Martin Fowler

Another moving episode last night, incredible! I loved the way Martin warmed to Rebecca (his daughter), I read in a magazine that Martin finally saw his child as a 'little lady' (I think that's what James said). Last time Martin saw his daughter was when she was a baby, now 3 years later, there's a 4 year old girl staring back at him. She's walking and talking, it must be an incredible feeling, especially seeing she looks so much like him. I liked the way the director had Rebecca staring up at Martin all the time, with her long eyelashes (like Sonia said), and I think for the first time, he really saw himself in her. Martin couldn't get enough of her.

I genuinely thought too that the child actress playing Rebecca looked like Sonia and Martin. I loved seeing some of Martin's feelings coming out, I really felt for him, as well as Sonia.

I know Rebecca doesn't know about Martin and Sonia being their real parents, but it seems she has taken to them. I thought that picture thing was good, her each giving them a picture. I bet that's going to be treasured forever. And when Martin kissed Rebecca before he left, that was adorable.

I actually felt like I was going to cry when Martin and Sonia left the house, they were in tears, and they were just looking at their daughter with some stranger (to them, Martin anyway), and they just had to walk away. Excellent storyline!

I know it was so adorable the way Rebecca looked up at Martin with her big dark eyes and how he knelt down to say goodbye and she kissed him, it was nearly too much for me ! I dread to think what Pauline will do, I can't believe Dot tells her !

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Originally Posted by Ruby21

I can't believe Dot tells her !

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well you know what dots like! she likes a good gossip about things! probably forgets she not meant to say anything until its too late!

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Originally Posted by .:SpIcYsPy:.

Who was the father of Chloe? Jamie/Martin? I forgot. I really do hope that Sonia wins Chloe. I cant wait for this to happen, same week as Tina and Rubys arrival I think! Everythings going up a bit I guess this month!

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Martin was or should i say is the father of chloe / rachel. they had a one night fling way back

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Originally Posted by geordie

Martin was or should i say is the father of chloe / rachel. they had a one night fling way back

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Chloe/Rebecca is Martin's daughter yes. I love this storyline it's great how they have brought something from way back and made it significant too current episodes, very gripping stuff!

I can't believe that Dot tells Pauline about Chloe, after Dot was talking tonight about being worried that Jim was going to tell her the truth. Dot agreed it's for the best, keeping Pauline out of it, so why does she have to go and rake everything up. Because it makes the storyline more dramatic!

It was nice tonight listening to Dot and Jim talking about their grandaughter. I can understand why they discouraged Sonia from continuing her relationship with Rebecca, but we can know see that it wasn't as cut and dry as some people thought. I didn't realise Dot and Jim had all those feelings and thoughts about her, Jim talked about what she looked like, and they were both excited about being a great-grandfather (I know Jim's got Liam, but Rebecca's his first great grandaughter) & step great grandmother (Dot). Although she's been adopted, it's clear they still think about her.

I can see that Rebecca would be very well taken care of if she went back with Martin and Sonia. She'd have Pauline, Jim and Dot fussing over her. Dot and Jim are very sweet I can imagine them with her. I think they'd all be very happy together.

It was interesting when the scene ended with Jim and Dot, they panned out and Dot was talking about them both being all alone in the house. I know it's probably something to do with their idea to move out, but it also got me thinking about Rebecca. That house used to be so noisy with all the Jacksons living there, it's definetely missing a child around the place. And also my idea that Martin and Sonia could move in if Jim and Dot moved out, it would be nice to start another generation of family, the Fowler-Jacksons.

Saw Sonia tonight in EE a very small clip, but we saw Sonia find out about Jim and Dot's idea to move, and Sonia not feeling happy about it. I can see why Sonia wouldn't relish the idea, she is losing everyone she cares about, she has just said goodbye again to her daughter, and now her grandad the only link to her family she has in the square is thinking of leaving too.

Of course I know Dot and Jim won't be going far if at all but Sonia is bound to feel rather neglected. All she'll have to turn too eventually is Pauline (other than Martin), what an idea.

According to someone on Digital Spy, it is in today's TV Times that Martin beds Dawn at Christmas. This will be the final nail in the coffin of Sonia and Martin's already shaky marriage.

Is this after he finds out about sonia kissing naomi???

omg! martin and dawn i didnt think martin would do that again to sonia unless sonia and martin split up before hand

Well if this is true than i would not be shocked

If it's true, I hope Martin really does want his marriage to be over otherwise he is going to be a very sorry boy.

Let's see Dawn coping with the mother-in-law from hell :p

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Originally Posted by Siobhan

Is this after he finds out about sonia kissing naomi???

