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You have to remember that Kirk is not the sharpest tool in the box. Years ago, Chesney was reckoned to be a child genius. He is well lacking in common sense now thinking he can run a flat on his market trader's money.Quote:
Originally Posted by sean slater
The John Stape story is keeping me hooked on Corrie at the moment, but I do think Eddie's exit was a load of rubbish.
Last week seen the return of Dennis and Marcus. :hmm:
Norris seemed very miffed that Rita was happy to let Dennis stay with her.:(
Shaun cannot see what is in front of him. All the girls new Marcus had come back for him.:love:
Amy has been watching Tracy to much. The little minx is playing them both.:nono:
I hope Faye goes soon
What a mixed episode tonight. Crap - The sad demise of John Stape in an increasingly dire storyline. If the police were so worried about him being on the run and liable to return to Fiz why didnt they post a guard on the house. One of the first things they should have done was search the house including the attic. What a sad end and crap storyline for Graeme Hawley as John.
Excellent - The social workers and Becky was superbly acted. I could almost feel a tear for her and Steve, even though it was Steve who grassed her up. Its just a pity she takes her revenge on Traceyluv and not on Devilboy.
I'm sorry to sort of disagree with you, Alan...
Although I agree Becky acted superbly I think the storyline itself was crap. In my humble opinion there is absolutely no way that Social Services would have taken Max away from Becky and Steve at that point. Firstly it is obvious that Max is happy where he is and well cared for and well looked after. He is not at risk in any way. It is in his best interests that, at least for the time being, until the 'thorough investigation' takes place, that he should stay where he is and not uproot him. Secondly, Becky is his aunt, so she is a close relative, better than a foster family. And thirdly, it would cost Social Services money to remove Max to a foster home. In these cash strapped times for local councils they would do all they could to avoid having to do that.
Funnily enough this is what I was thinking as the story unfolded. When the episode ended, my wife, who worked in the child and adolescent field and had spent most of her working life working with social workers in the care of children said, "What a pile of poo!" And then went on to say exactly what I had been thinking from her experience.
Can someone answer where Schmiechael is with all this carry on with John. He's not allowed in Fiz's house and chesney has been held hostage so who's been looking after him.
I was wondering that tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Chloe O'brien
Coronation Street's Katherine Kelly has admitted that she found it "horrendous" filming the scenes when social services took Max away from Becky and Steve.
Speaking to the ITV soap's official website, Kelly discussed shooting the scenes, seen in last night's episode, after it is discovered that the couple paid Becky's sister Kylie (Paula Lane) to keep her son.
"Filming the scenes when they took Max away were just horrendous," the actress confessed. "Absolutely heartbreaking, on both levels.
"Little Harry is such a gorgeous boy and I'm going to miss him so much. He brightens mine and Simon's [Gregson] world and now we're not going to see him anymore. So as you can imagine, that's an awful thing to happen and I wasn't looking forward to the day we filmed that, I'll tell you!"
Discussing the impact of events on Becky, she continued: "It was so heartbreaking for Becky. This is it. You know, she's lost her own flesh and blood. Her only chance of flesh and blood and she can just imagine him crying that night for her and... oh, I don't even want to go there!"
However, Becky remains unaware that it was her husband Steve (Simon Gregson) who purposely made social services suspicious of the arrangement.
"How will Becky react when she finds out that Steve did it? I'm not telling you!" Kelly teased. "You're going to have to watch. I will tell you that she doesn't find out [tonight] - she makes one final attempt to get Max back.
"There are plenty of suspects. Let's say, she basically just goes through the list - because she will find out who did it. Steve would be the last person on earth that she would think would do that to her, and he did - how could you, Steve?"
Kelly, who will depart the show early next year, recently admitted that she asked for Becky not to be killed off.
So anyway, last night's episode finished on a real cliff-hanger, with Fiz being run over and lying in the street. Is she dead? Seriously injured? What? Tune in to the next episode to find out.
