'Waterloo Road' Philip Martin Brown talks new series, Grantly plots
As Waterloo Road returns to screens on Thursday (August 23), fan favourite Grantly Budgen is among the teachers who have moved to Scotland for the school's relocation.
Now in charge of a schoolhouse occupied by the old Rochdale kids, Grantly has more responsibility than ever on his hands - and viewers won't be surprised to hear that his patience is tested on more than one occasion as he settles into the new lifestyle!
Digital Spy recently chatted to Philip Martin Brown, who plays Grantly, to hear his take on Waterloo Road's relaunch and what's ahead in series eight.
How well have you and the rest of the cast settled into Scotland?
"We've settled in remarkably quickly. We didn't think that we would, but we have. I've been very lucky with my career, as I've travelled quite a lot around the world, and I can honestly say that Scotland has got the friendliest people of any nation that I've visited. That's really helped.
"For the show itself, the situation in terms of location has also been great. We've got the River Clyde as a backdrop to the school, and that opens up new possibilities for the writers and directors. The new school is also much bigger, which makes filming easier."
Do you think Waterloo Road's fans will accept this change to the show?
"Yes, because even though it's a different school, the interior of it looks remarkably similar to the old one. The designers have been very clever when creating this school, as they've kept it as similar as possible to the one we left behind.
"There will be more Scottish accents in the show, but I think that's something that the viewers will take to very quickly. I expect that after the first few episodes, people will be completely used to the fact that it's now in Scotland."
Was it sad to say goodbye to Rochdale after seven series?
"Yeah, it was sad. In fact, I was surprised at how sad I was, but it was because I'd made friends in Manchester - outside of Waterloo Road and the filming business, so I felt really at home there.
"But Glasgow is such a friendly place and it's great to have the car here. My wife has just been up to visit, so we went off to the Isle of Skye and up to the west coast of Scotland, which is just beautiful."
Did it take much consideration as to whether you wanted to move to Scotland with the show?
"Not at all, as I love Waterloo Road and I love playing Grantly. It really was a no-brainer for me."
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In this series, Grantly and his fiancée Maggie are running the boarding school which houses the kids from Rochdale. How does Grantly cope with that?
"Well, it's a bit like having a red hot poker shoved up his backside! He hates it. He's got the kids during the day and he doesn't like that very much, and then when he's finished and has put his pen down in the classroom, he goes back home and there they are again!
"Grantly has got to spend time with the kids 24/7 and he can't bear it. But Maggie loves it, so he puts up with it for her sake - and the money's sake!"
Are there any particular pupils at the house who cause problems for Grantly?
"All of them, in their own way! In one way or another, each one of them causes stress and aggravation."
There's obviously some new teachers joining the show in the new series. How well does Grantly get along with his new colleagues?
"Not very well at first. But then he finds out that one of them likes a drink, so he forms a bond immediately there! There's also a lady called Audrey, who he gets off to rather a shaky start with because she's in many ways similar to him, so there's a clash of personalities. Those two don't get on brilliantly, but as the series progresses, they do warm to each other.
"There'll also be a new secretary, who Grantly thinks is just as stupid as the last one! But then again, he thinks everyone's stupid - other than himself and possibly Maggie!"
We've heard that there's a bit of a feud between Waterloo Road and another local school, Havelock. Does Grantly play any part in that?
"Yes he does, because in any way they can, these kids from Havelock High attack Waterloo Road - be it the school or the schoolhouse. Nothing is sacred for these kids, and so Grantly gets in the firing line here, there and everywhere!"
The final ten episodes of the last series were very busy for you with the Fleur storyline. Are you equally as busy in the new series?
"With the first ten episodes, there are a couple of episodes in which I'm very busy. But as with any ensemble show, you take turns - everyone has their bite at the cherry, then takes a back seat, and so on.
"That ensures everyone gets their fair share. However, you'll see in episodes 20 to 30, there is going to be a very big storyline for Grantly."
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With the show now on its eighth series, did you ever imagine that Waterloo Road would have such long-lasting appeal?
