I agree, he looked like Sean alot during that episode lastnight, especially when he stormed out when Jane said it is best if he was to leaveQuote:
Originally Posted by Siobhan
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I agree, he looked like Sean alot during that episode lastnight, especially when he stormed out when Jane said it is best if he was to leaveQuote:
Originally Posted by Siobhan
I know - I have to be angry with him for what he did to Ian but I'm also sad and sorry for him. I wonder how Steven got into such a state. The question I keep asking myself is why? What possible reason could there be for what Steven has done? I mean even Pat and Jane knew he was not on good terms with Ian but they certainly did not suspect him to be Ian's stalker. And Ian - I'm very sorry for Ian. Though he is at times pathetic, he certainly does not deserve this and from his stepson of all people.
A really good episode last night. Aaron is a really good actor. That speech he had with Jane about her being young and may meet someone else,tactless as it was, it suggested to me that he himself likes Jane though of course Jane certainly wouldn't suspect that. It was strange when he was looking at her sleeping. If he really loved her though he would bring Ian back from wherever he's held him captive and get some help. Remember Tanya got through to Sean by saying that if he really cared for her he would leave her alone.
Good episode again lastnight, loved the bit with Roxie and Patrick that was cute, as was the bit with Dot & Honey.
Deano is daft for running off like that
Oh I though Honey was going into labour last night...
Steven is creepy, looking at Jane like that... can't wait for thursday
I can't wait for the stuff with Deano and co to end. I love the Fox girls but I can't stand Deano and Kevin. Deano is just an idiot.
Steven gets creepier. :cool:
Yeah. I can't wait till Thursday either. I wonder why Jane went all cold towards him since Monday. On Friday sghe warmed to him but since Monday she's kind of distant which is strange given that she has no idea Steven is her husband's stalker.
ok episode last night loved Patrick and Roxy scenes it was very sweet. I used to like Tanya's character but now she is organising the wedding she is becoming a pain calling Stacey her future daughter in law, what about Bradders real mother who Tanya cheated on with Max to begin with. Surely Stacey's mum, Charlie and Mo should be involved more with the organising. Stacey looked stunning in the dress and you could see Max wanted her. How ironic was it that Shirley (played by Linda Henry ex Yvonne from Bad Girls) was giving Deano advice on life behind bars. I really do hope Chelesa and Deano get a senetence btw still can't stand Chelesa and her awful sister Libby. Loving Steven he is so evil i can't believe her did to Ian, Lucy doesn't seem to care much that her dad is missing at least Peter is acting worried.
Snap!! I was thinking the same thing... I thought she was going to tell him not to go into the basement and watch out for Fenner :lol::lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Stacey's getting on my nerves at the moment. She's acting as though Max is the only one who should have a guilty conscience.
She shouted after him "how do you sleep at night" - she should be having just as many sleepless nights as him over it all in my opinion.
She always looks so sour faced and miserable. Surely Tanya can't be that stupid that she would fail to notice it whenever there's wedding stuff going on?
I agree with Max that Stacey is really selfish. Even Max is being mature about their past fling. Stacey isn't.
I wonder why Jane since Monday has been cold towards Steven siince she has no idea Steven is her husband's stalker. On Friday shewas pleasant to him though surprised at his unexpectedarival and his explanation about the phone being engaged and hitching a ride from Kent after travelling sounded plausible enough. After a day or two she shuns him and can't wait to get rid of him and yet he hasn't as far as Jane knows done anything wrong. Why the sudden switch?
it is to do with the kids.. she said herself, him been around is distracting the kids from the issue of their father missing...
I think she feels he is filling their heads with empty promises and stuff that it is not healthy for them
Oh I see, but in all fairness, isn't it good that they are not brooding over Ian's disappearance? I mean the arrival of a guest does break tension etc in the family and isn't it good to take your mind of your problems/worries for a bit?
Did Steven actually promise the twins anything? I can't remember. And can you really blame someone just for being charming and charismatic?
okay episode. I wish Kevin would follow Deans footsteps and run away. Chelsea is the only thing that makes this storyline even half decent imo.
Steven as strange as ever.
Stacey makes me sick and Max went too far with Lauren. What a nice bloke he is! :ninja:
max really lost it with Lauren.. but I thought she would have found out... actually I was wishing so this would stop but alas no!!! how much longer do we have to enjure this!!
I was so happy for Jane when she got the text.. .I know it was from Steven but it was nice to see her smile...
I can't wait till tonight. Yes even though the text was actually from Steven and not Ian it was still good that she was reassured. I don't believe Steven would actually kill anyone so I don't think Jane would be wrong in supposing Ian to be alive. By the way, why did Steven throw her mobile into the fire last night?
Oh no Carly is back :thumbsdow
Steven kissed her - wow. I thought for a second he was going to confess everything when he said he was the reason Ian left. I liked the scenes between them but because she thinks of him as a son she was quite shocked. She did say he could tell heranything which is why i suppose he did whast he didut he did apologise immediately. He always seems to put his foot in it with Jane though without meaning to.
I sort of thought the mobile was Ian's ???? Not Janes,, so Steven was basically DESTROYING evidence ???:searchme:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes
Mmm maybe. Despite being angry with him for what he did to Ian, I can't help feeling really sorry for him - especially tonight when he shocked Jane by kissing her. I think he does need help. I wuish Jane hadn't got angry though. A young boy having a crush onan oldr woman is the most natural thing in the world.
Lizzie what exactly did Steven do to Ian ??? I have been out of the country for a month ,, so fill me in pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...:o
It all began when Lucy was contacted online by some unknown person pretending to be her dead mum. She told Peter she was going to meet Cindy but Peter her brother was suspicious so told her dad Ian and stepmum Jane about it. Ian confiscated her laptop and wrote to the unknown person, pretending to be his daughter but the stranger did not fall for this. Then he began to get stalked. He got a wreath of flowers, a note with "Rest in Peace", an animal heart etc. He recieved texts and calls. The stranger could get in and out of the house - planted a book on insominia and all the rest of it. At first Ian thought his daughter was doing it, then his dead wife's sister. He accused his ownwife after ringing the mobile number that called him and discovering the mobile inher bag.
Hurt by his accusations, she told him to leave. He booked a trip to South Africa ahnd wrote to the stalker "Congratulations. You run my life. Ian" and the stalker wrote "Let's end this now. Meet me in the old pavilion in 20 minutes Cindy X" so he did. Following a series of clues he climbed up a derelict block of flats and got freaked out by a lptop playing music, a tailor's dummy on the balcony etc. Then he came to a room full of photyos of him and Cindy with his face crossed out. He broke down at which time the stranger entered the rom and locked the door and Ian said "It can't be". When the African hotel rang Jane to say Ian hadn't checked in and she found his passport she got frightened and told the police.
The stranger was revealed to be Steven Beale on Tuesday when Pat rang him to tell him all the news and he declared he was not in New Zealand but in London. Steven turned up in the house when Jane and Lucy were arguing like "a knight on a white charger", pretending to know nothing about what happened to Ian. He did regret his actions a little when Pat told him Ian always treated him as a son but he was quite unhinged. His legs were trembling and like the actor said - normal one minute, unhuinged the next - so unpredictable. Jane wanted him to leave once as the twins could not accept their dad's disappearance while he was around but changed her mind when she saw the strong bond between Steven and Lucy.
Steven assured Lucy that Cindy was dead and that some mental person was mesing with her head. He got a job in the cafe but developed a strong crush on Jane, upsetting her by reminding her she was still young and might find another man. She obviously didn't realise what he meant though the audience did. When the police questioned him about Ian he got nervous and sent a text supposedly from Ian to calm down Jane and stop the police investigations but unfortunately for him the police said they couldn't close the case until Ian returned. By yesterday Jane grew torely on Steven but when trying to get him to open up about his problems, Steven misread the signals and tried it on with her. She was appalled when he kissed her.
He threw his mobile in to the fire because the police said they would be able to trace the call, so he destroyed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes
Thanks for the clarification. I was quite sorry for Steven yesterday - he wasn't thinking and he did apologise straight away.
Seeing it again I think Jane was a bit stupid to put her arms/hands on him like she did. I know that isn't an invitation to kiss her but by doing that she sent a signal that a mixed up person like Steven would take the wrong way.
That's why she shouldn't be angry with him. She probably thought of him as a son which is why he did thatbut he obviously made a mistake and he did apologise. I would only ask him to leave if I thought he was dabgerous in some way. I would probablty be a bit stuned if I were Jane and he kissed me but realising he is a bit uhinged I would be gentle and patient with him - anger doesn't help in these situations.
But Jane doesn't realise yet that Steven is unhinged does she? Therefore she's got no reason to treat him with kid gloves.
Granted - Jane doesn't know he's unhinged yet but in that case, why is she so shocked? Lots of young lads have crushes on older women. That's not uncommon. I know he shouldn't have come on to a married woman but he made a mistake and he did apologise. Anyhow - sane or unhinged I would if i were Jane have understood Steven's feelings for what they were - an adolescent crush and would have reminded him that I am older than he, married etc and just got him to promise not to do it againand that if he did I would have no choice but to ask him to leave but I wouldn't get angry about it.
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Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes
Jane has had a lot to cope with, her main focus is on what has happened to Ian, looking after the children and generally keep things ticking over - she has enough on her plate, so why should she have understood his feelings or what he did?! :rolleyes:
He took advance of a situation, he probably doesnt have a crush on her anyway, he just wants to cause more pain for Ian, by sleeping with her, thats probably his true motivation.