Immediately afterwards they showed clips from tonight's episode showing that Fiz is OK. Duh!!! :wall:
I hate when they do that.. ruins everythingQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
I bow to your wife's expert knowledge. The story would appear to get even crapper as it seems that Max is handed to Devil Boy and the Kiddie Seller. In my time I have seen some good Social Workers and some totally appalling ones, like the one who returned a child who was running about a housing estate totally naked at three in the morning while her mother was lying in a drunken heap in the home. At least we both agree that Katherine Kelly's acting was superb.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
The police response to the Stape affair has been equally crap, and I can speak as somewhat of an expert on that. :)
I really enjoyed how scared Tracey was when Becky was smashing up her house :D
I know Becky was a little too handy with that sledgehammer. And John ain't dead never seen that one coming.
You would have thought that Steve would have fessed up about making the phone call a lot sooner to stop Becky smashing the Barlow's place to pieces
I was amazed that he was allowed to wander around the hospital with a baby in his arms all due to the apparently invincible power of a white coat. and why wasn't there any CCTV in the part of the hospital car park where he fell?Quote:
Originally Posted by alan45
They should have killed off John Stape . The stupid scriptwriters left them with no other choice . Of course these were probably the same ones who dreamt up the ridiculous return of Traceyluv
Well the continuation of the John Stape saga gets even more stupid than before. Does anyone actually research things nowadays. Just where did that stupid DS get the power to arrest Fiz on suspicion of Murder. He had absolutely no grounds. He had no evidence to implicate her in Colin Fishwicks death. No-one can say if he was actually murdered and certainly not the Soap Police. They havent even found a body yet let alone established whether or not it is that of the late Mr Fishwick. IMHO the only power of arrest he would have had was for assisting an offender and procuring the unlawful disposal of a body. That aside when he had her back at the Nick he announced his presence for ''the benefit of the tape'' and totally omitted to mention either his colleague or Fiz's brief. Shoddy research and poor scriptwriting.
While Im on my soapbox how totally unprofessional was Cheryl when Dev's card was declined. She insisted in a loud voice in front of The Aunties that there was nothing wrong with the card and then when Dev who lives 3 doors down from the restaurant and is a personal friend of the owner offered to sort the matter out she made a huge fuss. That's what you get if you employ a lap dancer as a Restaurant Manager
RANT OVER
Yes, I noticed that and remarked on it to my other half.Quote:
Originally Posted by alan45
Also, Alan, yet another social services implication...would the police have just hauled Fiz off without ensuring that Hope was properly being cared for? I can't believe that they wouldn't have involved Social Services and done a proper risk assessment or some such.
Corrie seems more concerned with sensationalism these days than decent scriptwriting. I fear it's going downhill at the moment
And another thing.....
If Dev's sold five of his shops, why is he broke? I know he wasn't insured for the damage to his Corner Shop and had to rebuild and restock but surely selling five shops is going to more than cover that.
Just watched tonight's first episode. It was so funny to watch those weasels Graeme and Xim squirming and panicking at the thought of the authorities catching up with them. I'd have no qualms about shopping them whatsoever if I were in Tina's shoes.
What accent is Stella suppose to have?
Northern, I believe she has had elocution lessons to help her with a Manchester accentQuote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I think she should get her money back in that case!
i imagine her accent will take time, a few weeks doing scenes around people with real northern accents will help! her glottal stops were pretty criminal lol.
Not a very good northern accent,:rotfl:
The lady before her, that Steve interviewed was a proper Manchester accent.
Has she had work done on her face, because she looks different.
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Coronation Street producer Phil Collinson has declared that he believes new cast member Michelle Collins made a "great" debut on the ITV1 soap.
The former EastEnders star made her first appearance as new Rovers Return landlady Stella Price in last night's ratings-winning episode, but some viewers appeared to be unconvinced by the Weatherfield newcomer's accent.
Collinson praised the Hackney-born actress's attempt to master a Northern twang and insisted that all memories of her iconic EastEnders character Cindy Beale, who she played between 1988 and 1998, will soon be forgotten.