"Not at all - I thought there was probably two series in it. I never had any idea that it would go on for so long. I think what happens is that families sit down and watch it together, which is lovely, because there are very few shows like that now.
"Even if a child or teenager loses interest in the show, then there's always an 8-year-old who is just getting interested in it. So where one drops out, another one takes over."
Have any of Grantly's storylines really stood out as your favourites?
"Yes, there was a girl with Asperger's syndrome called Karla back in series three, who Grantly really didn't like. I was the villain of the piece in that story and a bit of a monster, because I had a real go at her. I enjoyed that storyline.
"There's also Grantly's wig - I still miss it! I had a toupee that I thought was the bee's knees, even though it moved all the time and looked ridiculous. All of the staff were trying not to giggle, and in the end, it was taken by a sniffer dog who ran away with it!
"There was also the Fleur storyline last series. So those are the ones that particularly stand out thus far. There's also something that happens in episode seven of this next series…"
Were you sad to see Chelsee Healey leave the show while filming this series?
"Yes, I first met Chelsee when she was a student and then she left because she was too old to stay in the show. I was thrilled when she later came back as a secretary - she was great fun to be around and made everyone laugh. She's sorely missed, but she's gone on to great success - it was amazing to see her on Strictly Come Dancing."
Some fans may not know that you've done some teaching in real life. Have you specialised in a particular subject?
"Well, I learned to teach drama and English, so it's art imitating life in a way, as I'm an English teacher in Waterloo Road! It's been very handy, because I've been able to bring things to the show that I've noticed in real classrooms. Grantly is an amalgam of a teacher who taught me at school and people that I've met over the years in staff rooms, because there's always someone like Grantly!"
Is it strange for kids to watch you on television and then see you in the classroom the next day?
"Well, I haven't been in a classroom for about four years, but I only ever go to one school, which is a comprehensive close to where I live. They were quite used to seeing me on the telly and then in the classroom the next day.
"But in the very first year I was doing it, I was in a show called Band of Gold, and I was playing a villain who was caught by the police in bed with a rent boy. The next day, I walked into a classroom, so you can imagine the shouts and the whistles!"
We asked for questions on Twitter, and one fan wanted to know whether you'd like Steph Haydock to make a shock return for a reunion with Grantly…
"I would always like Steph Haydock to make a shock return, yeah! I've been really, really lucky with the females that I've played against on Waterloo Road. I've been paired with Denise Welch, Elizabeth Berrington, Lorraine Cheshire and now the lovely Melanie Hill. I couldn't have asked for better."
How close are you all as a cast on the show? Is there anyone in particular you'd spend time with outside of work?
"I think it's easier to say that there is no-one on set that I wouldn't spend time with outside of work! I've been really lucky - Waterloo Road has possibly been my favourite job, because everyone gets on so well and there is a social life involved. We all get on well and there's no rotten apple in the barrel - it's brilliant."
'Waterloo Road' Shane O'Meara talks Connor, Imogen, more - DS interview
Waterloo Road's new recruit Shane O'Meara has proved to be a popular addition to the show in recent weeks, topping Digital Spy's 'Favourite Newcomer' poll and winning praise from fans.
The next episode of the BBC One drama sees the actor's character Connor Mulgrew endure more tough times with his alcoholic mum Christine (Laurie Brett). However, it's not all doom and gloom as viewers will also see his relationship with Imogen Stewart (Kirstie Steele) continue to blossom.
When Imogen's outrageous mother Sally drunkenly gatecrashes her birthday party at the schoolhouse, Connor steps up to the plate by asking her to leave. Feeling protected by her fellow student, Imogen then decides to share a big secret with Connor…
Digital Spy recently caught up with Shane to hear more about episode four and his time at Waterloo Road so far.
As a newcomer to Waterloo Road, how well have you settled in?
"It's all gone really well. It can be a bit intimidating when you're joining a show that is so high-profile and established, so when I came in and did the read-through it was all a bit surreal! But I feel like I've adapted to it really quickly, especially as everyone's been so nice and welcoming.
"Even though I've only just come on screen, I've been filming now for five or six months, so I do feel like part of the mould now. Also, there are new pupils who joined after I started, so I don't feel new anymore."
How did you feel when you got the part?
"I did my audition and that went well, and then I got my callback. My agent called me three weeks after that, so by that point I'd put it to the back of my mind, because I hadn't heard anything yet and I was auditioning for other things. It was about half eight in the morning and my agent explained that I'd got the part.
"It was a bit of a shock, really - I flew out of my bed cartoon-style! My agent was telling me all of this information about filming dates, but I was blank and not really taking any of it in. So she said, 'Go and celebrate with your friends and family, and I'll call you back tomorrow and give you the fine details!'
"I went downstairs and told my mum, who was pottering around in the garden, and she was just as shocked as me but obviously really happy as well."
Had you watched Waterloo Road much before joining the show?
"Yeah, I'd seen it on and off for a few years, so I knew the general gist of the show and the kind of storylines it covers. I knew that the stories are quite dramatic and tackled well. It was a drama that I really did like, but I hadn't watched it much over the past year, so once I got the part, I went back and started watching it from the start of series seven to catch up."
Who was the first person you made friends with on set?
"For me, it was probably Kirstie, who plays Imogen, because we had a rehearsal and our costume fittings together. I met her first, and because she was the only person that I really knew, we just gelled - and then obviously we worked quite closely together as well. So we got to know each other a lot, and we're really good friends now."
In the past, you've done short films and theatre. How does Waterloo Road compare?
"It's a massive jump, really. I'd trained for a few years, but I thought that if I was ever lucky enough to get to a point like this, it'd be another good few years down the line.
"The previous projects had been mainly for experience, and to get a little bit on my CV. Then Waterloo Road came along, and I was taken aback with how much things can change. Things have definitely changed a lot for me since getting this job in April, so it's brilliant."
A lot of your scenes are obviously with Laurie Brett, who we all know from EastEnders. What is she like to work with?
"Laurie is amazing and so talented. She makes me laugh so much on set, and we get on great. When you're working with someone as established as Laurie, you get a lot of advice and tips about the industry. I'm taking that in like gold dust.
"I've been able to learn so much from Laurie. She's given me lots of little hints and tips, and I feel blessed to be able to work with her so closely."
When it comes to the alcoholism plot, how have you found tackling such a challenging storyline?
"Well, if me and Laurie have a big scene for the storyline, we normally go through it together beforehand. We'll discuss what we both want to do with the scene, and then find a mutual ground over the way it should be.
"We've also had some really intense scenes where it's not even a spoken thing - you just go for it, and if there's anything you don't like on the first take, you just adjust it and fix it on the second take. We work really well together, and I think we've been able to find a place where we're both doing what the other wants to in each scene."
In episode four this week, Christine seems to be getting even nastier towards Connor. How does he cope with that?
"He doesn't, really! Having said that, he has been brought up with this since he was younger, so it's not something that's new to him. It's his normality, really, to have Christine screaming at him due to her alcohol problems.
"It's normal for him to see his mum in these conditions, even though he's saying to her constantly that she needs to help herself. It's also screwed him up emotionally a little bit, so you'll see that come out as the episodes progress."
This week, we also see Imogen have some trouble with her mum Sally, don't we?
"Yeah - Imogen and her mum are really like chalk and cheese! Imogen is quite a quiet person, but her mum is this glamorous, flamboyant, happy-go-lucky character, who comes to the school to help out with Tariq's kayaking fundraiser.
"Imogen wasn't expecting to see her mum there, and you'll see that Sally is quite a flirty character, which attracts the attention of some of the boys in the school. That embarrasses Imogen, and then later Sally ends up turning up to Imogen's birthday party at the schoolhouse with one of the students, Gus. Imogen's mortified to see her mum there, especially as she's a little bit tipsy and in a skinny dress!"
