Jake Heaven

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

Not sure. He could be, though I'm not holding my breath. The week with the Allen house and Beth is the week after next. :)


Anyway something I really want to see from Jakey is him using his outdoor voice -- i.e. yelling at someone, maybe for screwing up in the club, and just really being the boss. That'd be cool to see. And I like the few times we've seen him as boss cos you can see how he's 'grown up' since he first came to the Square.

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That sounds good "Psycho" jake again:wub: :lol:

I love it when he gets angry and I mean angry.
I liked it when Jake was showing Grant who was boss when he started to "Misbehave" so to speak. You could tell by the tone of his voice and his "body" language that he was starting to become angry.
I like your idea of Jake severley "Disciplining" someone for whatever. Or he could catch someone nicking from the till, drag them outside the club and give them what for.

But BK all this would takelonger than 1 second:lol:

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Originally Posted by Babe14

God I sense brat attack. Just hope Jake tells her to behave or else. I would of thought she'd be glad that Jake is selling the house, bad memories etc. Time to move on Ruby!

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Well like I said Jake should have probably asked her first -- or at least told her he was doing it. But still...get over it.

Not to mention we keep getting Ruby's annoying drama about her father (who she already knew about way back in October) yet Jake shooting his brother has just been brushed under the carpet. "Oh, wah wah my daddy's a murderer." Yeah, so's Danny. And Jake had approximately half an hour to come to terms with that before having to come to terms with shooting him.. And for half of that time he was unconscious. Because his brother whacked a baseball bat round his head. He hasn't had since October, unlike some people, who were apparently fine with it before but now seem insistent on milking it for all it's worth.


Erm..sorry. Rant time again. :lol:

When Jake first came to the square his character came across as strong and he wasn't afraid of anything or anyone. Then after the "axing" saga "THEY" seemed to weaken the character, i.e during the Den storyline, but he still stood up to people and didn't run. However Jake is starting to be portrayed right again, strong, very very strong, cheeky, commical, caring, loving, warm, sensitive etc etc and we have seen that dark brutal streak which lies within. Usually he is a cool "dude" but whn he gets rattled and I mean really rattled....

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

Well like I said Jake should have probably asked her first -- or at least told her he was doing it. But still...get over it.

Not to mention we keep getting Ruby's annoying drama about her father (who she already knew about way back in October) yet Jake shooting his brother has just been brushed under the carpet. "Oh, wah wah my daddy's a murderer." Yeah, so's Danny. And Jake had approximately half an hour to come to terms with that before having to come to terms with shooting him.. And for half of that time he was unconscious. Because his brother whacked a baseball bat round his head. He hasn't had since October, unlike some people, who were apparently fine with it before but now seem insistent on milking it for all it's worth.


Erm..sorry. Rant time again. :lol:

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I agree 200% and you want rant I can go on and on about how certain characters are totally hogging the screen, two of these prob will until next summer, naff scripts, character assassination etc I just hope that Jake will hog the screen for his exit storyline and it had better be for at least 2 months or more. If it's not and "THEY" give him a naff or horrid exit, I will rant..rant..rave..scream etc..:lol:

Speaking of screentime thanks for putting me right on that I was getting confused with the weeks. (Or was it more like wishful thinking)

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Originally Posted by Babe14

That sounds good "Psycho" jake again:wub: :lol:

I love it when he gets angry and I mean angry.
I liked it when Jake was showing Grant who was boss when he started to "Misbehave" so to speak. You could tell by the tone of his voice and his "body" language that he was starting to become angry.
I like your idea of Jake severley "Disciplining" someone for whatever. Or he could catch someone nicking from the till, drag them outside the club and give them what for.

But BK all this would takelonger than 1 second:lol:

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More than one second?!?! Unacceptable! They'd just have to have the one second scene of Jake catching the guy, then we'd see everyone hearing about it in the Vic later. ;)

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Or with regards to your "Discipline" theory

Jake: Office Now!

End of Scene

Next day in the Vic..

Minty: Jake was giving someone a right ticking off last night, you should of heard him...

Gary: Really?

Minty: Yeah. Didn't get to see any of it though..

Gary: Not a thing?

Minty: No mate, not a thing..

Gary: Jake always seems to be stuck in that office. Wonder what he does in there?

Minty: Haven't a clue mate..

Gary: 'Ere you don't reckon he's got a bird in there do you?

Minty: Who knows mate. Who knows...