"I think the landlady of the Rovers Return would have to be a Northern character, really," he said on This Morning. "I don't think we could have had a Southerner running the pub.
"I think her accent's great. I think the thing is people will just get used to it. Within a couple of weeks she'll be Stella; she won't be Cindy anymore."
Collins previously revealed that she was "working hard" with a dialect coach ahead of her Coronation Street debut.
Ooops.
Corrie newcomer show soap is losing its touch
Jun 19 2011 by Jon Wise, The People
TROUBLE on Coronation Street, where Becky’s gone AWOL, Sean’s been left with a baby and *scriptwriters have lost their grip on reality.
Parts of this great show are getting even more over the top than Jimmi Harkishin’s acting – and that’s saying something.
And to cap it all, Cindy Beale (actress Michelle Collins) has arrived “oop north” with an accent like she’s swallowed a vat of Yorkshire tea.
It’s the latest in the list of *celebrity signings (the most *misguided so far turning out to be Chris Fountain).
Stella Price (ex-EastEnder Michelle’s *latest soap guise) is brassier than a polished door-knocker and sharper than one of Gordon Ramsay’s knives.
There’s no doubt her *character is set to stir up a storm even Ryan Giggs would find hard to overshadow.
The problem is, in Michelle’s effort to shed her Enders *character, she’s developed an accent that’s more fake than one of Cheryl Cole’s overly whitened teeth.
To top it all, Stella *managed to cajole pub boss Steve into a £200 raise plus *accommodation for her and fella Karl (John Michie).
All in less time than it takes a British summer to become a washout. In the meantime, Becky managed to wreck a hotel room without a whiff of security *knocking on the door. And Tracy signed over custody rights just on the promise of a posh meal out.
One of the joys of Corrie is its simple, realistic take on life and its witty commentary.
Of course, there are the times when storylines are *fantastical and larger than life (there aren’t many streets in the UK that can boast so many murderers). But day to day, the plots need to be kept on solid ground.
Elsewhere, knicker-stitcher Sean has been left to bring up the baby he fathered with *ex-pint-puller Violet.
And Julie is on some search for a man that is about as *interesting as watching Roy Cropper boil an egg.
The only saving graces this week were the gossip between the older characters, *particularly Eileen, Norris and Rita, who always bring the show back down to earth with a satisfying bump.
“There are more gay men *coming through her door than there were at Judy Garland’s funeral,” quipped Norris of Eileen’s lodgers.
And Corrie bosses finally gave Tina some decent *stories, transforming her character back into the feisty brunette we all fell in love with.
As for Stella behind the bar – it may be a very slow “accent” to Corrie royalty.
Absolutely right, Alan. How long did it take security to get up to Becky's room. There was a complaint about the noise while Steve was in reception and the receptionist said she would get it dealt with, yet Steve had time to go up there himself, talk to Becky, go back to the pub, talk to Roy and Haley, have Roy and Haley go back to the hotel, Roy and Haley to talk to Becky, all before security turned up. Remind me not to stay in that hotel in case there's an emergency!
Also, Tracy's whole character was completely turned on its head in a second by having her fall for Steve's "trick". She would never in a million years not check the papers before signing.
As for Stella's introduction, the least said the better.....
As you say, Alan, it was a very shoddy episode. Perhaps the scriptwriters are auditioning for Eastenders?
I cant actually claim credit for the article. It was in the People but I have to say I think its a very accurate portrayal of what is amiss on the cobbles.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
I have thought for some weeks now that Corrie is becoming a northern clone of deadenders. The scriptwriting and storylines are abysmal, sensationalist nonsense. Very disappointing that they are trying to dumb it down
i think what they've tried to do for the past few weeks is show that Tracy has fallen for Steve, or at least the idea of them all living at the Rovers as a family. Once Becky was out of the way and she was working back in the pub she essentially thought she had it in the bag and that Steve had come round to her way of thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
While it's true that Tracy's always had a bit of a blind spot about Steve, I do think she fell for his trick too easily - given that she's usually portrayed as cunning.
