i think stan's death and buster leaving has affected lee he was close to them i don't think getting with whitney helped him he wasn't ready to settle downQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
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i think stan's death and buster leaving has affected lee he was close to them i don't think getting with whitney helped him he wasn't ready to settle downQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
He's cut Tracey's wages....Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
that to pay the new nigella, aunty babeQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
that to pay the new nigella, aunty babeQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
The BBC's description for last night's episode was "one of the residents does the unthinkable". Anyone know what this refers to? I thought it might be another suicide attempt by Lee and wonder how the outcome will be for him.
I think it is Mick ... I presume he beat up Oz as he had bloodied knuckles ... would have liked to have seen that thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by maryokane
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Originally Posted by maryokane
I thought it might refer to Jack identifying Ronnie's body (which to me is more unthinkable than beating someone up). I don't think it'd refer to a suicide attempt by Lee if we we weren't shown him doing it during the episode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Seems to fit Dazzle. Lower down the scale for me , was Mick agreeing to Babe being in charge of the books . :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I thought the same about Jack identifying Ronnie and Roxy. Also telling their children about their deaths too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
More like Mrs Lovett. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I did feel sorry for Donna, not knowing about Roxy.
I didn't understand why everyone was so reluctant to tell her.Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Jack didn't want the whole square finding out yet (I think because the kids didn't know).Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
their last interaction was arguing tooQuote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
older people could have been told it wasn't like the kids are outside meeting them, they are being shielded by jack and family
it looks like no one in the vic knows and abi is working
their last interaction was arguing tooQuote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
older people could have been told it wasn't like the kids are outside meeting them, they are being shielded by jack and family
it looks like no one in the vic knows and abi is working
It would be impossible for Jack to be certain he could keep the deaths from the kids once it was common knowledge - unless he was prepared to upset and confuse them further by banning them from communicating with their friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
However, I think there was also an element of wanting to keep it quiet to make it feel less real. Now he's seen the bodies he can no longer deny to himself that Ronnie is gone.
yes as you say telling made it seem more real for jack but now after seeing the bodies it is
I thought the whole not telling the kids thing was silly. It was a horrid bit of the death story line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
It was all about Jack's state of mind. He was in deep shock and not ready to deal with telling the kids since he couldn't quite believe it himself at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
However, both Max and Sharon were nagging him to tell them so we know that the writers didn't agree with keeping them in the dark.
why is shirley mad at glenda, is it for sleeping with phil
so jack and the kids are still leaving for onger
michelle working the allotment who writes this michelle a total different character from last one
is the lola's social worker visiting denise?
Who are they trying to kid that Vincent is unfit? :eek:
I liked Michelle and Martin's talk at the allotment - I find them very believable as siblings. She is very different, but it has been twenty years and my memory of her is pretty hazy, so it doesn't bother me too much at the moment. It's funny because when Martin was taking about Pauline and Arthur, it didn't occur to me that this Martin has never even shared any scenes with them. I never thought that would happen!
I laughed at the dramatic way Jack announced he's still moving to Ongar (which is fast reaching mythical status in my mind :D). I didn't like the way Max wasn't allowing him to grieve, although I know he was doing what he thought best. It was good to see Abi's warmth towards her dad.
I wonder if Scott Maslen is leaving? I don't find Jack likeable (although perhaps Ronnie's death will knock the arrogance out of him) so I don't personally care if he goes.
As much as I love EastEnders nod to their glory days and ledge characters, Michelle is mentioning Pauline and Arthur a bit too much. I love Stacey getting wound up by Michelle. Can't wait for Stacey to pop.
Scott Maslen and Perry Fenwick were excellent tonight and Dot broke my heart again, she made it all make sense to the children with Roxy and Ronnie. I almost believed there was a heaven. I wonder if Jack is going to leave and go to Ongar? I wonder if Charlie will come back to claim his son?
Quite revolting but funny, the pigeon pie scenes in the Vic. Johnny did make me howl when he was about to throw up. Babe is now Mrs Lovett. The dressing up was quite funny. Johnny looked good in that dress. Linda Henry has a gift for comedy, her put downs and one liners are legendary, especially when at Babes expense.
All in all a good episode(s) although no matter how good EastEnders is right now, an Hour is too much for me in one sitting.
Yes, Stacey's barely controlled fury at Michelle's high-handedness and interference is very amusing. :D
One of the issues with them bumping off Ronnie and Roxie is now there is a big load of kids and a widow. And that requires different storylines. He can't be the centre of anything unless he remarries Honey and then that means there's even more kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Jack moving away is a natural consequence of his new wife being bumped off. IMO.
Whilst this would be very natural in real life, soapland rarely follows those routesQuote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
jack to onger and max moves into ronnie's house with abi and Lauren
i see ian still dislikes and not trusts max and too right he is only innocent
jack to onger and max moves into ronnie's house with abi and Lauren
i see ian still dislikes and not trusts max and too right he is only innocent
Scott Maslen as Jack is doing amazing, his grieve is so raw, you really feel for him
I think him leaving with all the three kids is best
But story lines will be limited.. they couldn't dare insult fans by having him find new love any time soon. He's got a mountain of grief and kids to deal with. I don't think there's any property left near the square undeveloped for him to work on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
His is classic bystander now.
I don't really want to have to watch him being sad as well as Lee being sad for the next few months.
No comment! :ninja:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/a...20170103119520
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
I must admit it was nice having a soap free weekend starting on Friday. I wouldn't mind the BBC moving Friday's episode to Wednesday.
That is hilarious, worth keeping a copy on the laptop for re-runs ,for the all too frequent times of Beale &Co. annoyance.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
stacey over unburdening her problems to jane so wrong can they give her a friend her own age or who isn't a badun like beales
I tried to look for the positives in tonight's offering, but I am struggling a bit to be honest. Jack (Scott Maslen) was very good, Mick was doing my head in a bit tonight. I found it quite a long boring 27 minutes. The Bex, Louise scenes were a bit cringey and who on earth says "A total toenail." ????
The only other bit I enjoyed was a smug Stacey thinking she had got rid of Michelle.
glenda was not shocked to hear jack say the heart attack was from roxy cocaine use
sharon heard
ronnie and roxy are still dead yes? only jack grieving so
Only Jack visibly grieving so...Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
ben oggling johnny, billy and phil laughing so roxy and ronnie whoQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
why did mitchells have to say goodbye to michelle only sharon on her own would do billy and honey don't know her neither does ben
good on mates vincent and mick throwing mick 40th birthday for jack as he only lost his wifeQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita