EE lost to emmerdale again

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Originally Posted by alan45

You forgot to mention the OBVIOUS advantage and that is that Emmerdale is better written, better acted and better quality than Eastenders with its tired plots and poor scripts.

Emmerdale is repeated on ITV 2 so if people really wanted to watch EE they would watch it when it was on

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During the day when most people are at work. EastEnders gets a night time repeat..

I personnally think Emmerdale is pants at the moment with only one good thing = the wonderful Rosemerry.

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Originally Posted by Rovers Return

During the day when most people are at work. EastEnders gets a night time repeat..

I personnally think Emmerdale is pants at the moment with only one good thing = the wonderful Rosemerry.

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Thats probably why video recorders and PVRs were invented.

Emmerdale and EE going head to head is nothing new.

Here is an interesting post which I read on DS.

Quotes from the '30th Anniversary' Emmerdale book;

1985 - 'Emmerdale farm was now shown in prime time early evening slots in all the ITV regions. It saw off a significant challenger - Eastenders, which started in February, and was put on at the 7pm, the same time that most areas of the country (but not London) showed Emmerdale Farm. In almost all parts of the country where the two soaps were going head-to-head Emmerdale farm was watched by more people. The BBC were forced to move their programme to 7.30pm!'

Now theres a surprise.

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Originally Posted by alan45

Emmerdale and EE going head to head is nothing new.

Here is an interesting post which I read on DS.

Quotes from the '30th Anniversary' Emmerdale book;

1985 - 'Emmerdale farm was now shown in prime time early evening slots in all the ITV regions. It saw off a significant challenger - Eastenders, which started in February, and was put on at the 7pm, the same time that most areas of the country (but not London) showed Emmerdale Farm. In almost all parts of the country where the two soaps were going head-to-head Emmerdale farm was watched by more people. The BBC were forced to move their programme to 7.30pm!'

Now theres a surprise.

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Not really Alan.. EE was a new soap, it take a while before they kick off at which point Emmerdale Farm was already on for a few years.. After EE got into it's swing EF changed their name and had that very explosive Aeroplane crash episode which have viewers coming back in their thousands..

Now however, tables have turned again and yes while I do believe the Emmerdale maybe better than EE now and will win in head2head regardless of repeat etc etc.. i will still watch EE and I gave up watching Emmerdale when Kim left...

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Originally Posted by Siobhan

Not really Alan.. EE was a new soap, it take a while before they kick off at which point Emmerdale Farm was already on for a few years.. After EE got into it's swing EF changed their name and had that very explosive Aeroplane crash episode which have viewers coming back in their thousands..

Now however, tables have turned again and yes while I do believe the Emmerdale maybe better than EE now and will win in head2head regardless of repeat etc etc.. i will still watch EE and I gave up watching Emmerdale when Kim left...

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I take your point but then way back then Eastenders was in my opinion far in front of Emmerdale Farm and I would never have missed an episode now its the other way about.

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Originally Posted by alan45

I take your point but then way back then Eastenders was in my opinion far in front of Emmerdale Farm and I would never have missed an episode now its the other way about.

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yeah, I never watched EF when I was younger. Was totally addicted to Corrie and was so excited about EE.. Now, due to kids, work etc, I only watch H&W and EE... I can't back into Emmerdale or Corrie if I have not seen them for a while.. EE I just flow back into for some reason.. but that is just me.. I also stopped watching the Bill, which is a shame really, it is still excellent drama

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Originally Posted by alan45

Emmerdale and EE going head to head is nothing new.

Here is an interesting post which I read on DS.

Quotes from the '30th Anniversary' Emmerdale book;

1985 - 'Emmerdale farm was now shown in prime time early evening slots in all the ITV regions. It saw off a significant challenger - Eastenders, which started in February, and was put on at the 7pm, the same time that most areas of the country (but not London) showed Emmerdale Farm. In almost all parts of the country where the two soaps were going head-to-head Emmerdale farm was watched by more people. The BBC were forced to move their programme to 7.30pm!'

Now theres a surprise.

