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did mas said he was going to visit his mum and dad, i was sure his mum died leaving shabham money
Dear me! What kind of nightmare is Louise going to turn into when her whole family (including Sharon, who although no longer technically family I expected better of) laugh at her putting dog **** through someone's letterbox!
I hope Linzi's mum jumped to conclusions about Jay sleeping with her. The youngster seemed genuine when she told Bex she didn't want to get him into trouble. I wonder if anyone will believe his denials? Let's hope it won't be the usual soap cliché of everyone believing the newcomer and not the decent person they've known and respected for years... :wall:
I agree, they acted as though Denise was in the wrong. Did anybody else want Denise to shove that bag of poo down Louise's throat?
Bex is as interfering and annoying as her trumpet blowing mother. I bet when it all comes out in the wash Bex doesn't apologise.
Jamie Borthwick was brilliant again tonight, I wonder how this storyline ends? Nice scenes in the Vic with Sharon and the darts team. Diane Parish was stand out brilliant as always.
Not sure what Andy's up to???
Anyone else think that Andy guy was quite strong in his come on to Stacey, she should keep her distance if she really wants to work at a relationship with Martin
why did libby tell denise if she already did it
all against jay
love thy neighbour omg at denise and phil funny pairing that works
why did libby tell denise if she already did it
all against jay
love thy neighbour omg at denise and phil funny pairing that works
Jaime, Diane and Steve all excellent
I wish Jay's grandfather or another relative for him would come on the show
Only Honey and Louise are on his side and believe him and the lynch mob posse out in force finding him guilty :mad:
I hope Ben fights his corner
Probably because she was wanted her mother's support.
The first abortion pill ends the pregnancy so Libby was right that it was too late.
I think she must have taken the pill after she first told Denise she was pregnant. Having almost been in Denise's position myself, I understand why she was so upset, but she should have kept her pain to herself until Libby had gone.
I really can't understand why Bex lied about Jay! http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...sed-630530.gif
It worked with Denise being pie-eyed but I don't think it would with her stone cold sober. She hates Phil too much. :D
Why does Shirley always run to Phil when he calls her :nono:
I hope Shirley will also fight Jay's corner
Does Mick or any of the other Carters know Kush slept with Nancy?
Did Star claim Jay had sex with her ? Thats a rape under the law , even being found not guilty wont stop it ruining his life.
Denise is in for a hangover hell that is karma after how she laid into squigal.
Pam does she hate Ben for messing with her grandson or is she really a secret homophobe?
Did Star claim Jay had sex with her ? Thats a rape under the law , even being found not guilty wont stop it ruining his life.
Denise is in for a hangover hell that is karma after how she laid into squigal.
Pam does she hate Ben for messing with her grandson or is she really a secret homophobe?
no pam isn't homophobic, she hates ben for his past treatment of paul, think paul should have told his grandparents he was now in a relationship with ben
pam wants better for paul than ben
no pam isn't homophobic, she hates ben for his past treatment of paul, think paul should have told his grandparents he was now in a relationship with ben
pam wants better for paul than ben
No, she repeatedly told her loathsome mum he'd done nothing wrong.
I wondered that at first but then realised her attitude was probably because he's Ben Mitchell, notoriously unstable bully boy and killer. I can't see many potential in laws welcoming him with open arms. :p
Great scenes with Denise, Phil and Jay. It comes to something when Kim is the voice of reason. :)
Denise had the line of the night to Phil, "It's been a long time since anyone has said that to me. It's just a shame it's you" :D
It was an odd episode. The setting up of Denise and Phil together was a bit clumsy and a bit horrid.
I felt sorry for Jay - he's tried to finish it and it's all gone horribly wrong.
Amazing how fast the police react though - gangs of them roaming the street hunting down teenagers opinions as if he'd been bonking them all.
Denise was horrid to Libby. And as for getting champagne to celebrate after that news, well it was really horrid too. I don't think I enjoyed any of tonights really as there was also the pushy builder with Stacey.
Poor Jay but at least Ben, Billy and Honey are standing by him
I was expecting Claudette to show up
Did the police take any statements from Linzi/Starr and Rebecca as they did from Louise
I was disappointed in Mick and Johnny refusing to serve Jay and Ben after all Mick went through with Dean I believe he was still letting him in the pub serving him after knowing the truth about the rape :angry:
johnny studying in a pub and is hit on amazing gaydar by your man
really feel sorry for jay but a good storyline well acted by jamie
I agree, I'm pleasantly surprised by how well this story has been handled overall, even though it's been so harsh on Jay. I'm very glad Linzi hasn't been painted as a teenage seductress who entrapped Jay (well, except by Ben, but I wouldn't expect anything less from him). She's vulnerable and desperate for someone to love her.
Youngsters sending explicit photos of themselves because they believe they need to in order to win someone's affection - and because "everyone else does it" - is a real problem nowadays. Most of us adults haven't caught up to the fact that the sexual pressures on kids today are far different and more intense than we encountered. I saw a headline earlier today that youngsters as young as eleven are becoming victims of revenge porn FFS! So the talk Sonia, Sharon etc had with the young girls about consent and only doing what they feel comfortable with was very timely.
Jamie Borthwick is playing a blinder as the devastated Jay. Being put on the sex offenders register was cruel because we know exactly what went down and that he's a decent person who's been naive at worst. However, the law's first duty is to protect children, and rightly so.
My biggest complaint about the storyline is that Jay never asked Linzi's age. I understand why they did it that way (so Jay would be innocent and Linzi not painted in a bad light), but it's a massive plot hole as far as I'm concerned.
Also, I can understand your average member of the public thinking Jay's a paedophile, there's no way Ritchie would have used that term. A paedophile is attracted to pre-pubescent children, a fact of which any lawyer would be well aware.
So Jay had explicit pictures of a 14 year old on his phone! Yeah for me that over cooked the story line, thats not how I see Jay rolling or indeed he would of deleted them instantly when he knew how old she was, not keep them.
Pleading guilty thou, but then when your brief judges you guilty and walks what chance do you have.
Loved Tina outing Sonja as a T leaf, lets hope Tina can find someone decent and soon.
So Jay had explicit pictures of a 14 year old on his phone! Yeah for me that over cooked the story line, thats not how I see Jay rolling or indeed he would of deleted them instantly when he knew how old she was, not keep them.
Pleading guilty thou, but then when your brief judges you guilty and walks what chance do you have.
Loved Tina outing Sonja as a T leaf, lets hope Tina can find someone decent and soon.
A Wednesday! An Hour!
Ok, watching now.
The lack of memory by Phil is quite amusing, as was his denial of the condom.
The necklace is tantalisingly almost discovered.
Yeah it was all a bit quick - they must have some top men looking at phones at Walford.
It does pose a question about what if someone sends you nasty photos to your phone - what should you do? Go straight to the police and hand yourself in, scrawl nonce or paedo on your own head and wait to be beaten up?
She's the sender of child pornography, who has now managed to tarnish Jay's life for the next 5 years. Did he have poor legal advice?
It might give some nasty creatures an idea of how to make someone's life a misery. Not that nasty creatures need EE for advice.
To what end is this storyline? Is he leaving? Is it going to turn out they get together in 5 years and live happily ever after, or is it just trying to show that you should ask people's ages before you agree to have a drink with them and never give them your phone number.
dupe by dope.
That iPhone was encrypted, and presumably protected by a strong password that would have taken years to crack. I'm sure Jay's phone had no security and any deleted photos could be restored in minutes by experts. :p
Still, I do agree the whole thing happened unrealistically quickly.
What a hypocrite! He pled guilty to soliciting although innocent but wouldn't listen to Jay's explanation of why he did the same... :wall:
There was plenty of evidence of a relationship and presumably Jay reacting by text to the photos, so it wasn't a case of being sent child pornography out of nowhere.
He pled guilty so was obviously going to be convicted of sex offences, although the judge only gave him a light sentence. He could have fought the charges, although things might have been worse for him if he had.
Linzi is a victim too. I won't repeat what I've said previously but suffice it to say she was desperate for Jay to love her and didn't understand how much trouble the pictures would cause. It's a very sad state of affairs that a fourteen year old feels she has to do that to be loved. :(
The storyline has been quite well thought out so nobody is to blame (well, except for Linzi's awful family).
It's horrid. All horrid.
how old was Abi when they were together?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...n_3784731.html
I want some nice stories!