through hell and is now threatening to kill your daughter, what more do you want before you realise you have to do something.
yes enough of being 'the better man' just batter the weasel!!Quote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
Did I see Shirley give Linda a half smile last night? She must truly believe Linda's version at long last, thank goodness. I hope we see a very profuse apology soon.
A backbone would be a good start!Quote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
A backbone would be a good start!Quote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
I do think Mick's got a backbone. It's quite refreshing to see a strong man in a soap who doesn't resort to violence at the slightest thing, but I do agree that Dean needs sorting out quick smart now!Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
backbone isnt only a physical reference. It refersQuote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
also to determination strength of character
fortitude. He doesnt come across to me as a man
of strong character- too easy going etc.But different
people have different perceptions.
I dont agree with violence either from men(or women)
also .
We have been told -no legal punishment (which
I would prefer) but lets hope things are sorted
soon!
backbone isnt only a physical reference. It refersQuote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
also to determination strength of character
fortitude. He doesnt come across to me as a man
of strong character- too easy going etc.But different
people have different perceptions.
I dont agree with violence either from men(or women)
also .
We have been told -no legal punishment (which
I would prefer) but lets hope things are sorted
soon!
I hope Shirley and all the family hears Dean admit to raping LindaQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I think hearing him say it would be good too for Linda to help her try and move on
Yes, I understand that backbone refers to strength of character. I do believe that Mick has that strength though. He's easy going most of the time but can stand up for himself and his family when necessary. He just hides it well.Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
If you remember a scene a few months back where Phil came into a packed Vic kicking off, the characters and us viewers alike were surprised that Mick took no nonsense from the bully and kicked him out with a few well-chosen words. That's my idea of backbone.
It also took immense willpower for Mick not to beat Dean when they had that standoff at the allotments a couple of weeks ago.
I think most of us would agree now that the time has come for Mick to put a stop to Dean one way or another.
(By the way I'm very much against violence too and have always argued for a legal resolution to the rape storyline.)
I can agree with a lot you say Dazzle but IQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
cant really remember any specific instances
were he has stuck up for his family and that
is what the original post was about. He does
seem to let things wash over him.
Once we have had the Lucy reveal -I
hope Dean is sorted and quickly.
This is what I wrote in reply before tonight's episode but never got around to posting until now:-Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
The stand out time he's backed his family in my opinion is the way he stood by Linda 100% about the rape. He's never doubted her story for an instant, even in the face of Dean, Shirley and Stan's poisonous words. He also listened to Linda when she told him that she didn't want him to physically confront Dean (well, after the initial shock wore off lol), something not many men in soap would have done.
He also made sure that Stan didn't manipulate poor Tina into helping him kill himself.
Despite all of Stan's vile behaviour recently he hasn't kicked him out of the Vic (something I don't think I'd have had the strength to do).
I don't think Mick's perfect by any means. It took him far too long to clock there was something seriously wrong with Linda, and she ought to have felt she could confide in him straight away. The way he took the blame for Ian's kerb crawling was ludicrous (and impacted his family badly so it's true he wasn't looking out for them in that instance).
So he's not perfect but I think he's definitely displayed that he has a backbone and will stand up for his family. :)
Since seeing tonight's episode:-
Well he put Dean in his place at last. Is that the end of Dean? :eek:
Didn't feel dramatic enough and you know how EE goes for dramaticness in a stand off like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
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Very very true :DQuote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
is he dead?
I guess we'll find out tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
so did mick move the body of dean
Yes. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Well that's what we're being led to believe anyway. He could rise from the dead one day as Kathy's done. Never say never.
Mick's mood was certainly very serious so I'd say he thinks he's killed him at the very least.
Edit: I don't know what to think about Dean's "death" now after a couple hours' thinking time. We weren't shown any proof he's dead and Mick's dark mood could be down to any number of things.
I'm not convinced he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
EastEnders star Matt Di Angelo has kept tight-lipped over whether fans will see his character Dean Wicks again.
Thursday night's hour-long 30th anniversary special saw a lifeless Dean left alone in the Queen Vic's barrel store after he was knocked unconscious by his brother Mick (Danny Dyer) in another violent row.
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Matt Di Angelo as Dean Wicks in EastEnders
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Matt Di Angelo as Dean Wicks
While it seemed that Dean may have been killed off, there was no sign of him in the barrel store by the end of Friday's 30-minute full live episode - leaving viewers to wonder whether he regained consciousness or whether Mick disposed of his body.
