Looks like nothing will happen till the renewal of vows malarkyQuote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
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Looks like nothing will happen till the renewal of vows malarkyQuote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
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Originally Posted by Son of Cain
Joe, Jamie or Steve Merchant are all hinted online
I had forgotten these people existed. Personally I dislike when they bring back characters from the past as my memory is not good enough to remember when they refer to incidents that occured then. Eastenders have always been in the habit of doing this and now it is happening more frequently here in Emmerdale.I still think this is some plart of Kim's plan - a double double cross.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Yes me too, I lost interest in this pair around the time of the, Will digging his own grave so Kim could bury him alive, debacle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
Pure fan speculation which usually is wishful thinking... if it is either of them, I am surprised that it has not been revealed yet, rarely happens that a character returns without it being rumbled beforehand..Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
...and that Caleb is her step-dad and also her brother in law.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
Could save on Christmas and birthday cards and presents. On one card/present covers two relatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snagglepus
It could also explain why she has that extra toe that she always wondered about.
That's where Kim made her big mistake she should have filled in the grave so we and she and she could have forgotten he ever existed.Quote:
Originally Posted by johntrevor
Well iv'e always liked Kim up until then but that episode did it for me, so far fetched, not sure what the scriptwriters were thinking. Kim has always been very subltle in he revenge, that was so unlike her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
Kim has a quandry. She wants revenge but she doesn't want to be alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by johntrevor
That grave scene was more of a Halloween episode, just shown on another day.
I missed the start of the episode where Tom apparently tries to kill himself... how did he try?
I do not think you missed anything. Episode opened with bell ringing and guard striding thru prison saying "Code Red, THOMAS KING". Later Belle receives a phone call and says "What's happened - is it serious". We then see Jimmy, Amelia joined by Belle and Sam where Jimmy tells them Tom tried to kill himself. Seems Belle's phone call only told her he had been rushed to A& E. Cut to Tom in a hospital bed where a doctor tells him the lacerations are superficial and he will need to be assessed by a psychologist. Tom then got angry with the doctor because everyone knows. Seems odd that if he had given up on life that he would care about something like that. Pretty poor episode, action off screen, to save money ?.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
He "pretended" to get angry. As the doctor walked away Tom smirked to himself, because "everyone will know", knowing full well that would include Belle. So still doing his evil manipulation of Belle even from his hospital bed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
Thanks, I just saw the bit with the guards shouting so not missed anything. Cannot wait for Thursday ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
You definitely didn't miss anything. His wrists were bandaged, so it looks like he found a sharp object that he used to pretend that he was slitting his wrists, but he just made surface cuts without doing any real damage. I suspect you'd have deeper wounds from playing with a kitten.
I don't believe there were any actual cuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
I'm glad that Tom was lifted higher with the thought that he manipulated Belle into not showing up, because his fall will be that much greater.
I just wish that Angel were there to tell about his plan with his solicitor, to really drum home that this is repeated behavior and not with one woman.
I hope Kim has worked out what's going on, Will and his 'we get to live rent free' daughter deserve everything that's coming to them.
Looking forward to seeing the smile wiped off Toms face when he sees Belle in court.
is kim and the advisor playing will
OK but for what purpose ?Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Doubt it, Claire King was on This Morning or some other daytime programme and said there is a 3rd person involved but could not say anything else, obviouslyQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Could it be Caleb? His whole purpose in coming to Emmerdale was to bring down Kim, so he could take over what he thought was his, Home Farm, as Frank Tate was his father.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Caleb was a really interesting thought!
I was thinking that Kim was behind it until her interview. Now I'm wondering whether Jade has been branching out.
I was a bit disappointed in the trial, although I had predicted the outcome.
I wanted Charity and Cain to testify about the blood on the door and Belle's bandaged hand (have they made that correlation yet? They sure believed Tom's version at the time).
I wished the police had reopened the evidence for Vinny's attack, knowing what they know now.
I wanted Belle to talk about how any love for her family sent Tom into a rage so much so that he destroyed her mother's ashes.
I wanted discussion of the burglary and how there was no actual police report despite his insistence that he reported it and how the search of pawn shops didn't turn up those rings, until Tom miraculously found it.
I wanted them to discuss how Tom miraculously turned up wherever Belle was going. I wanted them to discuss Tom hitting Piper with his car and I wish that Rhona said that she wasn't working on Piper all night with Tom.
I wanted Angelica to discuss how Tom's solicitor came to her and how malicious Tom was with his response to her. I wanted the towns people discussing how they saw Tom violently dragging Amelia out of the house. Even the police saw that one, but Amelia said that Tom never hurt her. That's not true, and it was witnessed.
But even still, I thought it was a really good episode, although three years is definitely not enough, and we'll probably have him back on the show in that time to stir up more havoc.
I got a bit teary learning that Belle had been to a support group when I was all frustrated with her for sitting on a park bench. I read that the women in that group were real life abused women. I thought that to be a very well thought out culmination to the story.
Tom is guilty but only got 3 years, so out in 18 months, cannot believe it will end here. What next, escape? Or revenge in 18 months. Karl the foreman's logic was a bit strange. Thought he was not guilty, until he started going through the evidence with Heidi, then has doubts when they discuss the cameras as if he was hearing about them for the first time, but had already heard all the evidence in the court.
It is not over yet.
tom was too cool after the verdict going back to prison, has he another plan with his solicitor, thought he'd get a longer sentence
If this is like my American soaps, Tom will feign illness to be sent to the hospital and will escape from there. But I hope that this doesn't happen.
If his solicitor does appeal, I hope that they ultimately find the fake grave with an empty basket or one with an old boot in it and then Belle is reunited and brings Piper to court as further evidence beyond that presented in this trial.
Maybe it's my wishful thinking, but I'm happy with my little fantasy.
I enjoyed the episode but 3 years does seem a bit light. As others have said they missed quite a lot of evidence. Amelia denying that Tom had ever hurt her, Angelica's involvement, Tom selling the car, Belle's injuries after the barn fight. Wouldn't the Police have given evidence about Tom lying about the axe attack?
I thought the look Tom gave Belle at the end was quite ominous, I don't think it's over yet.
The side of the building was chopped down by an angry Tom! Surely there would be some evidence that he didn't just open the door. It was gone!Quote:
Originally Posted by katie hunter
And how about the time he locked her into her home and her life was put in danger and she couldn't escape?
Or the time she absolutely had to flee on a bus and the bus driver saw him coming after her.
There was so much that was missed.
This is what happens when you have a weeks trial condensed into 45 minutes. However, after the trial Belle refered to the fact that she had given evidence that same day. Wr were led to believe that it was all done and dusted the same day, even though they were late startingQuote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
yes i thought the detective would be there
I can imagine he will try to appeal but once Christmas Day is over, there will be more proof of his abusive behaviour so that will not go ahead. I hope he does not get early release for good behaviour but I agree, we have not seen the last of Tom King jr. even if it will be 2027/2028...Quote:
Originally Posted by katie hunter
I would assume that he would want to appealQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
a quick rushed exit for amelia, thought sam and lydia would not let esther go
Crap exit storyline as per.... even with enough time they cannot give characters a decent exit...Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Where was Noah? After all he did for Amelia and Esther he was not there to say bye-bye...
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Originally Posted by Perdita
I wonder if the reason for this is financial, that they have cut back on the number and quality of scriptwriters. In the past did they have more time to "think" about future stories and now do they just adopt the first thing that comes to mind and expand on it. Also why sometimes major story points happen off screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Block story telling probably means that they do not always have appropriate actors available, hence Noah was probly not available for Amelia's exit.