Gary: You know what Minty, something dawned on me the other night whilst we were down there. We hardly ever see Jake these days and when he does make an appearance, we see him for what...all of 2 seconds...

Minty: Yeah, if we're lucky...might even be 5...

LOL i feel a sarcastic rant at the bbc coming on
thanks bbc for getting a character as jake who was such a hit that when he was axed first time there was a huge demand for him to return so you involve him with a few storylines but thats it so thanks for your time and effort on a character who has been involved with sooo much
thinking of it does anyone other than the slaters and pat remember jake moon lets see ive asked several walford residents

"pauline fowler: jake moon?never heard of him oh wait oh no wasnt he friends with my martin at school?

peggy mitchell: jake....ive never heard of him in here darling...now order something or getta otta ma pub

phil: jake? never heard of him ive heard of alfie yeah he had a cousin called danny who tried to shoot me until some nutter shot him other than never heard of him

sonia:jake of course i remember jake didnt he come into the vic once then die when he got in and i made everyone endure his funeral oh no that was jack oops"

as you can see no one knows him but dont worry to much jake fans im going to study jakes horoscopes just for you

"ah jake your future is clear in the months to come it will be very quiet and dull not much then a major storyline in october will happen which involes you actually getting a job in birmingham also im sure you will be seeing a black cab in october lucky you"

:lol: To continue with D1's Horoscope Prediciton:

After you film your final scene, roughly around Aug, I predict a much happier and more active time ahead. Infact I foresee a very happy and busy period coming up and it involves the initals I T V 1....

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Originally Posted by diamond1

LOL i feel a sarcastic rant at the bbc coming on
thanks bbc for getting a character as jake who was such a hit that when he was axed first time there was a huge demand for him to return so you involve him with a few storylines but thats it so thanks for your time and effort on a character who has been involved with sooo much

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A result of which the actor became bored and decided to quit, just what you had planned all along. This way you knew you wouldn't get any flack from the public as it would be seen as Joel's decision...

well at least we've got the great realtionship with kevin and denise but as far as jake moon goes the writings has been on the wall since november 2005 and now the time has come...its obvious the powers that be didnt have anything for jake moon story wise but they have for ruby

Inside Soap

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I don't want to speak too soon, but it looks like Ruby may be tolerable next week after all. It sounds like she may start off bratty but hopefully the talk with Jake (I like the pic of him half-hugging her) will sort some things out and from what it says in the tv guides she does actually listen to him. Will wonders never cease.

I'm liking the sound of Beth as well. :)

And maybe some of the scenes will even hit the 10-second mark. :eek:

ETA: The weeks summary has for Monday "Jake spends the night with estate agent Beth," and for Friday "Ruby and Jake walk in on Stacey and Bradley's fun."

ETA2: Here's the home page pics for next week. Just the same pics as in the mags, but slightly bigger.

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:wub: Lucky Beth. So I'm guessing Jake/Beth go into the office snogging only for Ruby to be in there, Brat attack, Beth goes into the bar, Jake talks Brat round, she leaves, Beth comes back, snog coninues..end scene..Jake comes out of the office smiling...when club closes Beth/Jake go back to Jake's for coffee which lasts all night..:lol: Next morning Beth comes out of Jake's after another snog at the door..door closes and we see a very happy Jake who is grinning from ear to ear...:love:

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Originally Posted by Babe14

:wub: Lucky Beth. So I'm guessing Jake/Beth go into the office snogging only for Ruby to be in there, Brat attack, Beth goes into the bar, Jake talks Brat round, she leaves, Beth comes back, snog coninues..end scene..Jake comes out of the office smiling...when club closes Beth/Jake go back to Jake's for coffee which lasts all night..:lol: Next morning Beth comes out of Jake's after another snog at the door..door closes and we see a very happy Jake who is grinning from ear to ear...:love:

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.........in that infamous towel?

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Originally Posted by diamond1

.........in that infamous towel?

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Oh now you've done it, reminded me about Jake/Shower and YES THAT TOWEL!! Oh pleeeeeease....:love:

Well Jake and Beth spend at least two nights together so we need to at least see some chest. :wub: (And I don't mean hers, lol.)

I hope Beth sticks around after this week as well. :searchme:


I think Ruby being upset will be more about the house than Jake/Beth -- although she may also be a bit upset cos Jake isn't paying attention to her, as she's already upset about Stacey spending all her time with Bradley. But Jake helps her sort things out with Stacey and I think she comes round about the house too.