Speaking about pretending to be 'unconscious' for the scenes, Di Angelo told EastEnders: Backstage Live: "It took a lot of rehearsal! I held my breath for quite a while!"
However, asked to confirm whether Dean is really dead, he told show host Joe Swash: "I can't say. You never know. I can't say anything!"
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Nancy demands to know what's happened to Dean
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Nancy demands to know what's happened to Dean
Upcoming EastEnders episodes will see Mick's daughter Nancy (Maddy Hill) in turmoil as she believes that her father is now a killer. She ultimately shares her fears with her mum Linda (Kellie Bright), who was raped by Dean last year.
However, further footage shown on EastEnders: Backstage Live revealed that the Carters are soon rocked further when they hear that a body matching Dean's description has been found in a burnt-out car - which will no doubt fuel Nancy's suspicions that he is gone for good.
:hmm: I don't think he is dead, the body won't be Dean's :nono:
Its seems to go against spoliers /interviews if
Deano is dead-not that I will mind if he is!
Odd bits I remember-
Both Actors playing Shabnam & Deano
said they had discussed acting their roles
together-in some detail in separate
interviews.
Thought Matt had had new contract recently
and he quoted a discussion he had had
with director - which hinted that tho no
legal solution the character would be around
for quite a while-still causing probs.
I know none of above absolutely definite
and expect a bit of "misdirection/red herrings"
etc. Especially with Lucy story/anniversary!
But I did expect more before the end of story!!
Silly idea prob-perhaps Dean will go into
hiding abd blackmail Mick or cause trouble
from afar!!
Dupl
Really hoping for a surprise exit for Dean. He's getting on my nerves. There's too many Carters anyway.
Yet another Carter storyline looks like an impression of the early days of the Slaters. Trevor and his getting up and walking off, anyone?
Yes, I'd be delighted never to see Dean again. I think my initial conviction that he was dead was wishful thinking!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
I've seen others say that Babe may be involved in his disappearance (whether by helping Mick get rid of the body or helping Dean escape). I though her single scene was odd and out of place, so it makes sense that the writers included it just to show she was in Albert Square that night.
You could well be right there, Dazzle. Babe's appearance was totally unnecessary but they don't write these things in for nothing!
i forgot babe was there i don't think dean is dead
EastEnders' Shirley Carter will discover the extent of her son Dean Wicks's troubles next week as he reveals how much he suffered in prison.
Upcoming episodes will see Dean (Matt Di Angelo) released from jail, meaning that he is able to attend Stan's funeral.
When Dean returns home with Shirley and Buster, Linda surprises everyone by insisting on speaking to Dean alone.
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Linda is stunned to hear Shirley say she is bringing Dean home.
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Linda is stunned to hear Shirley's news
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Mick tells Dean what he thinks of him.
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Mick tells Dean what he thinks of him
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Linda is horrified to see Dean raising a glass to Stan.
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Mick and Linda are shocked by Dean
Although Linda orders Dean to finally admit what he did to her as there is nobody else around to hear them, they are soon interrupted by Mick who puts an end to the conversation.
A furious Mick then warns Shirley that Dean isn't welcome at Stan's funeral and as tensions escalate later in the week, Mick forces Dean out of The Vic.
With Shirley and Buster firmly by his side, Dean soon reveals the extent of his prison ordeal, leaving Shirley feeling distressed.
After seeing how much Dean suffered while in prison, Shirley makes a decision and asks Phil for a cash loan. What is she up to?
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Buster takes Dean inside
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Buster takes Dean inside
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Dean shows Shirley the bruises he got in prison.
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Dean shows Shirley the bruises he got in prison
EastEnders airs these scenes on Thursday April 23 at 7.30pm on BBC One.
I'm not impressed by this attempt to make Dean sympathetic. My only interest is justice for Linda. Get Dean permanently off our screens ASAP! :angry:
I agree 100% Dazzle. Whatever they have in mind for Dean finally had better be good and the sooner the better.
The rape again seems another thing pushed to the side with Stan's death
Surely in some way he has to actually confess so that Shirley, Buster and Denise (not that it's got anything to do with her!) learn the truth. Surely!
shirley needs to hear him confess and then how can he stay aroundQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman