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While the causes of homosexuality have not been definitively explained, there is overwhelming evidence of a biological basis for sexual orientation that is programmed into the brain before birth based on a mix of genetics and prenatal conditions, none of which the fetus chooses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
It is highly unlikely that someone, who up till now has shown nothing but strong heterosexual tendencies like Carla, would suddenly become gay.
I did not know that .. I agree, Carla has never shown any signs so why are they going down this line now?Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Sex sells, I guess and of course, we have not seen a lesbian relationship for a while...
Back in the day when Parkerman and I were writing fantasy storylines about the soaps we could never have imagined that the luvvies would have taken our ideas on board and expanded them. Quelle surprise!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Constables do not investigate murders...end ofQuote:
Originally Posted by alan45
Sergeants do deal with domestic murders where the offenders are immediately known
Inspectors or above deal with undetected murders
Perhaps Greater Manchester Police, the 3rd biggest force in the country don't have enough inspectors.
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Originally Posted by Perdita
It is virtually the same line they went down it Emmerdale with Charity and Vanessa, altho' I found this hard to believe, I think it was a better fit with your theory that victims of abuse might turn to a same sex relationship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
I have known and worked with many gay people and not one of them ever told me they chose to be gay.
Any more twists to come? Or is this the end of the who killed Joel mystery? I still think Kit is involved somehow.
After tonight, one thing we can be absolutely 100% certain of and that is that Max did not kill Joel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Cain
Lauren???Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Am I being thick? Why ?Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
How would he have been able to pick up that stone ?Quote:
Originally Posted by LouiseP
Because he confessed to doing it and in the mind of the Corrie producer and scriptwriters that is code for he certainly didn't do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LouiseP
Dee-Dee also confessed to killing him...?Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Because they have not finished dragging out. Plenty more mileage left.Quote:
Originally Posted by LouiseP
I can't get my head around being fed all these flashback pieces of a jigsaw.
I would like to see an episode of the night that Joel was killed that contains all these pieces in correct timeline so I can understand the full picture of what went on.
You and me both. Programme makers of drama love a flash back. They seem to think it adds something. Sometimes they are right, but sometimes all it adds is confusion, especially if it is not in time order. I have long lost interest in who killed Joel or why. In some ways I feel sorry for them, making all this effort, when I, and I sure many viewers do not care any more. There is a fine line between dragging things out for dramatic effect, and dragging out to boredom and indifference. I think they crossed that line a long time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snagglepus
Those flashbacks are ok if you just have one or two but with nearly all of the residents being in the frame this is rather an overload
where is gail?
Either upstairs or out shopping.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
She can't be bothered turning up to the studio to take part in her own leaving story. They could/should have killed her off weeks ago, said she got run over by a bus coming home from her art class. No one has missed her.
She's in hiding after killing Joel.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Eagerly awaiting the flashback.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis tanner
It would actually make more sense than a lot of the explanations being proposed. If she saw Joel overpowering Max, she would come to the rescue of her grandson and it would be a good way of writing her out of the programme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis tanner
Oh dear, do you think I am becoming too much like a Corrie scriptwriter.....
Sharon Marshall said on This Morning that the speculations on social media are mainly wrong so it could very well be Gail... :ninja:
probably a damp squib ending with one of his past girls or parents killing him, finishing him offQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
I reckon, the murderer is someone who is unimportant and not going to be a character who will stay.
Who do I think?
BETSY!!!
No I think it's OK, I doubt you have a vivid enough imagination for the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
was it roy
I need to know how Dead Joel managed to get inside that black plastic bag
The twists have not finished yet. Sorry to be the bearer of such bad news.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis tanner
dee dee gave it up and now is having another joel kid
max manipulated again now by lauren the apple don't fall far right 😁 honestly don't care if innocent max is banged up
Gee thanks for that. Remind me not to watch it.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Tonight was pitiful.
Going by the flash-backs he is not totally innocent.... but I hope we do not need to wait until Christmas to find out who wrapped Joel up like a Christmas present...Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I don't care if the whole cast is banged up along with the producer and the scriptwriters.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner
Did I miss the bit about the plastic bag, when did we see this, or did someone just mention it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
was joel found in a body bag or suit bag in the river? honestly im not sure I remember this on screen or it talked about online but I do tend to switch off if uninterested
Personally I think the use of so many flashbacks are just the writers excuse for having so many holes in the storyline. DC Kit is as believable as a CID officer as Dopey David is as a hair Stylist. The whole storyline strikes me as scriptwriters who came up with a storyline and got bored with it halfway through. I hope they forget about Max and he rots in the cell and they only remember about him when Richard Hillman walks into Weatherfield Nick and confesses to the murder of his lovechild Joel and asks for 15 other murders to be taken into consideration. Joel is then discovered as having changed his sex and name to Jolene and living with Mavis Riley in Cartmel.
I thought his head was under the water and we just saw his coat/jacket on the surface, that might have looked like a bag of some sort.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I think that they forget they are telling a story, which should be told as simply as possible, so that we can all understand it without too much effort. Instead they get too hung up on trying to be arty, adding all those flashbacks and twists most which can see through, so fail to inject the suspense and drama they are seeking.Quote:
Originally Posted by alan45
He was all wrapped up when he was floating down the river, that what it looked like to me...Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I have looked at the scene a few times, hard to see, looks to me as if there is a body bag... do not think it is a puffer jacket as some suggest on social media.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN2Ah6O7WPEQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann