I totally agree. From the moment she seen Brad, he's been her priority, no matter how much she denied it. Mark and her whole family, were always playing 2nd fiddle to a 20 year old relationshipQuote:
Originally Posted by indigodance
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I totally agree. From the moment she seen Brad, he's been her priority, no matter how much she denied it. Mark and her whole family, were always playing 2nd fiddle to a 20 year old relationshipQuote:
Originally Posted by indigodance
What????? rubbish!!! she never turned her back on her family at alll!!!! Recall one instance when she did this!Quote:
Originally Posted by indigodance
The fact that none of the family that moved to Erinsborough with Lauren is left is pretty damning when taken as a whole. Obviously it hasn't been written that way, and each person who left did so with a reason, but it's done the character of Lauren no favours that her whole family (bar Paige, who isn't dependent on her) has gone.
tammyy2j is right that she would be a better mother if she moved to join Bailey and Amber (and Matilda), who need her more than anyone else does. Amber leaving was the perfect opportunity. Paige could easily run the cafe.
That's right they all left for individual reasons had nothing what so ever with her being a 'bad' mother, or turning her back on them......... But why should she leave? She still has one child there that she has missed out on seeing grow up,,,, as if she could walk away from her now.... I couldn't....., and she has her business and boyfriend/lover!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
she put brad ahead of amber and mason which is why they left to meQuote:
Originally Posted by Summer8
she put brad ahead of amber and mason which is why they left to meQuote:
Originally Posted by Summer8
To be a good mother to the kids who need her the most (Amber and Bailey are both still very young, and also grief-stricken and vulnerable). Don't forget that she dumped Brad a few weeks back, so why on earth didn't she permanently join Amber, Matilda and Bailey? Because the writers want to keep her in the show for Brad, of course. But they can't write a reason for her to stay that convinces me she's a good mother who's willing to put her kids' well-being first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Summer8
Do you mean Bailey? Amber even spelt out that her mother's relationship with Brad was part of the reason she wanted to leave... :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I think it was obvious Amber wasn't comfortable with Brad moving into her father's house but complied to satisfy Lauren and Paige
Bailey was struggling with grief, hatred for Brad and drinking, he should be Lauren's top priority as he is her baby even if he is a teenager plus Amber is a new mother with a sick baby
Well I certainly don't want her to leave, and totally agree with you. I think some just want Lauren to leave because they don't like her!Quote:
Originally Posted by Summer8
I will admit that I don't like herQuote:
Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur
Neither do I, but only because of her behaviour. The same applies to Brad. As I've said before, I'd be quite happy for them both to leave together.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I liked her at the start when she returned with her family and Matt, they worked well as a family and had chemistryQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I've never been shy about my dislike for Lauren, but that doesn't mean I'm criticising her actions based off of that alone.
When Matt died, within like a month (maybe a little bit more) she was back to being flirty with Brad. There was a reason Therese AND Matt where always feeling cautious about those two. Yes, Therese wasn't perfect and she was out of line a lot of the time, but can you blame her? It's been obvious from the beginning Lauren wanted to be with Brad.
Yes, Amber put up with Brad living at their's for a bit, but if that was me and my kids dad was dead less than a year, I had moved in the one man they all felt threatened by and knew my kid wasn't 100% behind it, I'd tell him he couldn't stay!
He's an adult, he could figure something out. Amber was still grieving her dad, still dealing with the fallout of Daniel and Josh, still dealing with being pregnant, said baby being unwell and Lauren's main focus was Brad.
And if my other kid had a drinking problem, which got worse due to his fathers death, wild horses couldn't keep me from moving away to help him through everything.
Well said, LauBuch!
oh yes meant bailey the drinking fella callum's mate :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I've said this time and time again, Matt was no angel before he died. Why wouldn't Lauren move on?Quote:
Originally Posted by LauBuch
therese and matt was right about lauren and brad thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur
therese and matt was right about lauren and brad thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur
Not sure they were. It developed more when Paige arrived, but that said Lauren and Matt's marriage was on the rocks after Matt's behaviour.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Lauren keeping a portrait drawing of Brad wasn't easy for Matt
The problems in both the Willis and Turner marriages after they came to Ramsay Street all stem from the attraction between Lauren and Brad.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
If Lauren didn't love Matt enough to properly mourn the man who'd been a perfect husband for twenty years (and a problematic husband for only the last few months), consideration for her children's feelings should have stopped her moving on so quickly. Amber said herself that the relationship helped drive her and Matilda away.
This is not the behaviour of a loyal wife or good mother no matter how the writers try to spin it. They've given plenty enough reason for viewers to dislike Lauren and want her gone.
What was she supposed to do, destroy it? I always think that's childish behaviour. I'd rather keep the good memories.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I disagree. Bailey hated his Dad's behaviour towards the end too. I seem to recall Lauren trying to persuade him to remember the good things his Dad did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
That's certainly the truth!!!! She has never been a bad mother, she hasn't put Brad before any of her kids at all,,, In fact she dumped him because of Amber and Matilda.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur
I don't get it??? when did she ever do that????Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Maybe she felt she didn't need to,,, Amber only just left for gods sake and Bailey has been doing well so they keep saying.... Why shouldn't she stay around for Paige and her business????Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Only for Brad??? I think Paige is a big reason they want her to stick around for also....
I disagree!!!!! I never saw her wanting to be with Brad from the beginning!!!! Yes she always had a connection with Brad because of the child that she thought she lost and she was haunted by it.... And she did end up dumping Brad because of Amber and the whole mess.... I understand what you are saying about Bailey,,, but what if you finally got a daughter back that you thought you lost 20 years ago,,, could you just up and move away from her either??????? I wouldn't be able to....Quote:
Originally Posted by LauBuch
Exactly!!!! Lauren was devastated when Matt died.... but I suppose everyone thinks that its Laurens fault that Matt cheated also LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur
It's a little simplistic to say that because Lauren had feelings for Brad she never loved Matt and didn't grieve for him. It is possible to love two people in two very different ways and one doesn't negate the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Same goes for Brad. He was the married family man in this situation he bears a responsibility to his wife and children to immediately put stop to any kind of attraction he may have to another woman no matter how strong it is. He made the decision to cheat and that's entirely on him.
As for Amber, her problems stemmed more from not being able to watch her mother move on with someone else other than her dad. At some stage Lauren would have more than likely fallen in love again and while it did seem quick due to the writers wanting to keep the storyline moving, Amber would have had to deal with it no matter who the person was.
Exactly - yes she still had feelings for Brad which were dormant, but were obviously awoken when they started looking for Paige... I never saw her flirting with him like some think though..... People have history,,, and this is a big piece of history to have.. I think they did their best with the information they had.... Their partners weren't to blame for their history but they also didn't help any either... Terese with her stuff and Matt with his cheating and plot losing in the end.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur
You see not everyone agrees with you..... It had nothing to do with the attraction between her and Brad... Maybe it was the fact that Lauren new and was haunted with the fact about the child she never told him about.... seeing him brought all of it back,,the dreams etc.... I think if she never had Paige nothing would of happened..I don't believe that's where the problems started at all.... I think the true reason the problems started was because there was a child out there and a secret not because of any feelings..... Lauren did love Matt it was so obvious.... yes her attraction to Brad was growing because of Paige and Matts behaviour but shes only human....its not like it is just a random guy that she felt attracted to.... Ambers main reason for moving away was for the perfect job opportunity not Brad for heavens sake.... Loyal wife you say?????? she didn't cheat with a stranger and run off with him.... Major history and kid with Brad and got caught up in old feelings which is what spurred on that kiss...... and she did dump Brad mainly for Amber and Matilda,,, Id say that's a good mother......Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
And took responsibility for the hurt she caused Terese's family by ending her relationship with Brad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Summer8
His debt and subsequent death were all Lauren's fault too, apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Summer8
I don't see Terese being justified in trying to get rid of Paige or attempting to ruin Lauren's business just to get even with her, both actions could have hurt a lot of people not just Lauren. Terese was hurting but that doesn't make destroying the lives of people who really had no part in her anger at Lauren and Brad right.
Yes I recall that too, but most people tend to see the bad things Lauren has done..... no good at all.... I say go hard Lauren,,, you've lived some pretty bad heartache in your time... stand up and take the happiness :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur
I didn't say that though. I said "If Lauren didn't love Matt enough to properly mourn" him. That's completely different to saying she never loved Matt. I think he was her consolation prize (and he knew it). His death might have been painful for her but it didn't exactly shatter her, did it?Quote:
Originally Posted by LollyCarpenter
I disagree, Lauren was shattered when Matt died. Yes Matt always knew she had strong feelings for Brad but she did love him very much too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
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The whole thing I see here is,,, two people years ago having a connection, conceiving a child (unbeknown to one) and losing it... Moving on with their lives with other people creating families then coming back into the same vicinity of one another..... One of them remembering the child and yearning for that child, grief, heartache, after being around the father etc.... Then finding out that the child is alive brought back all of those feelings plus previous feelings of what if??? Then finally finding the child and reconnecting etc.... While still in love with their partners but through their own circumstances and brought up feelings and actions of their partners,,, their current families split... heartache all around..... But are they really bad people because of it, terrible mother, wife ???? Really?? I would say that Lauren had been to hell and back and did her damn best considering.......Quote:
Originally Posted by LollyCarpenter
Well what is PROPERLY mourn him?? she probably still is in her own way....Just because she hasn't been wearing black and wearing a chastity belt up until now doesn't mean she hasn't/isn't mourning. You don't be with someone for that long and have a family with someone to just forget about them straight away.... Maybe the fact of Matts behaviour and cheating and her feelings for Brad have helped her move on..... but that's understandable... it doesn't take away the love she had for him...... I think it did shatter her to begin with.... I just think after some revelations it made it easier for her to move on...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Obviously lol, but plenty do! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Summer8
Now who's being a little simplistic? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by LollyCarpenter
OK, I agree with you there. Lauren was shattered for all of a week or so...Quote:
Originally Posted by LollyCarpenter
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There were subtle hints between Brad and Lauren right from the beginning. They weren't flirting or pining after each other, but there was something between them that both Terese and Matt (and some of us viewers) picked up on (and it wasn't just their shared child, who Brad didn't even know had ever existed until much later).
They've hurt a lot of people unnecessarily, which Lauren has at least acknowledged to give her her due. I'm happy for them to leave Erinsborough and live happily ever after together.
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I think I've said all I'm going to on the subject of Brad and Lauren for now. They're definitely not worth the pain in my finger from typing all this on my phone! :lol: