Yes, I thought it was quite good, but it seemed like the producers were going for the oscar or something. I thought the symbolism and dreamy stuff was a bit overdone.
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Yes, I thought it was quite good, but it seemed like the producers were going for the oscar or something. I thought the symbolism and dreamy stuff was a bit overdone.
Soo does this mean this is the end of Jay now, or there some reason he desides to stay in the Square?
He did it again, I cried.. :( I hope he dosen't leave and he sticks around for a bit!
Jay was more than excellent. I'm sorry that he is going. maybe he can return in a few years time as a successful entrepreneur or something. But please with the same actor.
He gave Dawn a piece of his mind and right so. :thumbsup: Garry should come of his pink cloud and see what a horrible person Dawn is. Felt sorry for her about how her past was. But get over it girl. Most of us had to go without designer stuff. And yes sometimes hand me downs.
Honey gave Billy the evil eye I think. Poor Billy it is never going smoothly for him.
Be honest Bry - if you were in the same situation, managed to get his son out, went back in with good intentions to see what you did - would you honestly go in there, all guns blazing, knowing that you wouldn't have a chance against the three of them?? Would you still give it a go anyway, knowing that your wife and young family were sat at home waiting for you? I know I wouldn't thats for sure, and I really felt for Billy. I certainly didn't see him as a coward thats for sure. I'm sure he had the best intentions when he went back in there, but at seeing Jase in the state that he was in, it made him realise he'd have no chance against them.
I know that I wouldn't stand a chance against people like that as I'm not a violent person, so I wouldn't even attempt to go in there. I'd call the police or go and get some strong friends like Phil, Minty, Max etc to go in and storm the place. By going in, and not doing anything, he really did put Jase's life in more danger, as it took longer for police to get there.
but when billy left the flat, jase wasnt a beaten up mess on the floor, and seeing as billy isnt the brightest of people, he wasnt to know that jase wasnt going to be how he left him. i do agree billy should have called the police, but in soaps no one ever seems to do that. i dont see how going to get phil etc would have helped, i dont think theyd have stood a chance either, unless they found knives etc to use as well. and i really dont think max would have stood a chance lol!
I don't think he did put Jase's life in more danger at all. As we've already said, Billy went in there with best intentions of trying to help - but panicked! As anyone would had they seen someone on the floor like that. Some may have run out the door, others would have done just like Billy did and locked himself away to try and hide from what was happening. Fear does different things to different people and if you had a choice between your family and your own life, I know which I'd choose, even if prior to the scene I saw, I thought I might stand a chance of getting them away. He left his mobile in the van with Jay, so couldn't get that, without letting Jay free to charge back in the flat and put himself in danger and IMO, by the time he'd rounded up the cavalry, it would still have been too late anyways.
Lets face it though, if I phoned the police and said that I'd just witnessed someone being kicked and beaten by a few thugs - would they really send out the armed response unit?? They wouldn't here, I know that much.
Just my thoughts though.
Absolutely 100% agree with everything you said there, Jojo.
billy was right for once - he did want to help but he knew he had no chance and at least he got jay out of there. Why go in there against 3 thugs jase lying bleeding to his death not able to help, it would only result in leaving 3 children without a dad instead of 1. thats who billy would have been thinking of - honey, janet and william
wow all those jase episodes were really sad!! anyway did anyone notice terry when the police turned up? he lay next to jase smirking with his arms crossed like he was a dead person- that really freaked me out!! i wonder what he was doing???
Yes, I saw that. Also, he wanted to get arrested. When his mates suggested they run, he refused. Something to do with seeing Jase as the son he never had, maybe?
that was a very creepy episode where Terry laid down with the dying Jase,, I am still trying to figure that one out,,
I thought all the scenes with Jay and Jase in the dream scenes were good,,
I really felt bad for Jay,, he was more willing to go into care than stay with SELFISH MATERIALISTIC DAWN,,
I thought it was interesting she showed up with wet hair and the baby in a pram ( isnt Summer a bit too old for a PRAM ????)
Garry really was trying to comfort her( or at least I thought he was,,:searchme: )
Billy is such a bad liar, he lies and lies and Honey catches him at it each time, its only a matter of time before she has HAD IT with him and packs up the kids and leaves him for good, of course he will whine and whine and blame every one else but himself,,:rolleyes:
Looking forward to tonight and Tuesdays episodes, cos those will be the last ones I will see until I get back from the USA :p
i dont know if its the soap summer slump, but i'm going off Eastenders at the moment
the whole Jase thing seemed like cheap rushed ploy for a bit of attention, but it didn't really pull off if you ask me
by the looks of what's on the cards in the next few weeks - Stacey/Callumn, Max/Jack/Tanya - i don't think i'm going to bother tuning in!
Shame, as Eastenders was starting to get good again
garry was trying to comfort her.....at the start, then he started going on about how shes a nice girl and she jase should never have got her involved in crime and stabbings etc - he wouldnt have done it to her, he didnt waste much time did he
Isnt summer only 1 (thats not too old for a pram). It was her first birthday when mad may turned up again
the only thing i could think of would be that if he was lying next to Jase he could pretend that they were trying to beat him up as well, so he could get off. the big bosses of organised crime gangs always get people like Jase to beat others up for them so that there's no criminal trail leading back to them- remember how long Johnny Allen got away with it.
oh god, that little turd Abbie is back on the scene! can't Terry and the firm come and stab her too!?
how brown did Tanya and Jack look? haha!
That Max is a slimeball, why does he have to interefere, he should accept that he cheated, so Tanya has every right to move on to someone else, if it's his brother though titty, if he cared that much about Tanya he wouldn't have cheated on her in the first place! He has no moral high ground in the argument at all!
Ok Summer got her bunny rabbit, and Dawn gets some beans on toast,, and if shes good she will get a fried egg on top,, ok Garry really is trying to be nice to her, and of course she is still sitting on her HIGH HORSE,,
Honey looks as if she has made up her mind( AFTER Billy had mailed off the money to a childrens charity and he says LETS GO HOME ?? did u all see her face ?? )
I still do not like Suzy,,she really is a BIxxH...
Max asking Phil if he knew any one who would get rid of Jack,, gawd,, Max needs to accept the fact that he was the one who caused the break up between him and Tanya in the first place,, I am thinking now,, Tanya should have left him buried a bit longer...:angry:
Ok who has the gold bar ????????
i missed last night i didnt think it was on for some reason??
Shirley has the gold bar (unless i missed something)
We saw Shirley with the gold bar on Friday.
So Jack, Tanya and the kids are finally back from the holiday. Nice to see Jack really cares about his dad no mention what so ever.
And Ronnie is back in black leather (is she working for MI6 or what she takes off so often)
There was still some chemistry between her and Jack
I cant stand Suzy (which is a shame since i like Maggie O Neill)
Overall a boring episode
Is Jay in care now?
I cant feel sorry for Dawn at all and Kara's acting is terrible
what did Dawn expect?? I mean really ???:wall:
I can't stand Billy, but even so I had to feel sorry for him tonight! Honey's reaction was a bit harsh and rushed! Silly woman!
I turned the sound off half way through, once I knew what was gonna happen. Its just so sad, I couldnt bear to watch :(
I agree Bryan, not happy with that..
I don't like that new girl at Stacey's stall *name's slipped my mind*.. Her acting looks so fake.. I thought it was her character at first but it's just really out of place..
I think the new girl just seems really shy and quiet
do you think she will turn out to be ronnies daughter or are we reading in to the fact she is blonde, similar looking and about the right age a bit too much?