The cake went down like a lead balloon.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
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The cake went down like a lead balloon.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
The looks on her face tells me that she does know and she certainly knows that he deliberately pushed the cake on the floor and deliberately scalded herQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
I was wishing that Rhonda stormed out of there in an angry huff and ran over Tom. And in a blind panic, she backed up and drove over him again.
who did the cooking tom or belle, delicious menu
None of the cast I reckonQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I turned it off at part two as I thought something had gone wrong with my stream when it went back to the beginning.
When I watched it later on catch up I was puzzled when it did it again and I was seeing bits I didn't remember from part one.
Confused dot com.
I had the same problem, I thought it had somehow rewound itself and went back to the beginning again. Then I looked at the progress bar and saw it was half way, so wondered if it was a fault at the broadcast end, and they were a broadcasting from the beginning again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snagglepus
I think it was meant to show the event from two people's point of view, but not sure whose, presumably Tom and Belle. Not very well done, I thought. Will need to watch again.
I realised what was going on after reading about it saying it was being from 2 different perspectives, and noticing Belle was wearing different clothes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
I found the episode powerful in that we had one couple with a loud disagreement, albeit one with much love, that isn't an abusive scenario, but rather a severe breakdown in communication, and that is what everyone sees as a bad marriage, and then we have Belle and Tom who put on a good and happy front, and everyone thinks they are a happy couple - right before Tom gives Belle burns by holding her hand under the steaming water. What a sicko.
I found that beginning very confusing, as did the rest of you. It almost seemed like a preview scene followed by the show, but in hindsight there was a different point of view and insertions when shown again. I wish that the presentation was a bit more obvious, but it's what was.
The episode was painful to watch. I know that Tom was like a pressure cooker going into the party, and it kept getting more and more frightening as I was anticipating what was to come.
We only saw that Belle had changed her clothes because the second half started at a point in time before the first half did. Personally I did not think it added anything to show the same story twice, except perhaps confusion. If we saw the parts that were added in the second half, first time around, I think it would be even more powerful. It seemed to me that the program makers got carried away trying to make it more "arty". On the plus side the scriptwriters got to write a shorter script by showing the same scenes twice, admittedly from a different viewpoint. If others found it more powerful, each to their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by johntrevor
Wondering if Tom is in some way connected to Lachlan?
We also had Yorkshire's laziest Vet with Yorkshire's most useless beauticianQuote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
I missed the bit where Tom returned Belle's rings.. how did he explain he got them?
In the opening scene, he said the police rang yesterday morning and said "Burglars must have dropped them off at some random pawn shop". Did not say how the police actually found them. But it's good to know there is so little crime, that the police have time to go checking "random pawn shops".Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
I've been shipping Mary and Suzy, but I'm now so annoyed with how Suzy cut Belle off when she was obviously in agony, yesterday. How blind could she be? Belle was at that table practically screaming for help and Suzy just changed the subject and walked away.
I know that the show was going for how Belle is silent about what she is going through, a common sign of abused women, but I saw her breaking down at that table.
So now I believe that Mary deserves better, even if that relationship is a non-issue for the moment.
For someone as self-righteous as Claudette, she's sure raised a messed up family. Poor Nicky.
But I was having fun with Kerry turning the tables on Eric.
I hope that Lydia didn't unconsciously plant a seed in psycho Tom about a baby vs the dog. I still think that Tom is going to run over Piper and blame it on Belle for not watching him.
Belle could easily find out that it's a total lie. Will she bother ?????Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
another crash not shown, nicky was well steamed, booze should smell from him and naughty ethan
Without doubt. It should be so obvious, and it seemed as though he cleaned up without any cuts on his face showing. He looked too cleaned up. It was hard to believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Caleb really laid into Nicky before he left. Poor Nicky. He was a stabilizing force, or as much as can be, between Caleb and Ruby. If he doesn't recover, I think they will be more at odds than ever.
When are Caleb and Ruby ever not at odds?Quote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
It's their love language. Not one that I'd want, but it obviously works for them because they keep coming back for more. I actually think that if one gave up their 'passion,' the other wouldn't feel they care anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
as dawn isn't around over sick evan, you'd think rose would live elsewhere
I am so so glad that the police knew that Nicky wasn't driving. Ethan's slowly having a breakdown. I'm so annoyed at him. It's a shame he's so handsome.
I loved the talk that Kim had with Lydia. Kim is hard as nails, but I just love her when she doles out advice and acts as a friend to others. I was rather taken aback when she chastised Lydia for having it out with Rose, so glad when she apologized. I have a soft spot for Lydia.
Who would have ever thought that Kim would become The Sage?
Nice posting. I don't believe that Ethan is a bad person. He just panickedQuote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
Loved Kerry getting her own back on Pollard. I think deep down even he was impressed with the Geordie trollop. I just love Ruby, Beth Cordingly amazing in the role.
I hope they are not expecting us to feel sorry for Kerry.Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Is it now official, that Kerry and her dreadful daughter, were never involved in Frank's death? The recent scene with Tracey and Kerry in the shop, showed no animosity towards Kerry. If I was in Tracey's place I would never speak another word to Kerry, in fact I would have reported her to the police. Why does Amy live in a place, or Kerry return there, when there is still a chance that their involvement in Frank's death could be revealed?
Official Frank's death never happened?
Did they ever became aware of Amy and Kerry's involvement in the fire starting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
As I recall they did know, but during an argument Kerry fell over, or was pushed, hit her head, and was in a coma for a while. Kerry blackmailed them not to say anything or she would go to the police and say she was attacked. Worse part was the money they stole was charity money for a children's hospital.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Those were some nice scenes between Moira and Ruby. Beth Cordingly has some really huge acting chops. She's so beautiful but isn't afraid to get dirty or ugly.
I am so glad that Charles called the police. It's a bit ironic after his own secrets, but it's the only way for Ethan to move forward. I'm just surprised that he directly called the police rather than calling an attorney (or what the equivalent is in the UK) to have them make the connection.
When you make confession to a priest it's supposed to be in cofidence. Useless priest.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
As for fraudster Frank, it was an accident
Lawyer or Solicitor is the equivalent name for attorney in UKQuote:
Originally Posted by ccahill2
Ethan did not confess to a priest, he confessed to his father. Pretty sure Charles is a Angican vicar, not a Catholic priest, so the confidence of the confessional probably does not apply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis tanner
Frank's death may have been an accident, in that they did not set out to kill him, but it was still an unlawful act that happened during the furtherance of a crime. Probably would be seen as involuntary manslaughter, or unlawful act manslaughter both of which carry custodial sentences, and the dreadful mother and daughter were quite happy to see someone else get the blame.
Good post.Well saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
ethan choosing to now live in a barn
ella has to be connected to meena
vinnie has money, he should travel the word, get outside of emmerdale to meet new people
Get outside of Emmerdale, are you kidding, is that even possible. Did you ever watch "Under the Dome".Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
All vicars are priestsQuote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
Fair enough. Can we stop them being refered to as murderers then ???Quote:
Frank's death may have been an accident, in that they did not set out to kill him, but it was still an unlawful act that happened during the furtherance of a crime. Probably would be seen as involuntary manslaughter, or unlawful act manslaughter both of which carry custodial sentences, and the dreadful mother and daughter were quite happy to see someone else get the blame.
All vicars may be priests, but not all priests take confession. Ethan was not speaking to Charles as a priest in a confessional, so should have no expectation of confidentiality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis tanner
I cannot recall if I have ever referred to them as murderers, usually I say they were responsible for his death.
ethan is very clean from staying in a barn
AcceptedQuote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
Many do thoughQuote:
I cannot recall if I have ever referred to them as murderers, usually I say they were responsible for his death.
Maybe it's because I was a newer viewer who didn't know the history of the characters, but I still have a harshness to Charles for planting the necklace on his father, who died with everyone believing he was a thief.
Maybe it's with that lesson learned that he turned Ethan in, but it all came across very hypocritical to me.
I don't know why Suni hasn't told Ruby and Caleb how heroic Nicky was, racing to come to save him from those who attacked him. I suppose it has to linger so the story could drag on and they won't realize that Ethan was helping him to save Suni.