Eastender current episode discussion IV

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Originally Posted by tammyy2j

I think in some ways Bobby is relieved to be able to be honest

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Yes, that's the impression I got too.

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Originally Posted by storyseeker1

Do Mick and Linda know about Bobby? There's been so many that I've lost count.

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They've only just found out since Bobby's very public confession. They weren't in on the cover-up.

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Originally Posted by tammyy2j

How has Bobby still got the jewellery box or know where it is?

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The last time I remember seeing the jewellery box was when it turned out to be the mysterious present under the Christmas tree. Perhaps Bobby took it and hid it? I hope it's true he knows where it is because I can't imagine Ian being able to protect him if the police get hold of it.

Jane buried Lucy's phone and wallet under the floorboards, and Phil later handed them over to the police.

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

They've only just found out since Bobby's very public confession. They weren't in on the cover-up.

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Mick has had his suspicions though from something Ian said to him a long time ago...though I can't remember what it was he said now!

P.S. Inspector Marsbar was never convinced of Max's guilt as far as I remember. Maybe she plays a role in all this?

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Originally Posted by parkerman

Mick has had his suspicions though from something Ian said to him a long time ago...though I can't remember what it was he said now!

P.S. Inspector Marsbar was never convinced of Max's guilt as far as I remember. Maybe she plays a role in all this?

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I rememember that too but also can´t remember what made Mick suspicious ... and also about Inspector Marsbar

mick when stopping ian taking off with bobby said you've known since your wedding night, mick and ian had an exchange that night about ian known who killed Lucy

so now mick and linda added to bobby cover up list

mick when stopping ian taking off with bobby said you've known since your wedding night, mick and ian had an exchange that night about ian known who killed Lucy

so now mick and linda added to bobby cover up list

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Originally Posted by parkerman

Mick has had his suspicions though from something Ian said to him a long time ago...though I can't remember what it was he said now!

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It was at the end of the live episode. Ian met Mick in the street and said something along the lines that he knew who killed Lucy. Mick questioned him about it a few episodes later but Ian made some excuse to placate Mick. I'm pretty sure Bobby wasn't named.

I think Mick put two and two together when Bobby confessed and realised immediately that he was telling the truth, whereas everyone else (apart from Stacey) dismissed what Bobby said because it made no sense to them.

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Originally Posted by parkerman

P.S. Inspector Marsbar was never convinced of Max's guilt as far as I remember. Maybe she plays a role in all this?

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I hope so! :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by lizann

so now mick and linda added to bobby cover up list

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I think it's premature to say that, and anyway it's moot now the police have heard Bobby's confession.

However, suppose that surprising twist hadn't occurred: Mick and Linda have only known for a couple of hours at most. I think most people - on hearing something so shocking about a friend's child - would at least wait to confront their friend about it before going to the police. They don't strike me as the types who would keep quiet long term (they're not criminals or easily intimidated), but it looks likely we'll never find out now.

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

I think it's premature to say that, and anyway it's moot now the police have heard Bobby's confession.

However, suppose that surprising twist hadn't occurred: Mick and Linda have only known for a couple of hours at most. I think most people - on hearing something so shocking about a friend's child - would at least wait to confront their friend about it before going to the police. They don't strike me as the types who would keep quiet long term (they're not criminals or easily intimidated), but it looks likely we'll never find out now.

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they don't have to go the police but mick told denny shut up and saw and heard ben calling stacey a liar and threaten her and did nothing so aiding beales by covering for bobby to me

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

I think it's premature to say that, and anyway it's moot now the police have heard Bobby's confession.

However, suppose that surprising twist hadn't occurred: Mick and Linda have only known for a couple of hours at most. I think most people - on hearing something so shocking about a friend's child - would at least wait to confront their friend about it before going to the police. They don't strike me as the types who would keep quiet long term (they're not criminals or easily intimidated), but it looks likely we'll never find out now.

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they don't have to go the police but mick told denny shut up and saw and heard ben calling stacey a liar and threaten her and did nothing so aiding beales by covering for bobby to me

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Originally Posted by lizann

they don't have to go the police but mick told denny shut up and saw and heard ben calling stacey a liar and threaten her and did nothing so aiding beales by covering for bobby to me

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That's true, I'd forgotten about that. However, I still want to give him the benefit of the doubt because I think it's possible he'd want to stop rumours spread until he'd spoken to Ian, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'd go along with the cover up.

They've sabotaged plenty of other characters for this storyline of course, but I like to think DTC would stop at doing so to the characters he based on his parents.

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

That's true, I'd forgotten about that. However, I still want to give him the benefit of the doubt because I think it's possible he'd want to stop rumours spread until he'd spoken to Ian, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'd go along with the cover up.

They've sabotaged plenty of other characters for this storyline of course, but I like to think DTC would stop at doing so to the characters he based on his parents.

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mick knows bobby is guilty ian's silence and trying to run off with him gave it away plus lee was taken in and questioned about lucy's death

mick owes ian nothing, stacey at least believed linda over dean and helped her

ian or jane did nothing for mick and linda during that time

mick could have thrown ben out and told him to stop but did nothing instead just told denny to shut up

dtc ruining so many characters for the bobby killer storyline only saving part of it is bobby himself

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

That's true, I'd forgotten about that. However, I still want to give him the benefit of the doubt because I think it's possible he'd want to stop rumours spread until he'd spoken to Ian, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'd go along with the cover up.

They've sabotaged plenty of other characters for this storyline of course, but I like to think DTC would stop at doing so to the characters he based on his parents.

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mick knows bobby is guilty ian's silence and trying to run off with him gave it away plus lee was taken in and questioned about lucy's death

mick owes ian nothing, stacey at least believed linda over dean and helped her

ian or jane did nothing for mick and linda during that time

mick could have thrown ben out and told him to stop but did nothing instead just told denny to shut up

dtc ruining so many characters for the bobby killer storyline only saving part of it is bobby himself

Another good point lizann makes is that Mick didn't step in when Ben threatened Stacey - and neither did anyone else for that matter. I thought that was wrong at the time, although considering no one helped the half naked Abi when Ben dragged her up on stage, I shouldn't really be surprised. Perhaps the writers consider that to be acceptable behaviour? :searchme: :angry:

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Originally Posted by lizann

mick knows bobby is guilty ian's silence and trying to run off with him gave it away plus lee was taken in and questioned about lucy's death

mick owes ian nothing, stacey at least believed linda over dean and helped her

ian or jane did nothing for mick and linda during that time

mick could have thrown ben out and told him to stop but did nothing instead just told denny to shut up

dtc ruining so many characters for the bobby killer storyline only saving part of it is bobby himself

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I agree with a lot of what you say, but I'll repeat myself and point out they've only known about Bobby killing Lucy for a very short time, so I think it's hard to extrapolate from that what they'd do long term.

I hope they wouldn't become part of a cover up because they're written as decent characters and it would spoil them for me. Everyone else involved either desperately loves Bobby (or Ian in Sharon's case), was intimidated into it, or has long forgotten what morals are. I can see how the writers justified it to themselves (although I find the whole cover up ludicrous), but I can't see how they could for Mick and Linda. Perhaps it's just me... :searchme:

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

I agree with a lot of what you say, but I'll repeat myself and point out they've only known about Bobby killing Lucy for a very short time, so I think it's hard to extrapolate from that what they'd do long term. I hope they wouldn't become part of a cover up because they're written as decent characters and it would spoil them for me.

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you could be right daz but i am disgusted with mick for shutting denny up and not throwing ben out, i know max wasn't popular for his relationships with young girls

also is shirley all good with ben now? she didn't even try and stop him with stacey knowing what he did to heather

i think we might see linda ask sharon

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

I agree with a lot of what you say, but I'll repeat myself and point out they've only known about Bobby killing Lucy for a very short time, so I think it's hard to extrapolate from that what they'd do long term. I hope they wouldn't become part of a cover up because they're written as decent characters and it would spoil them for me.

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you could be right daz but i am disgusted with mick for shutting denny up and not throwing ben out, i know max wasn't popular for his relationships with young girls

also is shirley all good with ben now? she didn't even try and stop him with stacey knowing what he did to heather

i think we might see linda ask sharon

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Originally Posted by lizann

i think we might see linda ask sharon

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I hope so. I'd like to see that conversation. Linda knows how it feels to be denied justice so I really hope she's disgusted with Sharon and the rest of them.

abi should go even darker and get revenge for max on beales and mitchells

A really good dark episode. Letitia Dean just gets better and better. I have no sympathy for Ian. It would serve him right if Jane croaked it. I thought Stacey was great tonight. Can't wait for Abi getting whats coming to her.

Keeble is back. :cheer: We just need Marsden back and my life is complete. Walford's very own Cagney and Lacey.

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Originally Posted by flappinfanny

A really good dark episode. Letitia Dean just gets better and better. I have no sympathy for Ian. It would serve him right if Jane croaked it. I thought Stacey was great tonight. Can't wait for Abi getting whats coming to her.

Keeble is back. :cheer: We just need Marsden back and my life is complete. Walford's very own Cagney and Lacey.

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why abi as does she still think max is guilty, sharon disappointed me as in beale house she wanted bobby caught but then changed in police station

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Originally Posted by flappinfanny

A really good dark episode. Letitia Dean just gets better and better. I have no sympathy for Ian. It would serve him right if Jane croaked it. I thought Stacey was great tonight. Can't wait for Abi getting whats coming to her.

Keeble is back. :cheer: We just need Marsden back and my life is complete. Walford's very own Cagney and Lacey.

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why abi as does she still think max is guilty, sharon disappointed me as in beale house she wanted bobby caught but then changed in police station

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Originally Posted by lizann

abi should go even darker and get revenge for max on beales and mitchells

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And be the most dangerous villain EastEnders has ever seen?

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Originally Posted by Rear window

And be the most dangerous villain EastEnders has ever seen?

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She'd have to go it some to beat Gavin after all he's done.....oh, hang on a minute.....

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Originally Posted by lizann

why abi as does she still think max is guilty, sharon disappointed me as in beale house she wanted bobby caught but then changed in police station

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I think seeing Bobby only wanting to see his mum Jane in the police station melted Sharon's heart as a mum of Denny who is around the same age as Bobby

I do think time has come now for all to stop covering for Bobby

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Originally Posted by parkerman

She'd have to go it some to beat Gavin after all he's done.....oh, hang on a minute.....

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and talk of him he will appear, denny sick off all bobby cover up as am I

great talk linda, sharon chasing stacey and no blinks an eye to wonder why or ask

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Originally Posted by parkerman

She'd have to go it some to beat Gavin after all he's done.....oh, hang on a minute.....

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and talk of him he will appear, denny sick off all bobby cover up as am I

great talk linda, sharon chasing stacey and no blinks an eye to wonder why or ask

Gavin is getting worried that Bobby might steal his greatest villain unhung reputation, that's why he had to come back.

Sharon wetting herself that shes stuffed if a whole pub know the killers identity. no .. oh wait ..its just Stacey who will leak that fact ???????? Good on Stacy taking her down in the pub.

Phil and Ian best buddies!! both not grasping that this is the end game, Bob is spilling like a super tanker on the rocks (Ian being in the interview at the back thou was farcical)

Babe... wanted to be caught of course, the women's sold babies whats a little light blackmail to her but fun, but Im not sure messing with a family who can legally dispose of bodies is a good move.

Sharon wetting herself that shes stuffed if a whole pub know the killers identity. no .. oh wait ..its just Stacey who will leak that fact ???????? Good on Stacy taking her down in the pub.

Phil and Ian best buddies!! both not grasping that this is the end game, Bob is spilling like the Exon Valdeez (Ian being in the interview at the back thou was farcical)

Babe... wanted to be caught of course, the women's sold babies whats a little light blackmail to her but fun, but Im not sure messing with a family who can legally dispose of bodies is a good move.

ian in the interview room with bobby was a complete farce and the killing box kept in the new school locker

thought cristine / jane's mama was a tad ott but she did call out bobby and ian

who was kathy on phone to, not gavin, michelle or peter was it?

ian in the interview room with bobby was a complete farce and the killing box kept in the new school locker

thought cristine / jane's mama was a tad ott but she did call out bobby and ian

who was kathy on phone to, not gavin, michelle or peter was it?

Yay! Bobby's almost certainly going down! Even Keeble's listening to him now. :cheer:

Notice he's saying all the right words but hasn't even shed one tear for his mum... :wall:

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Originally Posted by lizann

sharon chasing stacey and no blinks an eye to wonder why or ask

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They didn't need to ask! :D

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Originally Posted by Splashy

Sharon wetting herself that shes stuffed if a whole pub know the killers identity. no .. oh wait ..its just Stacey who will leak that fact ???????? Good on Stacy taking her down in the pub.

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That's the Stacey I know and love! :clap:

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Originally Posted by Splashy

Phil and Ian best buddies!! both not grasping that this is the end game, Bob is spilling like the Exon Valdeez (Ian being in the interview at the back thou was farcical)

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:lol:

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Originally Posted by lizann

who was kathy on phone to, not gavin, michelle or peter was it?

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I thought it could be Peter. He's the closest person to Ian who's not currently on the scene.

I thoroughly enjoyed Jane's mum's verbal mauling of Ian! :cheer:

I think Stacey's been great! Pulling no punches with Sharon.

I thought the Ian to Bobby line about Jane will come bouncing back like a ball.
That wouldn't be a hockey ball would it? :-0

what a let down final episode for a good week

lauren and steven now a couple?

what a let down final episode for a good week

lauren and steven now a couple?

I wish I hadn't known Steven was coming back with Lauren. I'd have enjoyed that twist.

I was worried all episode about Bobby being left alone in the house with poor Dot... :eek:

It seems very unrealistic that a child who's been charged with GBH and is being investigated for murder is allowed to walk free (although to be fair I've no idea what would happen to a kid in that position in real life). Surely he would have been assessed by a police psychiatrist at the very least? :searchme:

I thought Ian's explanation of events to Christian was a good scene. I noticed the latter didn't interrogate Ian about Max however. Do the writers seriously believe most people wouldn't be incredulous that someone they loved allowed an innocent person to be jailed for life, or are they just trying to sweep it under the carpet?

I also don't believe Abi wouldn't be deeply shocked to discover her father's innocence, no matter how she feels about him. :thumbsdow

At least Ian finally admitted Bobby's attack on Lucy wasn't an accident.

im guessing dot don't know or don't believe bobby killed lucy, if she did would she allow him in her house

stacey is the only one in max's corner fighting

im guessing dot don't know or don't believe bobby killed lucy, if she did would she allow him in her house

stacey is the only one in max's corner fighting

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

I wish I hadn't known Steven was coming back with Lauren. I'd have enjoyed that twist.


It seems very unrealistic that a child who's been charged with GBH and is being investigated for murder is allowed to walk free (nt.

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Due to his predilection for attacking family members I would of thought he would of been placed with a foster family or in a juvenile unit if there is such a thing. I mean the kid is coughing up his guilty plea and obviously wants to be restrained in a way he cant hurt anybody else.

Abi, she knew Max didnt do it, she was just keen to keep Ben out of prison so choose her side, so in a way its no surprise she is unswerving in her convictions that Max did it and to be fair Max acted like he did with all his actions to remove evidence of Lucy from the car lot cctv etc.

Lauren back? Wheres the baby? Max is going to hate both of his off spring when he gets out and where does Stevo come into this ?

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

I wish I hadn't known Steven was coming back with Lauren. I'd have enjoyed that twist.


It seems very unrealistic that a child who's been charged with GBH and is being investigated for murder is allowed to walk free (nt.

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Due to his predilection for attacking family members I would of thought he would of been placed with a foster family or in a juvenile unit if there is such a thing. I mean the kid is coughing up his guilty plea and obviously wants to be restrained in a way he cant hurt anybody else.

Abi, she knew Max didnt do it, she was just keen to keep Ben out of prison so choose her side, so in a way its no surprise she is unswerving in her convictions that Max did it and to be fair Max acted like he did with all his actions to remove evidence of Lucy from the car lot cctv etc.

Lauren back? Wheres the baby? Max is going to hate both of his off spring when he gets out and where does Stevo come into this ?