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I'm not talking about a balance because no one will ever match Den Watts on the selfishness scales but you can't help seeing that they were extremely selfish. No one in that situation gave a monkeys about anybody elses feelings and selfishness is what's got everybody into the mess they are in now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alisha
I wouldn't say 'extremely'. Yes, selfishness did play an element in this but what they had was consume by love but I agree that they went the wrong way about it. The only reason they stalled was because of Sharon’s fear about Den destroying Dennis again. That was understandable given what happened last time. As for Zoe, I'm not going to make excuses for S&D on that part. I really do think they should have handled it better but it was never a case of not giving monkeys. Unlike Zoe and Den, Sharon and Dennis were not planning a life time deception. They were going to come clean. I think the not giving a monkeys applies more to Den and Zoe than S&D because they drove Sharon away by using her infertility against her and then planned to lie to Dennis about the babies parentage for the rest of thier lives. I guess what I'm trying to say is, although everyone acted selfishly, I do believe that Sharon and Dennis bears the least responsibility to the current situation and I in no way hold them accountable for his death. Although Den does not deserve to be dead, he is the author of his own death. It was Dens obsession with Sharon that drove him to such extremes and this is why Chrissie got him back.Quote:
Originally Posted by squarelady
As for Chrissie as much as a like her, it was her selfish streak that got Sharon to England making out that Den was at deaths door but she wanted Den to 'lose his baby' and let her go so she can go back to his wife. Sharon and Dennis's action may have annoyed Den and Zoe but not her. Her reasons for getting Sharon back was her way of keeping her husband. In some way she is no better than Zoe –doing anything to hang on to her man.
I agree Alisha but they all did what they did for love, of husband, family, boyfriend, girlfriend or daughter. They were all selfish and could of all gone about it better.
Chrissie wanted Den, she didn't care if Sharon got hurt.
Dennis wanted Sharon, he didn't care about Zoe or Den.
Zoe wanted Dennis, she didn't care about Sharon or Chrissie.
Sharon wanted Dennis, she didn't care about Zoe.
Sam just wanted her pub back and to prove she wasn't a failure to her family, she didn't care about Den.
Den wanted Sharon with him regardless of anyone!
Regardless of to what extenet they were selfish they all were. No one went the right way about anything, then again it's Walford. A debate over breakfast just isn't possible!
This I won't dispute but the lengths, motivation, intentions and the degree of selfishness is debatable.Quote:
Originally Posted by squarelady
Sharon and Dennis' love was a mutual one, the rest wasn't - not even Den and Sharon because his love was obsessive whereas Sharons wasn't.
Actually she legally is.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemo
She isn't. There is no legal tie binding them together at all. In the eyes of the law they can marry because not only do they share no blood connection but they were not raised together under 18 so prohibited laws do not apply. The hold NO connection to EACHOTHER but they do to Den. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
I don't think she'd ever do it...just empty threats...
Nope. She's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
They were never raised together and because Sharon's over 18 the legality doesn't come into it. If they hadn't been raised together most of their lives and Dennis had appeared in her life when Sharon was 17 or younger she'd be his legal sister, but she was 33...so no relation, legal or otherwise...
Well theatrically they are related because Sharon is Den's daughter and Dennis is Den's son. Sharon is adopted so she is seen as Den's daughter now.
As for Janine she wasn't evil - she didn't kill anyone she just went round mouthing off.
Theoretically they're brother and sister, but not legally :)