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I'm sure I posted that on another board a few weeks ago. It's not a direct copy of what I wrote but argues the same thing. Just a coincidence I think, as this rarely gets brought up.

To be honest ! Is this really worth talking about ! There are pro's and con's on both sides lets just leave the issue alone!

Oh I agree with that. It's not worth getting in a tizz over. :)

when the 2 soaps went against each other a few years ago when den framed phill ee wiped the floor with emmerdale but they did have a strong storyline whereas now the ee storylines are usually weak but emmerdales are getting stronger,can either soap improve without rehashing old storylines,i doubt it,and getting to a point where i think they should maybe call time on enders while their still up there,and create a new soap,that would really get us talking

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Originally Posted by callummc

when the 2 soaps went against each other a few years ago when den framed phill ee wiped the floor with emmerdale but they did have a strong storyline whereas now the ee storylines are usually weak but emmerdales are getting stronger,can either soap improve without rehashing old storylines,i doubt it,and getting to a point where i think they should maybe call time on enders while their still up there,and create a new soap,that would really get us talking

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Whats needs to happen is EE get a reality check and think hang on what have we done.

1) We spend time on make the public believe that Dirty Den was not dead to just kill him of over a (personal mistake) a year later

2) We made a joke of the legal system by allowing an escaped prison (Phil Mitchell) and a wanted crime (Grant Mitchell) just to walk back into the square as if nothing happened.

3) To kill two gangster figures within a year (Johnny Allen & Andy Hunter) for no good reason

4) To show a death, and not let two figures walk out without a proper death scene, such as Johnny Allen or Jake Moon, or even then buring Den's body!

5) They denied us the right to see the ultimate clash in Den Watts and Peggy Mitchell and also, the ultimate Mitchell's versus Andy Hunter!

6) People such as Sam Mitchell and Zoe Slater are not just forgotten because they where an accessory to Murder!

7) Why can't Pauline just be written out? Why does she have to die?

8) Sharon could not in the really world just transfer the deeds to The Queen Victoria like that!

9) How does Albert Square Market make any money, no one would travel to get Martin's Fruit and Veg! When can you say ever saw a fruit and veg stall other than in a central place where there are thousands of people. How can he make money ?

10) Why don't people have washing machines ? How could you let people such as Pauline and Dot was your underpants etc/... for all those years ?

11) If The Queen Vic was owned by a brewery, they would not just let people like The Mitchells or The Watts, take it over every other year, they would also decorate it, and update it.

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Originally Posted by Mr Humphries

Whats needs to happen is EE get a reality check and think hang on what have we done.

1) We spend time on make the public believe that Dirty Den was not dead to just kill him of over a (personal mistake) a year later

2) We made a joke of the legal system by allowing an escaped prison (Phil Mitchell) and a wanted crime (Grant Mitchell) just to walk back into the square as if nothing happened.

3) To kill two gangster figures within a year (Johnny Allen & Andy Hunter) for no good reason

4) To show a death, and not let two figures walk out without a proper death scene, such as Johnny Allen or Jake Moon, or even then buring Den's body!

5) They denied us the right to see the ultimate clash in Den Watts and Peggy Mitchell and also, the ultimate Mitchell's versus Andy Hunter!

6) People such as Sam Mitchell and Zoe Slater are not just forgotten because they where an accessory to Murder!

7) Why can't Pauline just be written out? Why does she have to die?

8) Sharon could not in the really world just transfer the deeds to The Queen Victoria like that!

9) How does Albert Square Market make any money, no one would travel to get Martin's Fruit and Veg! When can you say ever saw a fruit and veg stall other than in a central place where there are thousands of people. How can he make money ?

10) Why don't people have washing machines ? How could you let people such as Pauline and Dot was your underpants etc/... for all those years ?

11) If The Queen Vic was owned by a brewery, they would not just let people like The Mitchells or The Watts, take it over every other year, they would also decorate it, and update it.

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1. It was a huge mistake to bring him back. The storyline was totally unbleivable.

2. EE regularly makes a mockery of the legal system. Remember Barrys death and with the return of the beetroot we are expected to believe that a two bit gangster like him can bribe witnesses, policemen and the CPS

3. Killing off Johnny Allen was unforgivable. At least he used to be scary unlike the pantomime gangster that was Andy Pandy Hunter

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6 Yet another black hole in the scripting

7. Because she must have a Sensational and Explosive exit:rolleyes:

8. Walford is not the real world. In the real world not just anyone can own a pub

9. Pass

10. Another of life's mysteries. The amount of money they spend on Service Washes over the years would have bought twenty washing machines.

11. I thought The Queen Vic was a Free House:confused:

Very good and valid points Mr H.

IMO EE suffers from the fact that the writer is changed every few episodes so its bound to lose a bit of continuity. Each writers perception of the characters is different.

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Originally Posted by alan45

1. It was a huge mistake to bring him back. The storyline was totally unbleivable.

2. EE regularly makes a mockery of the legal system. Remember Barrys death and with the return of the beetroot we are expected to believe that a two bit gangster like him can bribe witnesses, policemen and the CPS

3. Killing off Johnny Allen was unforgivable. At least he used to be scary unlike the pantomime gangster that was Andy Pandy Hunter

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6 Yet another black hole in the scripting

7. Because she must have a Sensational and Explosive exit:rolleyes:

8. Walford is not the real world. In the real world not just anyone can own a pub

9. Pass

10. Another of life's mysteries. The amount of money they spend on Service Washes over the years would have bought twenty washing machines.

11. I thought The Queen Vic was a Free House:confused:

Very good and valid points Mr H.

IMO EE suffers from the fact that the writer is changed every few episodes so its bound to lose a bit of continuity. Each writers perception of the characters is different.

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11. Even if The Queen Vic was a Freehouse, they still would not have to run decisions pass a brewery, like the Rovers in Corrie, secondly, considering I own pubs and 2 of which are Freehouses, no one in the right mind would just sign over the deeds, you would be talking at least half a million for the Queen Vic if it was real, if not more.

2. I really can't understand how TV programmes are aloud to take the **ss out of the law like this ! It is a joke

well its happened again this week,after enders winning the christmas time head to head enders probably thought their luck was changing,but no this week emmerdale won in a head to head again

Yes that's correct, Eastenders lost to Emmerdale yet again last Thursday. Here are the ratings:

Emmerdale- 7.9m (36%)
Eastenders- 6.5m (29%)

Maybe its cos of thw who killed Tom king, but thats going very slowly

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Originally Posted by Abbie

Maybe its cos of thw who killed Tom king, but thats going very slowly

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More likely its because Emmerdale is better acted, better scripted and more enjoyable.

Maybe it is the same old story. Emmerdale started at 7, made sure that at 7.28 there was something going on and people stayed with Emmerdale and taped EastEnders. Emmerdale is not beating EastEnders and when all the viewing numbers are in, EastEnders will be well above Emmerdale. As usual.

i'm afraid to say that people videoing and the omnibus are taken into account,ee is getting worse year on year a nd emmerdale are improving year on year,and if the rumours are true about 2 of the best charectors leaving,well ee will end up losing out to emmerdale without even going head to head,then the bbc will swing the axe and put us all out of our misery

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Originally Posted by sarah21

Maybe it is the same old story. Emmerdale started at 7, made sure that at 7.28 there was something going on and people stayed with Emmerdale and taped EastEnders. Emmerdale is not beating EastEnders and when all the viewing numbers are in, EastEnders will be well above Emmerdale. As usual.

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The same old tired excuses come up all the time. Emmerdale beats EE in the head to heads because quite simply it is far superior to the tosh that is EE. If I was a EE fanatic I woukd watch it and tape Emmerdale. But as you said yourself Emmerdale had something going on which encouraged people to keep tuned to it whereas people couldnt give two flying figs for EE which they knew would just be the same old nonsense.

Accept reality/ Emmerdale will ALWATS beat EE because people emjoy it more. Its not really that difficult of a concept to grasp