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Originally Posted by Babe14

Oh now you've done it, reminded me about Jake/Shower and YES THAT TOWEL!! Oh pleeeeeease....:love:

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like the bbc would ever do that now..... i think that bbc maybe leaning towards jake and ruby as a couple with all this bigbrother/little sister stuff

I'm hoping that the Beth Romance will continue and I'd be happy if she was connected with him leaving. (Sunset..new life..together..happy ever after)

Who couldn't Jake talk round. And yes we have to see "Naked" Jakey in some form or other. Two nights? Boy he's really making up for lost time isn't he:lol:

And what's happening all this sounds more than the 10 second max:eek:

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Originally Posted by diamond1

like the bbc would ever do that now..... i think that bbc maybe leaning towards jake and ruby as a couple with all this bigbrother/little sister stuff

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Oh no, it's not allowed:nono: I don't mind the brother/Sister stuff so long as it is done right, afterall this is what I wanted to see.

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Originally Posted by Babe14

I'm hoping that the Beth Romance will continue and I'd be happy if she was connected with him leaving. (Sunset..new life..together..happy ever after)

Who couldn't Jake talk round. And yes we have to see "Naked" Jakey in some form or other. Two nights? Boy he's really making up for lost time isn't he:lol:

And what's happening all this sounds more than the 10 second max:eek:

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I hope Beth doesn't disappoint - i.e. crap actress or anything. Radio Times say she's played by Kate Miles, so I think this is her IMDB, she's been in a couple of things if that is her.

Judging by how long it takes from them to move on from tenancy agreements to, erm, other matters...yes, he really is making up for lost time. :lol:

He's in at least three episodes next week...what's that about?!?

you wait ruby makes a pass at jake in the near future and he will respond (ironic after he told grant off) and stacy will try and warn ruby but she wont listen or its ruby birthday in october so she gets the club goes mad and has wild partys jake gets wary and heads for another job in birmingham and leavers her to it

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Originally Posted by diamond1

like the bbc would ever do that now..... i think that bbc maybe leaning towards jake and ruby as a couple with all this bigbrother/little sister stuff

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Yeuk, no, I wouldn't want to see that at all. :nono: I could see Ruby having a bit of a crush (seeing as she seems to like older men, Danny, Grant etc) but I still wouldn't like it. And definitely no relationship. (Where's a vomit smiley when you need one, lol.)

*official theory*or aliens abduct him and send him to 1tv1 head of drama and places him along martin kemp in a itv1 drama

the bbc then realize they made a mistake and hire some characters people might possibly like and give us a reason to watch eastenders other than an obligation to watching it

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

He's in at least three episodes next week...what's that about?!?

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really!? wow screw the world cup celebration everyone celebrate over jake moon appearingi in a few episodes i mean how rare is this....the world cup every 4 years same applies to a episode with jake moon

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

Yeuk, no, I wouldn't want to see that at all. :nono: I could see Ruby having a bit of a crush (seeing as she seems to like older men, Danny, Grant etc) but I still wouldn't like it. And definitely no relationship. (Where's a vomit smiley when you need one, lol.)

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Yuck:nono: :nono: :sick: :sick: (Vomit smiley)Romance for Jake/Ruby just Brother/Sister realtionship.

I keep having this gut feeling that this could be a possibility though and is the reason why Jake leaves. (And would be the type of thing Eastenders would do to finally "Assassinate" Jake's character. They have already started Character "Assassination" on him through "lack" of use - oops I really must stop havig a dig:lol: )

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Originally Posted by diamond1

*official theory*or aliens abduct him and send him to 1tv1 head of drama and places him along martin kemp in a itv1 drama

the bbc then realize they made a mistake and hire some characters people might possibly like and give us a reason to watch eastenders other than an obligation to watching it

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Better still the lovely Ray Winstone, Caroline Quentin, Michael Cane (Believe he is a fan of him), Alex Walkinshaw, Jeff Hordley, Matt Healy, Jimmy Nesbit, etc..etc..

I was hoping there would be some sort of retribution for the death of danny because they cant just kill someone and forget it especially his brother

DS spoilers for next week:

Thursday
Stacey breaks the news to Ruby that there's a let sign outside the Allen house. It's the first she's heard of it and she tries to track down Jake to find out what's going on. On finding him, Ruby and Jake have a heart-to-heart, delivering a few home-truths.

Jake shows Max and Tanya around [the Allen house] as Bradley and Stacey sneak out the back door.

Friday
Later that day, Jake and Ruby catch Bradley and Stacey in the Allen house mid-role-play. Ruby is furious and she runs off.

Max tells Jake he'll take the house.


:) Also mentioned in Mondays, but it's just the same thing with him and Beth.

wow another week of jake very rare......well i hope they dont pay him by the hours he works

Looking good, three days....

Jake beds Beth on Monday.

Looking forward to the heart-Heart with Ruby and home truths, hopefully it will be Jake who will be telling Ruby some and not the other way around.(Jake looks gorgeous in the piccy on DS - Black open neck shirt and his hair has.....:wub: :love:and his face is :wub: )

I do believe that Ruby could be Jealous or just panicking because everyone around her is having "fun" Did she care when she was with Juley or went on an "extended" holiday to Essex??

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Ruby is shaken when she goes sleepwalking. Stacey sneaks into the Slaters' after spending the night with Bradley in the Allen house, only to be busted by Mo. Ruby storms out when Mo tells her that she has been sleepwalking.

Later that day, Jake and Ruby catch Bradley and Stacey in the Allen house mid-role-play. Ruby is furious and she runs off. Bradley chases after her and tells her not to throw her friendship away. Will Ruby pluck up the courage to apologise?

Max tells Jake he'll take the house; and Minty decides to go on the trip on his own.

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Oh no! Double Brat Strop!!

Looks like Eastenders have out done themselves next week where Jake is concerned, Reckon we could get 2min scenes+:eek: :eek:

Of course we won't see him again until October:angry:

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Originally Posted by Babe14

Oh no! Double Brat Strop!!

Looks like Eastenders have out done themselves next week where Jake is concerned, Reckon we could get 2min scenes+:eek: :eek:

Of course we won't see him again until October:angry:

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Least the line of Brat Fire isn't directed at Jake this time though. :bow:

Actually I understand her being upset about Bradley/Stacey using the house, because they shouldn't be there. The problem is that Ruby's had a strop about so many things that even when her pov is understandable, you still think, "Oh here we go again."

what kind of heart to heart can ruby have

its possible jake can reveal hes guilt over danny,never really having someone whos loved him,being the outcast,his bad background,and his alcholic dad

but ruby other than jhonny what can she moan about...."oh when i was 11 i was devastated when i found out that bloke from westlife was gay!"

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

Least the line of Brat Fire isn't directed at Jake this time though. :bow:

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Apart from when she finds out that he is selling the house. Understandable, afterall it was her home. Jake should of said something to her or maybe he does?

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Actually I understand her being upset about Bradley/Stacey using the house, because they shouldn't be there. The problem is that Ruby's had a strop about so many things that even when her pov is understandable, you still think, "Oh here we go again."

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Trouble is, like with many things in Eastenders things are "repetitive" all the time, so you do tend to think "Oh god not again" etc. You end up resenting characters and growing bored with them because of it, hence "character assassination"

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Originally Posted by diamond1

its possible jake can reveal hes guilt over danny,never really having someone whos loved him,being the outcast,his bad background,and his alcholic dad

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Again repetition, O.K. no problem with a little reference to Danny but to go over the same ground again would be boring. Yes would like to hear more about Jake's past...

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but ruby other than jhonny what can she moan about...."oh when i was 11 i was devastated when i found out that bloke from westlife was gay!"

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She could tell Jake about her mum and Scarlet and how it's been for her since they were killled. How now she feels totally alone with Johnny "gone" as well, common link with Jake, he too is all alone.

Also she could reveal how she looked upon Stacey as a "surrogate" sister and now that she is with Bradley she feels that she is losing her. The same could be said of Jake, except obviously he would be "Surrogate" brother, now he is with Beth she feels that she is losing him too..

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Originally Posted by Babe14

Again repetition, O.K. no problem with a little reference to Danny but to go over the same ground again would be boring. Yes would like to hear more about Jake's past...



She could tell Jake about her mum and Scarlet and how it's been for her since they were killled. How now she feels totally alone with Johnny "gone" as well, common link with Jake, he too is all alone.

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I think to reference Jake's dad in relation to Johnny would be okay...to kinda of say that he knows how Ruby feels -- I know it could come out sounding like "My pyscho father was worse than yours so shut up whining," but I think it could be managed quite well.

