Stacey/Bradley *May contain Spoilers*

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Originally Posted by Siobhan

But he did say he would respect her decision so in this case is should have been stacey to speak out and say "I want this baby".. Bradley gave her his reason for not wanting the baby but she never gave him reason why they should keep it... She even said herself at one stage that she didn't want to be a single mum

I don't agree with your mum Littlemo.. it is not a woman's choice, it is a joint decision.. it takes two to make a baby so both should have a say... If stacey decided by herself then it would be her fault if Bradley did leave her cause she would be just expecting him to stand by her without asking first

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Stacey did say a few things at the clinic that showed that she wanted the baby. The reason she gave for wanting to keep it was love. Love for each other and love for the baby. There was no time when she said, 'I want this baby', but if Bradley knew her as well as he thought he did. He'd know what she really wanted, you could just tell. I felt he could have listened to Stacey, the way that she listened to him. He just dismissed all her feelings and anxieties. Blamed her not wanting to go through with it on being scared. I know Bradley said that she had to do what she wanted, but I felt that he made it seem like she'd be on her own. Not in the physical sense, but emotionally.

It was hard for both of them but I just feel that if your in love with somebody that much, you'd put someone else's feeling above your own. Stacey did for Bradley, and he wasn't prepared to do it for her.

It was her feelings he was thinking about.. His dad kept him as a child and then 5 years later walked out.. he saw how his mum was and how much it affected him so he didn't want to put Stacey through that. Stacey wanted the baby for love but she also gave it up for love so either way the baby would not have made a difference to her feelings for bradley

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Originally Posted by Siobhan

It was her feelings he was thinking about.. His dad kept him as a child and then 5 years later walked out.. he saw how his mum was and how much it affected him so he didn't want to put Stacey through that.

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To me I really didnt get the impression he was thinking of her feelings. He was thinking of how inconvenient it would be to his life, his plans for the future, his career (Im not saying that he didnt have valid points to make) rather than Stacey. Also when she was in such a state at the abortion clinic, crying and totally unsure what to do, he should have insisted that they go home and take a little more time to come to a resolution about the situation. I mean, she had only told him the night before!

I also didnt buy the 'Im scared I'll turn out like my dad' arguement. I mean is he his own person, or a Max clone?!

I think the abortion will haunt, and ultimately finish off, this couple.:(

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Originally Posted by pinkbanana

To me I really didnt get the impression he was thinking of her feelings. He was thinking of how inconvenient it would be to his life, his plans for the future, his career (Im not saying that he didnt have valid points to make) rather than Stacey. Also when she was in such a state at the abortion clinic, crying and totally unsure what to do, he should have insisted that they go home and take a little more time to come to a resolution about the situation. I mean, she had only told him the night before!

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Yeah he was definetely being selfish! As you say some valid points, but it seemed like he was conducting a business deal, not getting rid of his baby. That 'tie thing' i'm sure it was a way of keeping his emotions at a distance. It was like if he just got his head down and got on with things, it would go away. He should have talked it through with Stacey properly, she needed him and he wasn't there for her.

More time was needed. Stacey should have been sure about the situation before she went through with it.

When I was in this situation, same age, same time in the relationship, I kept the baby, against my boyfriends wishes. He said he'd stand by me etc. Six months later, he was gone. Never paid maintenance (£3.50 a week wasnt worth it anyway) and never made contact. Seven years ago, he signed papers disolving any parental responsibilities. Did I blame him for leaving me - yes, did I lose the plot with him and his family for leaving me - yes. Did I even begin to think about the fact that at the very start, he said he wasn't ready to be a father yet and therefore felt that we shouldn't go through with the pregnancy - no.

I've also been through the termination route and my partner actually told his parents that I was pregnant but I was having a termination - he wanted to go through with the pregnancy, I didn't. But it was still one of the hardest decisions that I ever had to make.

Bradley told Stacey how he felt and she made her decision from there. If he'd lied and said that he'd stand by her no matter what, because she felt she wanted to go through with the pregnancy and then they had gone the seperate ways, through the natural end of the relationship (not everyone gets together at 17 and stays together for life!), would everyone be having a go at Bradley then - he couldn't do anything right in some peoples eyes, no matter which way he played it, yet he was being honest with himself and with Stacey - to me, that was the bravest thing he could have done! Give the poor guy a break!

Stacey and Bradley don't truly know each other - they need to be together a while and enjoying their lives together before bringing a child in to a place which, frankly, at the moment, isnt a very great place to live.

You make some good points. You should be a lawyer! :)

I still love Bradley. I feel he could have been there for Stacey more than he was, but I can understand that it would be a hard situation for somebody of that age.

The thing is I think Stacey in a lot of ways is more mature than Bradley. She's much stronger. I love them together, but I think Stacey might need more than Bradley is prepared to give.

Maybe that might make her look else where, who knows?!

We do tend to be the more mature sex at that age :D

I did want to be, but time never seems to be available to study the relevant courses etc unfortunately. Although, mostly, I was speaking from the heart after my experiences.

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Originally Posted by jojomum

Bradley told Stacey how he felt and she made her decision from there. If he'd lied and said that he'd stand by her no matter what, because she felt she wanted to go through with the pregnancy and then they had gone the seperate ways, through the natural end of the relationship (not everyone gets together at 17 and stays together for life!), would everyone be having a go at Bradley then - he couldn't do anything right in some peoples eyes, no matter which way he played it, yet he was being honest with himself and with Stacey - to me, that was the bravest thing he could have done! Give the poor guy a break!
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Nothing in life is ever black and white. However my personal opinion on this 'soap couple' is that Bradley did rush her into having an abortion. They hardly took the time to discuss it. The next day they were at the abortion clinic. I truly think in that repect he was selfish, not brave (quite the opposite), he was keen to rush through with the abortion, so that Stacey didnt have time to really stop and think about the consequences. He was thinking about himself more than Stacey, and I think thats what I found quite difficult to watch, especially the scene in the abortion clinic when Stacey was obviously very distressed and crying, and he just wanted the whole thing over with. It showed a totally different/harder side to the Bradders we know!

It's only now that he will begin to see that its not all done and dusted.:(

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Originally Posted by pinkbanana

It's only now that he will begin to see that its not all done and dusted.:(

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Yes I think he might start to wonder if he did do the right thing. Well he already is, but it'll probably get worse, seeing the way Stacey is effected by it.

Do you reckon he'll start to feel guilty?!

Do you think Stacey will carry on as 'normal' for a while, and then just snap?!

It'll be interesting to see what happens.

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Originally Posted by littlemo

Yes I think he might start to wonder if he did do the right thing. Well he already is, but it'll probably get worse, seeing the way Stacey is effected by it.

Do you reckon he'll start to feel guilty?!

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Not sure, I think seeing that Stacey hasn't 'bounced back' from it and is still withdrawn will make Bradders worry about her, but I think he will have convinced himself that they did the right thing. That maybe the case for him, but unsure about it being the right thing for Stacey (think she'll be affected for a very long time by it)!

I do think that if she'd had the baby and eventually they had broken up then it doesnt mean that it would have been the end of her world being a single mother (or that she would have remained one).

Moreover, it looks like this abortion business is set to haunt them, you can tell that is the way EE is going with the storyline from reading spoilers and various TV mags! :(

Oh and if Sean finds out about it, then Bradders had better be a good runner - think I'd invest in a pair of decent trainers, if I was him!!!!