I know that Jane has a lot to cope with but I can't believe Steven would just use her to get at Ian. It's Ian he has a problem with. He seems to be fine with the others. Besides he has Ian locked up. If he really wanted to hurt Ian he would surely kiss Jane infront of him. I know he took advantage of that situation but I'm sure that was unintentional though Jane wouldn't see it that way. He misunderstood. He thought Jane was comming on to him so he kissed her but he apologised straight away. I think Pat would probably understand better since Pat knows him better (he is a stranger to Jane) and Pat doesb't have so much to cope with a Jane does. I'm not blaming Jane. I just said I would deal with the situation differently that's all.
He is misunderstood?! :eek: He can see the pain that he is causing, and yet he is happily living under the same roof as Jane and the other children, watchiing them go through the daily stress of not knowing what has happened to Ian, when he is responsible for it!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes
Just think back to all the sick things he has done, why would you find it so hard to believe that he would use Jane to get at Ian?
I agree that what he did to Ian is sick and that it is outrageous of him to stay with Jane, Peter and Lucy when he himself caused their pain but it would be dull if they showed him as completely badd. I don't believe he is. Of course if he really loved Jane he would fetch Ian back from that flat and confess all to the police. He seemed to repent a little last Friday but not enough to confess. I think he does have a crush on Jane and the kiss was just because he misread the signals - that would show he is not completely bad and has some good in him - just gets things wrong as Pat said - yes i know you will say Pat doesn't know what he did to Ian but I think that mistake with the kiss was totally seperate from his sick vendetta against Ian. I think that was genuine. I did not say by the way that he is misunderstood. I just said he misunderstood as in he misunderstood/mistread Jane's signals.
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Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes
If he loved Jane, which he doesnt, then why would he bring Ian back? It would suit him better that Ian never returned! Moreover, he loves the twins supposedly, and yet he hasnt returned Ian or handed himself in, despite seeing first hand the devastation he is causing!!! He is one sick and twisted character....:thumbsdow
BTW dont you think he was totally out of order for try it on with Jane, when she is feeling very low and vulnerable, irrespective of how he felt? Also Jane is Ian's wife! The man he hates!!! Surely coming on to her would have added to his plan of revenge on Ian too?
If that's the way you want to look at it - his kissing Jane to hurt Ian then that's fine. That is your view. I agree that it was wrong for him to come onto Jane at that particular time and definitely wrong to come onto a married woman but I still think he misreasd the signals. She was talking to him as a son and when she put her hands on his shoulders and held his face - I suppose he just acted without thinking but he was quick to apologise and I doubt his apology would have come that quickly if he were just putting on an act or trying to further his revenge on Ian. I agree he doesn't love Jane, it is just a crush. He seemed to repent on Friday but he doesn't repent enough to hand himself in or bring back Ian so he loves the twins but not enough to put himself at risk.
He did seem a bit uncomfortable on Monday which is why he told Lucy some psycho was pretending to be Cindy and their mum is in fact dead. I'm not convinced he would be spilling milk etc around Jane if he didn't fancy her a little and if it were part of his sick vendetta against Ian. Besides if someone is unhinged, you hve to take that into account though I agree that he must take responsbility for his actions.
I really thought he was going to confess everything but it looks like ti will be a good week next week then
I thought the same but how can you tell someone something like that? I don't think he had the guts. He didn't know how else to handle the situation other than to act on his crush on Jane. I am spasmodically compassionate towards him. I was last Friday and this Friiday and on Monday but at the same time I am angry with him for what he has done to Ian and how he can stand to live with Ian's family, knowing he is responsible for their sufferings.
Yeah, I like the character, but I'm quite angry with him for that too. I can't believe he didn't bother to shut the door behind him which caused Chips to go missing, even though he was worried about being caught for sending that text to Jane. It wasn't as if they were going to set out to trace the sender immediately.
For him to confess to everything would be too big a change in the character, I think. He ran away from what he'd done when he sent the poison pen letters, after all.
I know - but he was young then so nobody prosecuted. I agree it would be too big a change to confess. Yes I am surprised he didn't shut the gate but that was just irresponsibility. I think now, watching the omnibus, he burnt the phone he used to send the text so even if the police took Jane's mobile to trace which one sent it to her (I suppose the police can overcome the caller witheld their number thing) they couldn't because it would have been destroyed.
Yeah, I'm assuming he knew that would prevent a trace from being done, and so that is why he went off to do it. If he knew he was going to do that though, I can't believe he didn't shut the door though as someone might think it was a strange thing for him to do if they saw him leaving the house.
I can't see him really talking about anything major though; he locked himself in the bathroom initially in order to avoid having to immediately explain why he sent the poison pen letters.
Why is it strange to leave the house? I'm sure pople would have thought he just forgot to shut the gate as he had things on his mind. Remember that it has crossed nobody's mind that he is Ian's secret tormenter. Did he lock himself in the bathroom when revealed as the poison pen author? Cant remember. That was ages ago.