True Kim, but having said that, there was Dot that saw the whole thing, and if you noticed, when Dot rang the police, and the phone fell on the bed, it didn't hang up, so more than likely all would have been heard.
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True Kim, but having said that, there was Dot that saw the whole thing, and if you noticed, when Dot rang the police, and the phone fell on the bed, it didn't hang up, so more than likely all would have been heard.
People still get arrested for doing things in self defence, and it wasn't even Dot that pushed Joe, so I think he could still get done for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyLea
True, but in terms of plot etc.. I think that if he was going away, the phone would have turned off, as it's kind of like it was shown on purpose, so that he get's off.. if I make any sense.
Also, they would have heard Joe confess to murder, Dot being 'attacked' so to speak, and someone (Jim) rescueing/helping her. So I think he'd have a pretty good case..
I agree that everything probably would have been recorded on police voicemail. Also Dot and Jim can tell the police about Joe's cpfession and half the square I am sure heard the shouting and then saw Jim rescuing Dot and Joe smashing out ofthe window but I can't say I have much sympathy for Pauline. She was so spiteful, so provocative. No wonder Arthur had an affair with Mrs Hewitt - obviously that was wrong but I can understand given that he was married to someone like Pauline.
I suppose its manslaughter as I don't think he intended to kill her nd fair enough she was alive when he left the house but he had a perfect opportunity to confess when Martin told him Pauline had died and when Sonia admitted and when the post mortem results came out and he didn't. he just behaved like a coward and then said "I'm not a bad man" - maybe not but he still did what he did and needed to pay for it.
I never thought the romour would ever go ahead, so quite a shock when he fell out the window. I've decided not to read spoilers anymore, it makes watching it A BIT more intresting.
However the episode was bland. All i like in Eastenders at the moment is Shirley Wicks and Pat Evans, which isn't enough reason to keep watching. These days I dont even watch it in the week apart from Fridays, and wouldn't loose sleep if i missed the omnibus of a sunday.
Oh the irony - Pauline smacked Arthur over the head with a frying pan, and it was that very same frying pan that finished the tough old battleaxe off once and for all :D
One thing that has still not been explained is why Phil was so insistent that Sonia was innocent. I assumed he'd seen the real criminal enter or leave the house or something.
If he did, he'd have been giving Sonia an alibi, not a bent lawyer. I don't really know why he'd want to help her at all - hating the Fowlers because of Martin killing Jamie and Mark bringing his child up as his own is hardly that much of a reason considering Phil has already sorted that with his fists - Sonia married the guy responsible for Jamie's death, accused Phil of killing Lisa and had the police involved and helped Lisa to get away from him with Louise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes
well we will have to wait untill monday to see what happens next,i have a feeling that shirley told pat kevins secret because when they were in the vic talking/bickering together, later on when she came out she looked totallly gobsmacked and shocked, so it should be good
I read that in The Tv Mag and Soaplife.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaza
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I liked the bit where he fell out the window, thought it was quite funny lol. Then the way Jim popped his head out at the end :rotfl:
Yeah, two comedy deaths in a month, way to go EastEnders lol. Pauline's just looked as if she was drunk. It must be some pretty rubbish windows in that place; Jim wouldn't have pushed him that hard, surley?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_2k7
Why bother looking? 1) It drops him straight in it and 2) You'd have to be really stupid to think he's gone up rather than down :rotfl: Come on, Jim, that's for Rebecca to believe. :lol:
Even Garry Bushell wonders about Jim
MOVE over Ricky Hatton, there's a new champ in town: Walford pensioner Grandad Jim.
Don't scoff. Old Jim shoved Joe with such force on EastEnders that he was propelled through a closed window, did a 90-degree turn and then shot sideways over the wall, and the pavement, to plummet to his death on a market stall.
That's what I call symbolics. With a silent "sym".
