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You're right, it shouldn't be a racist word but it has become so as it has continuously been used by racists in racist context. The correct abbreviation for someone from Pakistan is Pakistani, not Paki.Quote:
Originally Posted by soapyclean
Joyful are the days when we used to hear '****ing pakis, get em!'
As I said it depends on the context it's being used in, if it just where they come from no it's not. If it's got derogatory remarks before and after then yes, it's a case of who says it and how like all things.
The context it was said in on this occasiona was racist.
Not really. Meanings change over time so context is no longer applicable.Quote:
Originally Posted by soapyclean
Paki, like Nigger, is a derogatory term.
Nigger has changed.. black people say it to one another now as a compliment.. I hear it loads of times and I have asked them.. they changed the meaning so that it is not a derogatory term anymoreQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony MontanaNot really. Meanings change over time so context is no longer applicable.Quote:
Originally Posted by soapyclean
Paki, like Nigger, is a derogatory term.
Context does matter no matter what word is used, no matter if the meanings of words are changed or not.
How far do you take it though. Is Paddy, Taffy or Jock racist.
I suppose it depends on the context. At times I could find it offensive to be called a PADDY. I remember when the ''troubles'' were really bad being abused whilst on holiday ''for killing our soldiers'' The sad thing about it was that I was staying at the home of a soldier at the time.
Wasn't it an Englishman who recently complained to the courts in Australia regarding racist comments? I believe he was called a 'pom'.
I am Scottish and I object to Jock and Scotch as opposed to Scottish.
There are loads of derogatory terms for people from other countries - all of them used by people who are so uneducated that they don't know the proper term - and unbelievably, they don't understand that they ARE being racist!
Paki, Frog, Paddy, Jock, Hun etc etc. These terms are unacceptable and they are racist.
Have to confess I've not heard it in a complimentary term. Maybe there is a movement to make its meaning positive which wouldn't surprise me.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiobhanNigger has changed.. black people say it to one another now as a compliment.. I hear it loads of times and I have asked them.. they changed the meaning so that it is not a derogatory term anymoreQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony MontanaNot really. Meanings change over time so context is no longer applicable.Quote:
Originally Posted by soapyclean
Paki, like Nigger, is a derogatory term.
Edit: Maybe its the connotations behind the words.
Can you give me an example? Would you go over to your Pakistani friend and say "Hey Paki, how you doing today?"Quote:
Originally Posted by soapyclean