I think the talk is mainly about Ruby and how she feels alone like you said -- in the article Joel said that Jake is moving on, and wants Ruby to be able to do the same. This could be where any reference to Danny gets thrown in - although again with a bad writer this could come across as callous, "I shot my brother and got over it so move the hell on with your trauma too."

Honestly I think it's best not to mention Danny unless they're willing to show Jake have an actual reaction to it. Bringing up his name and what happened would knock him a bit even for only a short while until he got himself together again, so if they don't show that to bring him up would be out of place.

I hope any 'home-truths' to Ruby are given in a nice way, not because I wouldn't like seeing Brat get a smackdown (Although my desire for that is lessening because she is getting better), but because I think it would be out of character for Jake unless he got really aggravated.

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

Honestly I think it's best not to mention Danny unless they're willing to show Jake have an actual reaction to it. Bringing up his name and what happened would knock him a bit even for only a short while until he got himself together again, so if they don't show that to bring him up would be out of place.

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Agree. I think that Danny has had his day and should just be left now. I think it would be realistic to leave things how they are as Jake seems to be able to just block things out and move on

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I hope any 'home-truths' to Ruby are given in a nice way, not because I wouldn't like seeing Brat get a smackdown (Although my desire for that is lessening because she is getting better), but because I think it would be out of character for Jake unless he got really aggravated.

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The only way Jake would be brutal to Ruby is if she started having a real brat attack at him, I.E You've no idea how I'm feeling. What the hell do you know" etc
Even when Grant was making out his life was bad, Jake was firm, slightly angry/brutal but at the same time pointed out that his life hadn't exactly been a bed of roses but he is managing to move on.

I too think that Ruby is getting better and will hopefully continue to do so with a little help from her "Big" brother Jake:) Also if Jake/Ruby started becoming close then when Jake leaves we will have emotion already building into whatever the "Exit" storyline is ..

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Originally Posted by Babe14

Agree. I think that Danny has had his day and should just be left now. I think it would be realistic to leave things how they are as Jake seems to be able to just block things out and move on

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I think they've missed the boat with Danny to be honest. They got it right up until the whole "drive a car at Jake," thing. They got the timing of that right, because killing Danny wouldn't lead to a slow descent to depression it would be an immediate crash. But they needed to show Jake coming back up out of it, rather than the "Okay, I'm totally fine now," that we got. But they haven't, so to go back now and try to do it over would be stupid.

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I too think that Ruby is getting better and will hopefully continue to do so with a little help from her "Big" brother Jake:) Also if Jake/Ruby started becoming close then when Jake leaves we will have emotion already building into whatever the "Exit" storyline is ..

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If they do start getting closer we'll most likely see an emotional response from Ruby when Jake leaves (actually, unless Beth does stick around, Ruby's probably the only person who'll even notice he's gone) as, though she'll have sorted her head out more in October, it'll be another person leaving her. They'll most likely tie it into Ruby "coming of age," as she'll be thrust into owning the club and won't have Jake to fall back on if things go wrong.

Aww I would so love it if Jake's motive for leaving the square was to start afresh and a new life with Beth. (he could still see her "Off Screen" so to speak and all their communication can be done via mobile) Next day we see Jake returning home after spending the night with her...)Yes to tie it in with Ruby's coming of age and having to take on the responsibility of the club by herself would be good..(can just see Ruby in panic mode "Jake you can't leave") O.K a bit of a boring ending for Jake but it would do me as it would mean happiness for him. Although if we throw in all the emotion and turmoil of Ruby it could be quite "explosive" and if done right heart touching..

Following this we could have the storyline of Ruby trying to cope with running the club,(think this could be both interesting and funny to see) although to be perfectly honest I think that it will be Grant who will be showing her the ropes (If he returns)..plus I don't think that Jake would leave her completely in the lurch..

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Originally Posted by Babe14

O.K a bit of a boring ending for Jake but it would do me as it would mean happiness for him. Although if we throw in all the emotion and turmoil of Ruby it could be quite "explosive" and if done right heart touching..

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I think it could be quite a fitting ending (though I would like something a bit more explosive) as it would bring his character full circle - he'd be doing something for himself finally, rather than always looking after someone all the time (Danny, Chrissie, Ruby).

I agree, he wouldn't leave Ruby in the lurch completely though - I'm not sure how to get around that. I suppose she's got the Slaters, but they wouldn't be much help with the club. :searchme: