We will get an explanation, whether it is a good one, remains to be seenQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
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We will get an explanation, whether it is a good one, remains to be seenQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Bear - The Stud Muffin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snagglepus
If Bear is sick and frail I struggle to think what use he would be as a modern slave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Probably not anymore now but I think 100 days ago he was found disorientated and they offered him board and lodgings for helping on the farm.. Now frail and injured he is still at their mercy, being manipulated into whatever they want him to do. I am sure the episode where all is explained will make things a lot clearer and then we will see how it all pans out. It is too much to hope that both Celia and Ray will be found out and are gone by Christmas?Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
If Bear is still fit enough to work on the farm, he would be fit enough to pick up Ray and body slam him into the ground. He is being kept in alocked shed, so obviously not there of his own free will. You do not lose skills and techniques you spent years practicing. This story makes no sense, If Anya had the money Caleb gave her, why was she hanging around the village waiting for Ray to find her. Surely she does not have a connection to someone in the village? As you say, there will be an explanation, but it really does need to be a good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
At the moment Bear is confused, probably has hardly eaten and drank so he is physically not able to bodyslam a fly let alone a fit young man.. he also is not aware that he is being treated as a slave.. he has no idea who he is and where he is or what is going on..Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
All we have seen of him is just sitting but although he does not look dynamic, I do feel we have not seen enough to judge his physical condition. He must know he is locked in a shed so he must have some clue that he is not free to leave. Since Celia and Ray seem to be away from the farm a lot, unless there is an "overseer" on the farm, he cannot be doing much work. If they just leave him to get on with work when they are not there there would be nothing to stop him leaving.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
moira or someone would see bear working celias farmQuote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
He must be doing some work, Ray said something to him some days ago, could not understand what it was though.. not sure the place is locked as there seem to be half a dozen of "slaves" in that barn now....??Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
Wow this show is getting too grim for me. I might be sticking with recaps for awhile and only tune in if there is an episode that is a bit lighter.
Showing what for some is reality can be very disturbing to watch, might be a while before you can watch a lighter episode ...Quote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
I must have missed an episode as Friday was the first time I remember seeing Bear and apart from Anya I have not seen any other slaves. The door was definitely locked as we saw him unlock it with a key, there was also a bolt on the outside of the door, and he locked it again when he left. Judging by the way Celia would not let Paddy inspect the chickens, I am beginning to think there is no chickens. In fact I think the farm is just a front for the drug dealing, so not sure what work would need to be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Wait until you have seen tonight's episode...Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
You would think so, particularly in a village where everyone, especially Nicola, seems to know everybodys business. But I suppose it depends how far Celia's farm is from the village.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
You must be ahead of us in Spain, as you seem to have seen things I have not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
I watch the early screening of the episodes available on ITV X, both Emmerdale and CorrieQuote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
no explanation of why bear left the village and was angry before ray took him in
instead of you've got to pick a pocket or two, you've got stay here, oliver twist with adults
I did not realize you could watch episodes before they were shown on terrestial TV, I thought they were only shown as catch up. I thought it was only Eastenders that showed them early.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Most soaps do these daysQuote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
We saw Bear leave the village after rowing with Paddy, he was meant to go to Ireland but we did see him sleeping in a field in his car at one time.. that must have been where Ray found him and took him in..Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Good news on the horizon :thumbsup:
share pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Under Spoiler section Celia ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I can imagine this all leading back to Joe, who was connected with Celia at some point. After the illegal organ harvesting, the ordering stabbings, and being responsible for the deaths of three people and just getting away with it, I'd like to think there is some story planned that he gets his. At the time, I did wonder whether his fallout with Celia was real, and I still question whether she has a boss herself, and it's Joe.
everything with joe seems forgotten and pointlessQuote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
I hope not, this story is complicated enough without bringing Joe into it. I am having a hard time following it, Joe would make it impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
Celia and Ray must be held up as shining examples of how enterprising people can set up small businesses. Not content to just deal in drugs they also have modern slavery and a pimping businesses. I am surprized that Celia can find the time to stroll about with that stick over her shoulder, and Ray has time to woo Laurel.
At times they are turning soaps, which are on going dramas, into those types of drama series where once a story is told, it is over, forgotten, and has no bearing on future stories. The amount of forgiveness and forgetfulness involving Joe would never happen in the real world.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
bear could barely stand and move and next was back up, out working, you'd think he would have knocked out Ray, it looked only celia and Ray at the farm overseeing the chickens and turkeys
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Originally Posted by Perdita
Bear is a bit like SuperMack all over again.This is a serious subject but it deserves better treatment than it is being given here. This like a budget version which dilutes any serious message that they are trying to deliver. The bit that makes me laugh is the zombie like characters walking about in the background carrying bags of chichen feed. A Down's Syndrome man added in the name of diversity, I find this bit patronizing. Ray has now become all assertive and bullying instead of nice Ray trying to sweet talk April into doing things she does not want to do. There is just nothing about this story that feels authentic.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I think Ray is like this now as he is being supervised by his mother who he clearly is afraid of, quite rightly so too. I totally agree with your other comments..Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
hopefully now we will see robert go get seb
So Kev is Lewis' father. What are the chances:rolleyes:
Will not be long before that becomes common knowledge ... and Kev will be a devoted father..Quote:
Originally Posted by katie hunter
did emma turn him gay or is he bi?Quote:
Originally Posted by katie hunter
Emma only gave birth to him, she had him adopted straight away so his sexuality has nothing to do with herQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
If Kev is Lewis's father this will be the proof I need, that Emmerdale is inside a "Dome". Explaining why long lost relatives can never escape the village.Quote:
Originally Posted by katie hunter
Are you referring to Kev or Lewis.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I was on about KevQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita