Let us all just hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
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Let us all just hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
Exactly the same as Tom King, pushed on his chest with his back to the window.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
If not, I hope that he becomes a patient who Jacob is assigned to.Quote:
Originally Posted by thestud2k7
But I actually suspect Kim. She's annoyed at Joe because of Dawn. She didn't want him to live there but he ignored her and walked further into her home. I think she made the pact with Caleb and Ruby so that Joe is all hers to take care of. She publicly sticks up for him to divert blame from herself, but I would bet that she hired someone to take care of him.
It bothers me too much when they show weak or foolish Kim. I much prefer the Kim who takes care of her own.
The whole Joe Tate return has been mess if you think about it his whole return was wanted to bring Kim down as soon will died be dropped that plan come on emmerdale don’t take us fans for fools
I never understood his purpose either. Surely Kim saw how conveniently he showed up right before Will took ill, and how he was just standing there looking and not doing anything after Will had his heart attack, almost as if he were intrigued by Will slowly dying. Will also told her that he wasn't being allowed out of a revenge plot. She had to shout at Joe to call 911 because he seemed to be enjoying the scene so much. And in spite of the odd timing of his arrival, his defying her about Dawn, his illegal organ harvesting, her telling him to get out of her house and his walking deeper inside, it made no sense to me. None of the pieces tied together.
I don't like Kim being dumbed down or being made to look week so that a story could be presented as the writers want, characterizations be darned.
So I'm in full agreement, @thestud2k7.
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Originally Posted by thestud2k7
Sometimes it is like they write these tales as a series of short stories which should connect up but do not gel together in a way that makes any real sense. As long as there are regular dramatic points they seem to be happy even if we are not. I cannot beleve Joe is dead as that would bring too many tales to an end. With Joe alive there is still mileage to be had, the old who done it, the hospital bed scenes, Dawn wailing and nashing her teeth and more moody misery scenes with Steph.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
If this was Eastenders Mo would be running a book on who did it.
the fall surely would have reopened his kidney wound
that episode needed poirot or miss marple, seemed like a cast from agatha christie
Joe lives! Will we ever be rid of his smug face?
If Joe had been pushed, someone would have had to be strong enough to overpower him to get him anywhere near the window and push him hard enough to break the glass. Although knowing the writers it will probably end up being Clemmie that did it.
I'm kind of glad because I think that it will be interesting to see Jacob's dilemma if responding to a code if Joe is in crisis.
I don't think that Jacob would ever recover if he did go through killing Joe, or withholding treatment, but I think that having considered it and realizing that he is better than that will help him with his grief for Laila.
Take a look at the promo photos versus what we see in the show. They are different shots.
The stills posted make the blood on his cheek look like a little cross, and the broken wood from the window makes it look like he fell on his cross.
What we've seen in the show is different on both counts.
And it irks me to see the image in the stills because Joe was anything but a holy man. He was a monster.
Kill him JacobQuote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
will the spiking of noah, stealing the kidney investigations be dropped now joe was pushed that investigation taking priority
Should all be part of the same investigation. - motivation.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
i hope they areQuote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
What's the evidence that he was pushed ?Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
i doubt he jumped intentionallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Dennis tanner
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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner
It would take quite a lot of force to break the glazing bars in the window. Looking at how he landed, it looks like he went out backwards and turned in mid air. I cannot see how he would be in that position otherwise, but if he fell back against the window I do not think he could hit it with enough force to break through it. If he was trying to kill himself, which I doubt, surely he have gone up to the roof to gain height as the window is not high enough to guarantee death.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
The truth of how he was posed on the ground is more likely sloppy direction, and because it gave a better camera angle.
I guess you should never attempt jumping jacks while on cat tranqs.
Did Joe drink the spiked drink or did Charity pour it down the sink, that would show up in his blood results
I do not think he did, he kept putting it down and picking it up, to build suspense. I did not think Charity poured it down the sink, did she? I was waiting for some innocent soul, like Kerry or Mandy, to pick it up and drink it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Joe is very unpopular. An efficient Police force would consider attempted suicide ( Or hopefully suicide) as the best solution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
Mandy please., shared with SpamheadQuote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
dawn covering for clemmie and or lucas
Maybe they have and ruled it out. I think if he was committing suicide he would simply have opened the window and jumped out, rather than run across the room and hit the window with enough force to burst through it. It was not higher enough to kill him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis tanner
He never looked like he was going to kill himself to me... :hmm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis tanner
I'm beginning to think there will be a cop-out ending like when Craig was kicked by the horse. I'm expecting someone we didn't even know was in town to have snuck into the house and pushed Joe.
he has stolen a kidney so health goodQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Nor me but it's still the easiest solution in a soap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Just read Corrie and Emmedale are going to film a crossover episode together, so could it be someone from The Cobbles who pushed Joe? My money is on Mary, Rita or Bobby.
As long as John doesn't go to treat Debbie, I'm okay with most options.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
so the police tested all drinks glasses from the party for prints and substances, joe had sleeping tablets himself as he gave to kim , why test if he hadn't drank, now poor noah up ****s creek
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Originally Posted by lizann
None of this makes any sense, if they tested Joe in hospital and did not get a positive result, as you say, why test the glasses, unless they just have nothing else to with their time. I still do not understand why Charity would give Joe a sedative. What was she trying to achieve, did she use enough to kill him, if not what was the point? Was she just trying to show him how it felt to be spiked? But all that would happen is the Joe would have felt tried and said he was going upstairs to lie down.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I am not even sure I believe it was Dawn that pushed him, I do not think she is strong enough.
I think it's pretty obvious Dawn thinks she is protecting who she thinks pushed Joe, probably thinking it's someone in her family.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
If she thinks it was Clemmie, unless she has superpowers, I don't think she has the strength.Quote:
Originally Posted by johntrevor
Noah said he saw someone running away, presumably he meant away from the house, which might mean someone who was not at the party. If it was someone who was at the party, they would sneak upstairs, then afterwards just come down again and mingle.
It actually showed Billy as the one running away, he had been hiding behind bushes, watching what was going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
noah saw billy that was shownQuote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
maybe clemmie and lucas teamed up
Of course, in soapland this would be possible but really, I do not believe two young kids could push an adult through a windowQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
They persuaded Joe to play 'leg and a wing' and threw him through the windowQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Why are the writers pushing this Joe and Dawn romance? Absolutely no chemistry at all.
i could buy joe and debbie, they had some chemistryQuote:
Originally Posted by katie hunter