Current Episode Discussion - August to Oct

I really enjoyed last nights espisode i thought peggy was an bit OTT in the square doing her little speech

I loved stacey her one liners and her hat great lmao

Loved the interaction between dennis and johnny i loved the way dennis decided too keep his wife sweet and still be dective at the same time over all loved the eppy :cheer: :cheer:

What I don't get is why Ruby believed Peggy. I don't think anyone else did. Anyway why should a man be judged by his past? I mean now Johnny's a perfectly ordnary guy - club manager complete with girlfriend and daughter, whatever his gangster life he certainly loves his family ulike Den. Does it actuallty matter about Andy or any of the things he did in the past - people move on. Anyway - I notice that Peggy was ll out to congraulate Sam for killing Den at first. I don't think she makes such a fuss about Phil and Grant being gangsters either.

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Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes

Anyway - I notice that Peggy was ll out to congraulate Sam for killing Den at first. I don't think she makes such a fuss about Phil and Grant being gangsters either.

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yeah but they didn't do the EVIL thing of taking the pub AWAY from HER - it's a :nono:

Can someone tell me how long the Queen Vic belonged to the Mitchells and how long it belonged to the Watts?

I love Watts but I can't stand the Mitchells - silly things.

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Originally Posted by parkerman

Can someone tell me how long the Queen Vic belonged to the Mitchells and how long it belonged to the Watts?

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1985 - Watts.
1988 - Pat and Frank.
1989-1991 - Eddie Royle.
1991-Mitchells.

Then swapped between Watts and Mitchells between 2001 to present.

If Pat and Frank had it at one time surely Johnny can have it now. Better than those dum Mitchells.

Another poor episode tonight, although slightly better than last night.

Only positives for me were Ian and Jane, Pat, and Johnny squaring upto Peggy. The rest was poor once again, such as the Millers and Juley, Peggy, etc.

4.5 / 10.

Eddie royle wasnt he stabbed by dot son nick in the pub or the square and he died didnt if my memory serves me correctly :hmm:

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Originally Posted by Richie_lecturer

1985 - Watts.
1988 - Pat and Frank.
1989-1991 - Eddie Royle.
1991-Mitchells.

Then swapped between Watts and Mitchells between 2001 to present.

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Thanks Richie.

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Originally Posted by angelblue

Eddie royle wasnt he stabbed by dot son nick in the pub or the square and he died didnt if my memory serves me correctly :hmm:

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That is correct. Murdered by the wonderful Nick Cotton in 1991. :)

Pauline and Joe are so cute, :wub: I can't help but smile when they have a scene together. I like Joe -- I hope he doesn't turn out to have some deep, dark secret or anything like that, just a nice normal guy.

Martin should just kill Naomi. And Sonia. And then he should go out with Dawn. Sonia is such a selfish bitch, I hate her. Who the hell gets annoyed when their husband wants to spend some time with them?

Johnny was scary in the last scene -- I felt sorry for Peggy, :eek: Never thought that would happen. Ruby kind of annoyed me though -- I usually like her, but she irked me today, don't know why. I don't think she did anything wrong, I just didn't like her scenes.

Good episode I thought.

Okish episode, I would not call it poor, in my opinion, but not great.

Good points:

- Joe and Pauline - I love them. Noticed Joe mentioned his daughters, I guess that might be a clue to them turning up soon?
- Pat and Peggy, especially Pat who is a star. :)
- Peggy being scared at the end of the episode. This may sound evil but, HAHAHAHAHA :cheer: :lol:
- Ian and Jane. Love them also. A nice normal EastEnders couple.
- Johnny. I really like him but he's leaving so I can't get too attached. :mad:

Bad points:

- Juley, Mickey and the stall. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I like Dawn, Mickey is fine in small doses but get rid of Juley, he's so annoying. :angry:
- Martin and Sonia. What happened to Sonia? Why is she being such a cow to Martin?

i enjoyed tonights episode

Tonights episode was boring except for the last bit with Jonny and Peggy. Too many of the irritating characters that I dont like.And hardly any characters I do like. Juley,Mickey,Jane,Tina,Ruby,sonia + martin,pauline,joe Too much of them for my liking:( It wasnt that well written either, give it 3/10 I much preferred Last nights episode.

all i can say is welcome back the "real" jonny allen

Loved the look at the end he means business :)

Anyone else really liking Johnny? He works so much better as a gangster. Argh, it is so annoying he is leaving. I don't mind gangsters in EastEnders as long as they are believable and not rubbish like Andy 'the rubbish gangster' Hunter who was about as scary as the stuffed dolphin that is sitting on my bed.

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Originally Posted by Florijo

Okish episode, I would not call it poor, in my opinion, but not great.

Good points:

- Joe and Pauline - I love them. Noticed Joe mentioned his daughters, I guess that might be a clue to them turning up soon?
- Pat and Peggy, especially Pat who is a star. :)
- Peggy being scared at the end of the episode. This may sound evil but, HAHAHAHAHA :cheer: :lol:
- Ian and Jane. Love them also. A nice normal EastEnders couple.
- Johnny. I really like him but he's leaving so I can't get too attached. :mad:

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- Juley, Mickey and the stall. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I like Dawn, Mickey is fine in small doses but get rid of Juley, he's so annoying. :angry:
- Martin and Sonia. What happened to Sonia? Why is she being such a cow to Martin?

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Oh my god!! That's 100% exactly what I thought :cheer: Yay!! :D

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Originally Posted by Florijo

Anyone else really liking Johnny? He works so much better as a gangster. Argh, it is so annoying he is leaving. I don't mind gangsters in EastEnders as long as they are believable and not rubbish like Andy 'the rubbish gangster' Hunter who was about as scary as the stuffed dolphin that is sitting on my bed.

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Lmao I agree with Andy and the stuffed doplhins :rotfl :rotfl: :rotfl:

I like Johnny too!! He's a great type of ganster :cheer:

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Originally Posted by Richie_lecturer

That is correct. Murdered by the wonderful Nick Cotton in 1991. :)

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Now that was a scary guy not like the Pseudo-gangsters that roam the square today

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Originally Posted by bondboffin

all i can say is welcome back the "real" jonny allen

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Exactly, we need the proper Johnny Allen back and tonight was just the start, Peggy is going to bring the worst out in him and so are the Mitchell brothers. Excellent.

going to get better now

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Originally Posted by Richie_lecturer

Absolutely. It wouldn't surprise me if all that support for Johnny at the start of the episode drains to Peggy at 8:02 tonight. I predicted Ruby entering through the Vic doors at the start of that scene. :rolleyes:

Sorry folks, for me it was another DREADFUL episode last night. James Payne is almost as bad as Rob Gittens when it comes to writing for EastEnders. That line from that bloke - "you trod on my face, just cos I spelt your name wrong" - ffs what a STUPID line. Wow I was put out of work cos you stamped on my nose, give over. Pathetic. Why did the guy have to come over to the Vic as well. He could've squared up to Johnny in Scarlet's and the reaction would have been the same. Pathetic again.

Nana Moon and Alfie, as usual excruciatingly bad and painful. Say no more. The sooner this gang go the better.

Sharon and Dennis an absolute snorefest for me I'm afraid. Chrissie and Jake as plain and irritating as usual. They have zero chemistry. I don't like

Doberman's acting much but it's still far better than Joel Beckett. He was good in the Office. Why is he so bad in EE?

Peggy was so awful tonight. Doing a John Major parading on a soapbox in the Market was absolutely dire.

Only highlight for me was Pat behind the mock bar, and a bit of Dot. There are only a precious few good characters left in EE now, and these are two them. My god what would EE be like without those two?

3.5-4
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If it doesn't improve soon, the return of the Mitchells will either fall flat on its face, or it will only act as smoke and mirrors to the underlying problems this soap faces. Hopefully tonight's ep will be better, but last night's was just painful to watch for me in almost every sense of the word.

Believe me folks it is slowly improving, but I honestly don't believe it is out of the woods by any means. :(

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An excellent and honest critique of how Britains once favourite soap has slipped into the depths of mediocrity. Three producers within the year and save for the occasional glimmers of hope we are left with the same aimless plots. Every few weeks were are promised improvements which fail to materialise. The return of the poison dwarf was supposed to be yet another turnaround for EE. Sadly this did not live up to the over-hype. Similarly the promised return of Mah Boys will do nothing other than give a temporary boost in the ratings. EE needs to use the money to employ decent scriptwriters and get this soap back on track

Thank you very much. :bow:

loved the stacey and ruby and johnny and ruby scenes, love how ruby is discovering what her father is, what a stupid story johnny made up, he's so unbeliable.
liked the stall scenes, dawn was so cute with the little boy! :wub:
liked how johnny has come back as his 'gangster' self, the good johnny allen lasted long didn't it - about 5 - 6 months?

I thought last nights episode was dire. I'm actually looking forward to Phil and Grant coming back to liven things up and I couldn't stand either of them before!

i cant wait for them to come back has i miss them both so much

I have to agree with Richie. A few episodes ago it did look as though Eastenders might be digging its way out of its self-imposed mire, but the arrival of Peggy has shoved it right back down the hole. I just find her so irritating that I now find it difficult to watch. As for Alfie and Nana - please!!!

As Richie says the best characters in it these days are the old 'uns like Dot, Pat, Jim, Patrick, Pauline etc. The only "younger" character I have any time for is Dennis. He's so broody! Oh, and I also find Ian amusing.

Edit: P.s. How could I forget Stacey? She's brilliant.

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Originally Posted by Joanne

I thought last nights episode was dire

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i thought it was rather boring. i looked at the clock and it said 10 past it felt like it should be nearly over. then i was like it must be over now and it as only 15 past! lol. it dragged on a bit. i must say peggy is to blame for it. God she does my head in . her return hasnt done nothing for me! if the return of phil and grant will be this bad then i think i will have to start taping it and fast forwarding those bits. lol

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Originally Posted by feelingyellow

liked how johnny has come back as his 'gangster' self, the good johnny allen lasted long didn't it - about 5 - 6 months?

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It was OK but it's too little too late for me anyway (I know he's going). Johnny showed great promise at the beginning, bumping off the pantomine gangster over the flyover, but has since been ruined by the move towards his domestic side. Nice one EE, hang your heads in shame. A missed opportunity imo.

Afraid I missed last night's episode! :(

last nights episode was ok not the best but it certainly wasnt rubbish

I've just found a quote in today's Daily Mirror "We Love Telly" magazine which sums up my view of the current Johnny/Ruby story line:

"For a soap that has shown such improvement recently, this story is so disappointingly inept, badly written and littered with so many cockney cliches that you half expect Dick Van Dyke to dance over the rooftops singing Chim Chim Cher-ee..."

Mind you, I wish the writer would say what he thinks and stop beating about the bush!

i missed last nights could someine fill me in??

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Originally Posted by debs

i missed last nights could someine fill me in??

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the website gives a lot of info - > http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/east...20051014.shtml < - hope this helps :)

Why don't you watch todays ominbus?

think ill be watching that:)

Missed friday's episode as well, so I'm defenitially watching th omnibus. Cannot do without a single episode.


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The real Ross!!

Wow, quite a few of us missed it lol