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I think so, if this is true. I thought that Martin and Sonia become closer after getting Rebecca/Chloe back following the death of her gran, Margaret.

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Originally Posted by Kim131

I think so, if this is true. I thought that Martin and Sonia become closer after getting Rebecca/Chloe back following the death of her gran, Margaret.

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No.. think this drove them apart more as they couldn't see eye to eye on the issue and then along came naomi

does anyone know what he does when she kisses naomi?

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Originally Posted by Jada-GDR

does anyone know what he does when she kisses naomi?

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he probably get excited and joins in :lol:

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Originally Posted by crazygirl

he probably get excited and joins in :lol:

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:rotfl: but i doubt it.. i dont' think he likes her.. does he even find out?

Sonia and Naomi is in the next few weeks - it's in the spoilers already out.

Martin finds out. He confonts her in the Vic and demands to know if she has been having a fling with Naomi. Dot is left spluttering into her tomato juice!

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No.. think this drove them apart more as they couldn't see eye to eye on the issue and then along came naomi

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I think part of the problem is that all this Chloe business has brought back memories for Sonia and I think she still resents Martin deep down for the problems with Chloe and Jamie.

so has rebbeca nan died

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Originally Posted by crazygirl

he probably get excited and joins in :lol:

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LMAO :cheer: that would just be the funniest thing

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Originally Posted by sarah21

Sonia and Naomi is in the next few weeks - it's in the spoilers already out.

Martin finds out. He confonts her in the Vic and demands to know if she has been having a fling with Naomi. Dot is left spluttering into her tomato juice!

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do they break up though?
where did you read that anyway?

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Originally Posted by Angeltigger

so has rebbeca nan died

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Going too..

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Originally Posted by .:SpIcYsPy:.

Going too..

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Poor child.. she has been through enough

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Originally Posted by .:SpIcYsPy:.

Going too..

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Oh ok thanks, Do we know how?

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Originally Posted by sarah21

Sonia and Naomi is in the next few weeks - it's in the spoilers already out.

Martin finds out. He confonts her in the Vic and demands to know if she has been having a fling with Naomi. Dot is left spluttering into her tomato juice!



I think part of the problem is that all this Chloe business has brought back memories for Sonia and I think she still resents Martin deep down for the problems with Chloe and Jamie.

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omg he ask's her in the vic! you cant have a row in a pub about having a lesbian fling :lol: it all happens in the queen vic :rotfl:

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Originally Posted by crazygirl

omg he ask's her in the vic! you cant have a row in a pub about having a lesbian fling :lol: it all happens in the queen vic :rotfl:

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:rotfl: you can have a arguement anywhere in walford!! and the vic is always a good place for dirty secrets to air!!

Martin and Dawn!!!

i really hope they dont split martin and sonia up

oh dear! :(

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Originally Posted by debs

Martin and Dawn!!!

i really hope they dont split martin and sonia up

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I read in the Mail Weekend magazine that rumours about Sonia and Martin getting a divorce have been greatly exaggerated. This was said by Natalie Cassidy.

I think the whole Naomi thing will soon be forgotten about. It's obvious that Sonia doesn't share her feelings, she's just looking for some comfort, and as for Martin and Dawn, I really hope it's not true. Martin really doesn't seem like Dawn's type, he's way too young for her.

I can't believe how far apart Sonia and Martin have drifted. When you think back to the way they were just after they got married, they love's young dream. It's such a shame.

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Originally Posted by littlemo

I read in the Mail Weekend magazine that rumours about Sonia and Martin getting a divorce have been greatly exaggerated. This was said by Natalie Cassidy.

I think the whole Naomi thing will soon be forgotten about. It's obvious that Sonia doesn't share her feelings, she's just looking for some comfort, and as for Martin and Dawn, I really hope it's not true. Martin really doesn't seem like Dawn's type, he's way too young for her.

I can't believe how far apart Sonia and Martin have drifted. When you think back to the way they were just after they got married, they love's young dream. It's such a shame.

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how is he too young for her?

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Originally Posted by crazygirl

how is he too young for her?

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Maybe only by about 5 years but there's still a bit of an age gap. I just didn't see him being somebody she would go for. I thought it would be somebody who would challenge her a bit, like one of the Mitchells. She seems to be the kind of woman who craves adventure. And Martin isn't exactly the adventurous type.

But if it's just a one night stand, it's not a relationship. Maybe it's just a drunken mistake.

Sonia manages to get herself into some situations doesn't she?! She always seems to bare the brunt of everything.

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Originally Posted by crazygirl

how is he too young for her?

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Because he is only 20 and Dawn is about 25 isn't she? But age aside, Dawn is quite worldly wise and Martin is very immature. Dawn would chew Martin up and spit him out!

According to Heat mag, James and Kara are actually a couple.

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I read in the Mail Weekend magazine that rumours about Sonia and Martin getting a divorce have been greatly exaggerated. This was said by Natalie Cassidy.

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Did Natalie say anything else in the magazine? Was it an interview?

I've quite liked Sonia and Martin together and I'm glad to see that a few people here do too. My problem is that they haven't really done much with this couple. They disappear for months on end and it's a shame they seem to be falling apart, especially if the rumours about Rebecca coming back into their lives is true.

Apparently in the Daily Star today (somebody has told me this, so I don't know how true it is), there is a story that Natalie Cassidy has begged the producers to end Sonia's deadend marriage and split them up. James is supposed to have said the same. I find this very strange as Natalie isn't known for demanding storylines and interviews in magazines have always had James and Natalie saying how much they want Sonia and Martin to make this work. Then again, this is the Daily Star ...

Funny you should mention Dawn and one of the Mitchells because I could see her going after Phil. Someone with money, who could show her a good time.

I would actually like Sonia and Martin to split up. I never believed in them as a couple as it felt that they only put them together because of the Rebecca connection, and because Martin is the future of the Fowler family. I also felt that they put them together because they did not know what to do with either Martin or Sonia as individual characters.

I would actually be inclined to believe that Natalie and James would want them to split Sonia and Martin up. As characters that have been on the show for years, I would guess that they do have some say in how they would like their characters to progress. I can believe that Natalie and James may have gone to speak to Kate Harwood about being frustrated by their characters, and she may have taken their views on board, as if she did not, they may both have decided to leave.

Saying this however, I don't want them to split up because Martin sleeps with Dawn. I would rather they split up because they realised that they married too young, and that they have just drifted apart naturally. Not every marriage fails because of a third party.

Sonia and Martin are both good individual characters, but apart from Rebecca, they have nothing in common and are boring. They should find Sonia a new boyfriend, maybe a new doctor character, and Martin should find someone new as well. I would like them both to stay friends, but if Martin does sleep with Dawn, then I guess this is unlikely.

I think one of the reasons they put them together was, as you say, Martin is the future of the Fowler family and they wanted Sonia to be part of a major EE family. Obviously, this was meant to be the Mitchells but with Jack Ryder leaving they had to make it the Fowlers.

If they do split, which I think they will, I would like it to be friendly and not involve a third party, especially if Chloe comes back into their lives at some point.

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Originally Posted by sarah21

Because he is only 20 and Dawn is about 25 isn't she? But age aside, Dawn is quite worldly wise and Martin is very immature. Dawn would chew Martin up and spit him out!

According to Heat mag, James and Kara are actually a couple.



Did Natalie say anything else in the magazine? Was it an interview?

I've quite liked Sonia and Martin together and I'm glad to see that a few people here do too. My problem is that they haven't really done much with this couple. They disappear for months on end and it's a shame they seem to be falling apart, especially if the rumours about Rebecca coming back into their lives is true.

Apparently in the Daily Star today (somebody has told me this, so I don't know how true it is), there is a story that Natalie Cassidy has begged the producers to end Sonia's deadend marriage and split them up. James is supposed to have said the same. I find this very strange as Natalie isn't known for demanding storylines and interviews in magazines have always had James and Natalie saying how much they want Sonia and Martin to make this work. Then again, this is the Daily Star ...

Funny you should mention Dawn and one of the Mitchells because I could see her going after Phil. Someone with money, who could show her a good time.

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oh right i thought martin was 21 and dawn was 23 i was only guessing their ages i wasnt 100%

Apparently, Natalie has just been on Heart FM with Toby Anstis and said that Sonia and Martin split up at Christmas and Naomi's mother is arriving. She confirmed Martin and Dawn but didn't say if it was a one night stand or something more.

I did not hear this myself, I got it from another website.

Natalie deserves better storylines than the ones they are giving her as her acting talents are going to waste. if ee are not careful they will lose another big star through boredom. Sonia needs to have a happy time for a change

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Originally Posted by sarah21

Let's see Dawn coping with the mother-in-law from hell :p

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haha relationship id love to see :rotfl: Dawn and Pauline. somethign tell me that would be more firey than Sonia and Pauline. lol

But i beleive in the saying 'once a cheat always a cheat' he's done it before so whats stopping him!

i would love to see Dawn cope with Pauline

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Originally Posted by dddMac1

i would love to see Dawn cope with Pauline

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i think Dawn will be able to stand up to Pauline as she has done it with Everyone else

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Originally Posted by dddMac1

i would love to see Dawn cope with Pauline

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I don't think she will have to cope with her but I can see a falling out with Rosie and Pauline with poor Demi caught in the middle