Well at least the aunts have left. Something good at last.
What did they come back for anyway. Does anyone know or even careQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
I think it was to prove that the Coronation Street writers have forgotten how to write comedy properly.
Corrie used to be good at humour. Still a little bit about. :hmm:Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
I would leave the Aunts in Deli, they are about as funny as watching your toast burn.:o :wall:
I've only just got round to reading yesterday's Daily Mirror! But this is Jim Shelley's article, headed, 'Stella's just streets behind sexy Cindy.'
'So Michelle Collins has crossed the great divide – from EastEnders to *Coronation Street.
Sexy Cindy is now “Stella”, the new manager of the Rovers.
In so doing, she has become soap’s Denis Law or Alex McLeish in a skirt (NOT an attractive image).
True, it’s happened before. Tricky Dicky did a stint as Liz McDonald’s boyfriend, but no one as high profile or iconic has defected like this.
How should we feel about it? To paraphrase the Whitney Houston song: “It’s not right, but is it OK?”
I like Michelle Collins, but I loved Cindy.
I doubt she can ever make us see Stella without thinking of Cindy, despite a northern accent seemingly perfected by studying Hovis ads.
Of course, in their defence, Cindy is dead. She was killed off in 1998 in prison *(off-camera, weirdly) after hiring a hit man to shoot Ian Beale – which you’d have thought was not so much a crime as a public service.
And so Collins arrived on Thursday without fanfare, walking into the Rovers, arms crossed, in classic pose.
“Just ask her out,” she advised Tommy Duckworth about Tina. “All this innuendo, you sound like Austin Powers.” As opening lines go, this was rubbish, so low key it was the antithesis of the high-impact nonsense *EastEnders comes up with.
Things looked *promising when the writers dangled the prospect of Collins and Simon Gregson (two of soap’s great sex maniacs) getting together when Stella was moving upstairs next to Steve.
But disaster struck on Friday when it *transpired Stella had brought her fella (DI Robbie Ross from Taggart) and daughter, Eva, (a cross between a mini Cindy and Raquel).
Still, I doubt that will stop her. There’s no point in casting Collins if she doesn’t cop off with someone. My money is on Dev.
Corrie’s producers *probably see securing an *EastEnders legend as a coup.
Corrie is certainly in the mire right now, having gone downhill since its brilliant *anniversary week faster than the tram plunging over the viaduct.
The preposterous John Stape and unbearable Fiz have taken over.
Graeme has left, having spent his last weeks trapped in a storyline that saw him marrying Xin to stop her being deported (yawn!) and then choosing her over Tina (what!?).
“You know the sad thing is, I genuinely believed Graeme loved you,” Rita told Tina. Yes! So did we!!
The perfectly poised, barbed battle between Becky and Tracy has been absolutely ruined by the return of Kylie and Max going into care, causing Becky to go off the rails. Again.
Suddenly, Corrie has A LOT of dead wood.
There are the deadly boring Christian lesbians and junior Ken Barlow; Gary and Izzy; Lloyd and Cheryl.
The trademark Corrie comedy provided by Sunita’s aunties is falling flatter than a stag night with the Dalai Lama.
Then last week Sean got one of those fateful soap phone calls revealing that Violet had been in an accident.
This resulted in Sean and Marcus taking care of Sean’s baby, Dylan, and far too much screen time for Antony Cotton.
“Oh no, poor Violet,” said Maria. Oh no, poor us more like.
“This is a complete *nightmare!” Sean cried. Well, he said it.
So all in all, Michelle Collins has got her work cut out.
She’ll probably be good in Coronation Street but her biggest problem is that you can’t help thinking, now that *EastEnders is over-run with kids, how great Cindy would have been now – Walford being where she really belongs.'
All of it - how very true.
As usual Jim Shelley hits the nail on the head. He has summed up whats wrong with Corrie very well. No doubt all the EE fans will agree. Just a pity they dont agree when he slags off the precious EE