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I think he could because of the hurt and betrayal he will be feeling. The fact that the mother left both him and Danny at the mercy of an abusive father, family betrayal, affair with Johnny etc.. In Jake's eyes it could well be a case of that "line" has been crossed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackKat
When he first came into it he was slightly harder, and then as they stayed longer I think we got to see more of the real Jakey where he was more open. I think while he's been away he'll have reverted back to type, back to doing dodgy things. I think it took a lot for him to open up to Chrissie, and explain about his dad and about Danny, and I don't think he'd ever done that before. So even though it wasn't opening up that hurt him, he still got hurt, so I think he'll be closed off. *hugs Jakey* :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Babe14
It'd be interesting to see how Jake would react -- would he turn his back but take it in his stride, or just hit rockbottom. I think this could also be the catalyst for his own big reaction to his childhood -- Danny's had his, I want to see Jake's (although obviously not on the same scale that Danny's was.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Babe14
Although Jakey never really told Chrissie what the dad did, did he? They were running it with Danny shouting off in the club about what the father actually did..I agree that Jakey would have had to do ddogy again to survive I love the "Bad" boy streak in him and hope it stays.I think Jakey was beginning to put some of that faith in Chrissie that he said he didn't put in anyone..
I wondered at the time whether they trying to vaguely suggest other abuse. When Jake was talking it doesn't take a huge leap to get to physical abuse. Not that that's a good thing, but at the same time it was obvious what Chrissie thought, so why didn't Jake confirm that's what it was. Could Danny's line of "And it used to take him 10 minutes to get that belt off," have another meaning? *hopes not*Quote:
Originally Posted by Babe14
ETA: I'm onto the painful last 5 posts.
No I don't think they were sexually abused only physically beaten. What I think was meant when Danny said it used to take him 10 mins to get that belt off was that the father used to beat them with it. I suppose the father could of mentally abused the boys too by telling them everything was there fault and they were no good..
I did think that's what Danny meant. Just found it odd that Jake was willing to tell Chrissie about the foster homes, about always being sent back to his dad and about the way Danny would depend on him, but deliberately avoiding the question of what exactly the dad did, when it was obvious Chrissie was thinking physical abuse anyway. I got the impression that there was something Jake was going to keep to himself no matter what -- whether it was just very extreme physical abuse, mental abuse, or the longshot of sexual abuse. :searchme:Quote:
Originally Posted by Babe14
or maybe he felt that he wasn't ready to talk about it yet or there could be more to it. Or did Jakey end up standing up to the dad and things turned nasty..is he still alive?
That would be interesting...maybe he has a little more in common with Chrissie than everyone thinks. Or maybe Danny did something. Another fire perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by Babe14
Danny has set fire to things in the past. Remember when they were talking and Jakey said about whne they were ten all having a laugh and Danny went and torched a car?
I sort of like the idea of Jakey turning on his dad after he severley beat them both and him accidentally killing his dad..but there again I don't know. Then I could actually see Jakey losing it if he was pushed far enough..