And the whole window fell out as well, which was ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by KimYeah, two comedy deaths in a month, way to go EastEnders lol. Pauline's just looked as if she was drunk. It must be some pretty rubbish windows in that place; Jim wouldn't have pushed him that hard, surley?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_2k7
And the most damage Joe would get from falling from that high up is a broken ankle or broken wrist, especially as the roof broke his fall.
Please can anyone give me a detailed description of Fridays episode on the episode guide, I taped omnibus but discovered that they showed Fridays epi on bbc 2, I'm so annoyed!!!
Jodi should post it later today DG... It was a cracking episode.. I thought it was brilliant, I was glued to the tv.. I have to say, what let it down was the Deano/Gus bit.. Pat/Dot/Jim/Martin/Sonia/Joe.. all excellent actorsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dutchgirl
Dying to know Kevin secret, it must be a biggun for Pat to be that shocked and I hope the police heard what joe was saying.. the phone was left on the bed calling 999 so with any luck and Sonia can be free
That should be my luck, a cracking episode and I missed it.:angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by SiobhanJodi should post it later today DG... It was a cracking episode.. I thought it was brilliant, I was glued to the tv.. I have to say, what let it down was the Deano/Gus bit.. Pat/Dot/Jim/Martin/Sonia/Joe.. all excellent actorsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dutchgirl
Can anyone tell me what happened in the very beginning of lastnights episode i missed some of it because Corrie ran over and it felt like i had missed something
I think alot of people thought they had missed something, i know i had, i even checked to make sure i hadn't missed an episode.
nothing much vicky.. just Martin went to cremate his mother.. everybody thought they missed something cause dot/jim wasn't at the police station but as I said in another thread, it was monday and Joe fell out of the window on Friday or possible thursday nightQuote:
Originally Posted by Xx-Vicky-xX
I can't believe Kevin's secret but IMO.. a dad is someone who is there for you no matter what.. I think Kevin is more of a dad to those kids then the real father would ever be... I think it was great of Kevin to keep the kids when his wife walked out and raise them even when he wasn't the biological father
Thanks :D i dunno how much i missed the first bit i saw was Martin at Ian's and Ian telling him Rebecca needs both Martin and Sonia not just SoniaQuote:
Originally Posted by Siobhannothing much vicky.. just Martin went to cremate his mother.. everybody thought they missed something cause dot/jim wasn't at the police station but as I said in another thread, it was monday and Joe fell out of the window on Friday or possible thursday nightQuote:
Originally Posted by Xx-Vicky-xX
I can't believe Kevin's secret but IMO.. a dad is someone who is there for you no matter what.. I think Kevin is more of a dad to those kids then the real father would ever be... I think it was great of Kevin to keep the kids when his wife walked out and raise them even when he wasn't the biological father
Did a view this correctly: I swear the front of the Walford Gazette said Joe's death was an accident. Now he died Friday night, and this was Monday morning. Now post-mortems/inquests are not held over the weekend. How did they know it was an accident?
I missed Joes death completly. Thought that last night was funny when Paulines will was read. I knew there would be something about him and sonia, still getting to them from beyond the grave.
I know what you mean siobhan Kevin is a dad to Carly and Deano, just not biologically, i had a feeling that was what his secret was.
cause they heard it on the phone.. I don't know.. the press can leak stuff before an inquest is heard.. Martin declared his mum dead without touching her!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Richie_lecturer
I have to say, I actually rather enjoyed last nights episode. Two surpises in one episode. Spiteful of Pauline, wonder what will happen now!
Yeah, I think that's amazing of Kevin, especially as the kids were really young when she left, he could have just given them away or something, but no, kept them all as his own, raised them, they should be absolutly grateful for this!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Siobhan
Anyone think Shirley is witholding information with regard to Deano's dad? I reckon it could be that mate of Kevin's that Carly was flirting with in Dorset.
Yeah, could be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
I cannot believe Kevin forgave Shirley for having 2 kids with 2 different men. He gave her another chance both times?! :confused:
The bonding between Kevin and Deano at the end, was so sweet.