Things seem to be going well for Connor and Imogen at this point. Why do you think they've become such a good match?
"I think the two of them just find each other really interesting. At first, Connor was quite closed-off and introverted, so he didn't really notice that Imogen was interested in him.
"But what you'll see in episode four is that Imogen has got a secret to tell Connor. She feels comfortable to tell him at the party at the schoolhouse, because Connor has stood up for her by asking Sally to leave, so she feels protected.
"They're both closed-off people, but they start letting each other in. I think it's just a natural attraction to each other."
What's coming up for them afterwards? Is it plain sailing from then on?
"There's some really happy scenes and a lot of really romantic stuff coming up between now and episode ten. But then again, Connor has got a lot going on in his home life, and Imogen has her own problems as well. It's a bit of a rollercoaster at times. Mostly it's good, but there are some times when it's starting to look a bit rocky as well…"
Do you share many similarities to Connor?
"Not really, because I'm quite a sociable person. A lot of the younger cast here at Waterloo Road go out and we do things after filming, while Connor keeps himself to himself and doesn't really mix with the other pupils.
"Connor doesn't have a lot of friends, but he likes it that way - I don't think he likes people knowing too much about him. So we're not really similar in that respect."
Can you share any behind-the-scenes stories from filming?
"Well, I broke my arm about a month into filming! It was basically the most pathetic fall ever - I tripped in my dressing room over a small table!
"Also, we all do get the work done here on set, but sometimes you can't help it and you get the giggles. You end up having to go and compose yourself, so there's loads of things like that happening! It's really relaxed on set, as well. Everyone has a good laugh together and chats away to everyone else. But when we do start work, we do take it seriously and everyone pulls it together."
We've heard that you're originally from Ireland, so how long have you been living in Scotland for?
"I moved over here to Scotland when I was 7, so it's been about 12 and a half years now. But I still have a lot of family in Ireland, so I go over quite a lot. My dad's still there, and I've got aunties, uncles and cousins. I go over maybe three times a year, but obviously not this year because I've been so busy."
How do you feel about Waterloo Road moving to Scotland?
"It's a big thing to move an established show, but I think they've done it so cleverly and it's really exciting for Scotland. It's opened up a lot of jobs, so it's great for the filming industry up here."
What are the standout episodes for Connor we should be watching out for?
"There's quite a few. Connor's stories go on for quite a long time, so we've got the storyline with Imogen, which will play out for a lot of series eight. The storyline with Connor and Christine will play out for a while as well. Along with episode four, episode ten is a big one to watch out for…"
Mark Benton - Chalky in Waterloo Road Interview
Waterloo Road's Daniel 'Chalky' Chalk finally loses patience with Janeece Bryant in tonight's (September 20) episode of the show, giving her some home truths over her recent attitude towards motherhood.
When Janeece (Chelsee Healey) takes advantage of Chalky by asking for his assistance with childcare once again, he can't help but feel that she isn't putting Cheryl first - and eventually struggles to keep quiet over his concerns…
Digital Spy recently chatted to actor Mark Benton, who plays Chalky, to hear more about the storyline, his character's future and life at Waterloo Road in general.
How well have you and the show settled into Scotland?
"Very well, really! The internal workings of the show are pretty much the same as they were in Manchester. We've had some new people come on board, but I always think the addition of new characters strengthens the programme.
"It's all been pretty easy. Obviously there were some teething problems with getting everything up and running, because it's such a big show. But hopefully people are still loving it as much as they were before."
Was making the move along with the show a tricky choice to make?
"To be honest with you, because I live on the south coast, it made very little difference. In fact, Glasgow is an easier travel for me because I can fly up and down. It wasn't a big issue for me - it was more of an issue for the guys who live in Manchester. Being away from home is pretty much the same wherever you are, really!"
A lot of your scenes this series have involved Chalky and Janeece. How do you define their relationship?
"It's a difficult one, because from the very start Chalky really liked her, but then she said he was too old! Despite that, they still remain close friends.
