Apparently not from the bin bag thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
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Apparently not from the bin bag thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
Next week or so will make interesting viewing :ninja:
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the show is going there but everything seems a bit contrived with the aftermath. I was crying along with Aaron during yesterday's ending of the show. I also love Laurel for having such a conscience, although it's been really annoying listening to her stress. The one good thing was the talk between Ruby and Aaron and even that became annoying. But I did love Bob and Cathy.
ruby telling aaron was good, confessing straight away to him
nice also to see the guilt kerry has for frank
I think that what bothered me most about the episode was Aaron turning on Ruby as if her action was about him. I love both characters. They've each lived through hell and found a way to survive. I love that Aaron went to Ruby rather than hurting himself, and I love how she was trying to help him to live in spite of it. But I didn't like the conflict.
I still think that everyone is going to get off, because everyone did something that lead to Anthony's death, just like Murder on the Orient Express. I suspect even more people will be coming forward with things that Anthony have done, with the police saying that these people have suffered enough.
But on soaps, secrets are never kept as secrets and I do believe that eventually Steph will learn the truth, even if she just does an Ancestry.com test or something simple and learns that she's not biologically related to the Dingles an that her DNA is significantly more than 50% Ruby's. I hope that she knows that this doesn't mark her and that she is an innocent in all this. However it won't be easy for Ruby because the nightmare will live on.
I loath Livesy and I thought that he was awful as normal.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
Livesy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis tanner
Aaron... his surname was Livesy (his Dad's name) before he became a DingleQuote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
The assumption is that Anthony has April, but it's possible that her change in personality was exacerbated because he did something to her beforehand - and may even be the person who gave her the lift.
I have seen no evidence to suggest Anthony had April. I cannot ever remember seeing any interaction between them. We do know that Anthony sexually abused Ruby, but I am not sure this means he has ever abused anyone else. I think it possible he never did. There has probably been studies into this but I cannot find any. Abusing children outside of the immediate family must carry a much higher risk of being caught. But then again cases like Rolf Harris where he abused children but not his own daughter, so it must vary with the individual. As to who gave April a lift, i don't think that was Anthony as I believe hhe has a jaguar and that car was a hatchback and looked smaller. I did think if may have been Scott, who is her uncle, but now I am not sure, as surely he would have contacted Marlon.by now, even if April did not want him to.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
yes i got the impression anthony only abused ruby and it was once, still a monster unless more is to come out
He first raped her when she was 14 and then again on her 16th birthday, when she said 'not again.' I don't know whether were other times, but got the feeling that it was ongoing. But I haven't heard that he raped other young girls. I was just surmising above. I never think of pedophilia as specific to a single person, but I am only trained in the school of crime shows on TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
oh i thought just once, i missed that, if he had done it to others or friends of ruby i assume it would have come out but ruby did not have contact for over 20 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
He raped her regularly, whether other girls were targeted we will probably find out once this whole story comes out in every detail, which it will with most of the villageers knowing but the main family members trying to keep it a secret...Quote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
I believe this to be correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
cain just casually walks into the cop shop to say he saw anthony in the village and that is that
Why would Cain go to the the Police Station and draw attention to himself, instead of waiting to see if they came back to him about the noise in the garage. With all his dealings with them, surely he would know better?Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I really do not think Manpreet would go straight to the police about noise in the garage. Maybe if it was every night for a week. Surely she would have sought out Cain first and complained directly to him. They are writing this to suit where they want the story to go, regardless of reality.
Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
so april left as pregnant, looked clean and had a charged phone for street living, letdown overall, timeline for this is all over the place
Was tonight's episode meant to be PC Swirling relating April''s story to Rhona and Marlon?Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I am wondering if they have rewritten the script, and making April pregnant was an after thought.
If April knew she was pregnant would she have been drinking so much, even if she did not want to keep the baby. April has had a fairly sheltered upbringing but even she cannot have been so niave as to the dangers of being a teenage runaway sleeping rough. With TV and social media it is almost impossible to be so niave nowadays.
The opening scene of her getting into the car did not ring true. The car stopped even though April was not hitching, then she got into the back seat without asking where it was going. Are we meant to take it that April ran away because she was pregnant or because Marlon was a "liar"? Good idea for a story, but poorly written.
How far along was she meant to be?
I'm confused too. We were led to believe that her anger was for Marlon not being open about her mother, and her belief that her mother chose death over her. Now she's in her 4th month, assuming that's right because the baby's kicking. So she had to know, but as you said, she was drinking pretty heavily while pregnant. Hopefully we'll learn more tomorrow.
It looked like her hot chocolate was stolen today and not her wallet, so I think she has a lot of story to go before Foy finds her.
why was the stabbed girl with april's purse and id taken to hotten not leeds
did manpreet have april on the pill, as marlon found in her room?Quote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
I assume that the stabber stole the purse and was then stabbed herself in HottonQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
was it not the friend, squat room mate robyn girl, artful dodgerQuote:
Originally Posted by Dennis tanner
Now the question arises "Who is the Daddy?" Was it one of April's new friends that we have never seen?
was april pregnant before finding out about donna so, she left a loving supportive home for about a month
I am convinced they are making this up as they go along.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
did anthony strike again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
I seriously doubt it. If he did as far as I am concerned that will be lazy writing.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
did arthur or cathy know about pregnant april and where is evan now as dawn jealous of gabby after joe
Drinking to try and lose the baby? Think Amy did something similar if I remember right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
Or was it that Tom King ?Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
It could be the only way to get Steph to know the truth without putting her own paternity issue in question.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I think by making April pregnant it makes it easier for her to return home. Being pregnant tops the hateful things she said to Marlon, so this allows her to return without having to address her accusations in as much detail. The pregnancy will push everything else into the background at least initially, because he loves her he will more concerned about her recovery and how she got herself into this situation in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
so april left as leo takes up too much attention, they always seem close siblings, got on well
good bonding scenes with aaron and ruby, i admire that she don't want to be a victim
So how did that girl get stabbed in the centre of Leeds and finish up in Hotten A&E
I want to buy Ruby's dress! I wish I knew of a site that identified where I could purchase it.
yes I'd like to know tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Dennis tanner