I know that is sooooo confusing I mean form what we have seen he doesnt seem like he would ever forgive herQuote:
Originally Posted by littlemoYeah, could be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
I cannot believe Kevin forgave Shirley for having 2 kids with 2 different men. He gave her another chance both times?! :confused:
The bonding between Kevin and Deano at the end, was so sweet.
I didnt see the first bit so didnt see how Kev broke the news to them or explained how he wasnt their father, but that did strike me as odd that he had stuck around knowing he wasnt the father of both Deanoooo and Carly...:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemo
What a little sod Ben is!!!:lol:
I know, Ben is sooooo evil, I reckon he gets it form philQuote:
Originally Posted by pinkbananaI didnt see the first bit so didnt see how Kev broke the news to them or explained how he wasnt their father, but that did strike me as odd that he had stuck around knowing he wasnt the father of both Deanoooo and Carly...:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemo
What a little sod Ben is!!!:lol:
The first bit was really confusing! It's like couldn't they come up with a better explanation than that?! And then for them to get back to playing happy families again at the end. Wow!
Ben is a sod but Stella does annoy me! I don't think she's a very nice person.
I missed the begining what was the explanationQuote:
Originally Posted by littlemo
I have to say that tonights episode was pretty good, ( Ok not all of it but most of it was .. but thats just me )
I am honestly SICK OF DAWN shes soooo stupid.
I find Stella very very annoying, I can not believe she is a lawyer, Ben is a little punk, I do not like that sniveling lil brat...he is gonna get caught one day.. Wonder if we have seen the last of Stella??? Abi was no help...
Ian deserves a SLAP( again )for being such a greedy *******( did any one hear the cash register go off when he found out the HOUSE was his if Martin went off with Sonia ??? ) No happy families for Martin, Sonia and Rebecca :-(
Now the Wicks...I found it interesting how they handled this,, I thought Kevin did a good job controling Deano and the situation, it could have ended differently. I hope that after the inital shock wears off,, the kids will realize that kevin really was the only daddy they ever had..Since the deep dark secret is out, I wonder what Shirley will do now:hmm: since she does not have any more HOLDS over Kev.:searchme:
Not sure how I would have reacted if my mom told me she got drunk 5 times and all of us kids had different daddies :wall:
Yes, it will probably be something stupid like that. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Mass case of overacting from Deano and Carly tonight. :thumbsdow
Acting from Kevin was cringeworthy. :thumbsdow Only Shirley saved face.
BabyGate drags on. :thumbsdow
Fowler misery coming to an end.
Two episodes to go....
I loved how Kevin calmed Deano down.. he is right.. he was there for them and he is their Dad.. maybe not the father!! So what if they all have different dads, they all have the same mum so it makes them all brothers/sister. I think Deano just over reacted cause he was close to Jimbo and he realises that they are not proper brothers... I wouldn't care. both my kids have different dads and in my eyes and everyone esles, they are brother and sister.
It is Shirley that is at fault here, she had 2 one night stands, can't remember the fathers so why are the kids mad at Kevin and not her??? They are still just mad at her for walking out, not for this big confession..
Sonia and Martin have called it a day.. that is sad. I was hoping they would leave together
Omg talk about overacting from Deano and Carly i wish i could put my hand in through the tv and smacked them both. Ok Kevin isn't their dad but they should be glad he stuck by them when their mother left he didn't do anything wrong actually he is a saint to stay around after his wife cheats and gets pregnant twice. I am so tried of the Martin/Sonia storyline already i'm glad they are leaving either together or separately. So little evil Damian i mean Ben strikes again i hope he caught out soon.
If I was Stella, I would chuck Ben in that hot oven and glue the oven door. The Milkybar Kid melts like white chocolate in the heat. :cool:
Sonia and Martin:
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He is just an evil little child... He is just so smug about everything.. I didn't think I could dislike a child but he is definitely one I would. Stella was just trying to get along with him.. He is just a jealous git.. Stella should just not come back (unless it is to fry the little fecker)Quote:
Originally Posted by Richie_lecturer
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Originally Posted by Richie_lecturer
I think she needs to do like Jim and throw him out the window