"I think Chalky's such a soft character sometimes, so Janeece tends to take him for a ride. It's not necessarily in a nasty way, but I think she tends to take him for granted a lot, while he's just happy to be close to her."
Things take a turn for the worse between them in the next episode. What can you tell us about that?
"Well, Janeece thinks she's got the chance of a really good job, so she basically takes the mickey out of Chalky and keeps asking him to babysit Cheryl while she's busy. Chalky has a really close relationship with Cheryl, and he starts to realise that he really does want to be a parent. That's why he starts to get angry with Janeece, because he thinks she's not necessarily taking as much interest in Cheryl as she should be.
"Obviously Janeece has got her own reasons, but it gets quite dramatic between them. Chalky really wants to tell her off, I suppose! He's angry with her - and I don't want to give too much away, but it's quite an interesting finale to their relationship."
This story all builds up to Janeece's departure from the show next week. How did you feel about saying goodbye to Chelsee?
"I do miss her on set. Janeece is such a big character, and Chelsee is a good laugh. She's great to be around, and I had an awful lot of scenes with her, so it's a big loss really! But I think Chelsee was ready to leave and move on to other things."
Chalky can sometimes be a bit of a loner, so how will he cope without Janeece around?
"To be honest with you, without giving away what happens, I think he'll cope quite well! I don't want to spoil any storylines, but with everything that happens when Janeece actually leaves and afterwards, it's a very positive outcome for Chalky."
We've heard that you've been filming some scenes with Tommy Lawrence Knight from The Sarah Jane Adventures. Have you enjoyed that?
"Definitely - he's great. Basically, what happens when Janeece leaves is that Chalky realises that he wants to be a dad. To move it forward, he wants to try and foster someone, so there could be a relationship building between Chalky and Tommy's character, Kevin.
"Tommy is a wonderful actor, really brilliant. He's fun to work with as well. It's been a real joy for me - we've had some dramatic stuff, and some really touching stuff too."
Did you have a teacher like Chalky at school?
"I didn't have anybody who's directly like Chalky, because I don't know how long someone like Chalky would actually last in a proper school! But I think he's parts of different teachers that I had, amalgamated into one.
"It's amazing how many people talk to you and say, 'That was like my English teacher!' or 'My Geography teacher was like that!' So certainly teachers like him exist. I've always thought that Chalky is a brilliant mathematician and a great mind, but he finds it difficult communicating. I'm sure there are teachers like that around."
Do you share any similarities with your character?
"We both wear glasses, and apart from that, I would say there is very little in common! I'm terrible at maths. I suppose we probably both have a terrible dress sense. I'm also a softie like Chalky is - but perhaps not quite as much as him."
Who are your best friends on set?
"It's going to sound really corny, but it's such a lovely group of people at Waterloo Road. It's a great crew as well, so it is like a big family. I wouldn't like to pick anybody out in particular."
Looking back over your time at Waterloo Road, do any stories or episodes stand out as your favourites?
"You haven't seen them yet! All of my favourites are still coming up. There's Chelsee's leaving episode, and my favourite episode is one that's coming up with Tommy. It's probably Chalky's best episode, so the best is yet to come."
What kind of a reaction do you get for the role of Chalky?
"It's funny, because once you join Waterloo Road you notice that a lot of kids are starting to recognise you. That's a new one, because most of my work has previously been grown-up TV. It's nice and it's funny when kids recognise you and it's a very different kettle of fish to adults, because they have very little tact! They don't hide the fact they recognise you very well, so it's quite funny."
You played Eddie on Early Doors and a lot of our readers were fans of the show. Do you think it could ever return for a special or another series?
"Who knows? I know that everyone who worked on that show would jump at the chance, because we all loved it and we're still all very good friends, so never say never.
"I guess as time goes on it's looking more unlikely, but it's one of those shows that doesn't seem to go away - a lot of people still love it, still watch it and when they see you on the street, they ask if you're going to do any more. I'd say start a petition to get Craig [Cash] and Phil [Mealey] to do some more, because many people loved it and we loved it too."