It was indeed cruel, but remember Stacey was at an extremely low ebb when she wrote it and changed her mind when she felt a bit better.
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It was nice to see Dot go see Stacey and ask about Jean, it is strange she is not visiting Stacey and Lily
Abi and Lee, well I did not expect that but a Carter Branning baby if he did the job could be good for the show's future and Lee and Whitney really don't make a believable couple for me
Abi is so desperate to be loved and not alone that I feel sorry for her
Martin is in America to see Michelle, when he returns could perhaps Vickie or Mark come back with him
I like Pam and Les together, again Pam looked lovely
Ben is so angry with himself he needs help.
Ah well lets see if soap odds work and Abi's one night drunken thing gets her up the duff duff duff.
lovely scenes with Dot.
Is Stacey going to have to tell the world why Mrtin has left?
Ben is so angry with himself he needs help.
Ah well lets see if soap odds work and Abi's one night drunken thing gets her up the duff duff duff.
lovely scenes with Dot.
Is Stacey going to have to tell the world why Mrtin has left?
Urgh! I can't believe how stupid Abi is! Of all the people, why Lee? Surely even in a drunken state she would know that out of all the men in the city, Babe would not want her to sleep with her own nephew, let alone have a baby with him! It'll be interesting to see her reaction when she finds out, though.
Abi could be passing an STD on to Lee for all she knows. :wall:
The saving grace of the Ben/Abi story for me, and what keeps both characters just on the right side of sympathetic, is that they genuinely love each other. Usually in similar soap stories, at least one of the people involved is cruelly and cynically using the other.
I thought it was refreshing that they went to the clinic together and could talk about his one night stands. However, more lies keep piling up...
Yes it's quite sad.
I'm surprised she hasn't so far. Maybe she's hoping they can go back to playing happy families when Martin comes back?
I thought the double bill tonight was pretty Mediocre. The best bit for me was Kim and Lee in the Albert, which was a really funny scene. Also the scenes with Les and Pam were lovely.
I'm not absolutely certain about this, but I believe the USA are not keen on allowing anyone in who has a criminal record, especially a custodial record. Does anyone with more legal knowledge know about this?
Visa Waiver Programme (VWP)
The VWP allows most British Citizen passport holders to visit the US for up to 90 days. The types of journey allowed under the VWP include tourism, certain types of business visit and transit to another country.
You won’t qualify for entry to the USA under the VWP, and will need to apply for a visa from the nearest US Embassy or Consulate, if:
you have a British passport that describes your nationality as something other than ‘British Citizen’
your passport has been extended by 12 months under exceptional measures put in place in mid 2014;
your passport doesn’t include certain security features
you’ve been arrested for certain crimes, even if it didn’t result in a criminal conviction
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We do not recommend that travelers who have been arrested, even if the arrest did not result in a criminal conviction, have a criminal record, certain serious communicable illness, have been refused admission into, or have been deported from, the United States, or have previously overstayed under the terms of the Visa Waiver Program, attempt to travel visa free under the Visa Waiver Program. The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act does not apply to US visa law and spent convictions,regardless of when they occurred will have a bearing on a traveler’s eligibility for admission into the United States.
Even drunk I'd think I'd be aware of the fact Abi is pregnant while holding what looked like vodka. Or the next day I'd remember.
Thanks RW. So there is no way Martin would be allowed into the USA.....
babe dislikes whitney but will she welcome abi and baby to the family
Can't say I am looking forward to the Strawberry blonde at 70 returning for her death bed scenes. I may have to Sky+ the show and fast forward those scenes.
why didn't whitney tell mick and linda that babe forced her to tell lee
Well, at least Abi's not pregnant, but there may be a chance that she's passed what Ben has onto Lee, depending on the last time she and Ben had sex etc. Thankfully, Chlamydia isn't that serious, not like HIV/AIDS, but it can lead to a lot of trouble if left untreated. I guess we'll find out later if Ben's condition is advanced or not. Apparently, if caught early then it can be treated with a short range of antibiotics, but too long and it can lead to things like infections of various parts of the body, and infertility. It'll be ironic if Ben ends up becoming infertile after everything with Abi etc.
I bet the writers are gonna work that idea in! Something like; Ben's gonna be scared stiff that he's gonna end up infertile, and he'll tell Abi how glad he is she's pregnant with his baby and everything, prodding her to carry on with Babe's plan. That does sound like EE's style.
If Lee ends up catching it from Abi, it would make a good storyline. Also, maybe it would teach Babe not to get involved and to stop meddling in other people's relationships, lying and such!
I'm disappointed Abi didn't tell Babe that she slept with Lee. Disappointed, but not surprised, as it sounds like the sort of thing she'd do. Plus, how do you tell a woman you've slept with her nephew, and "oh by the way, there's a chance I may have given him STD". I just hope Abi wakes up and warns Lee about it, so that he can get tested! I can't believe how stupid she was, sleeping with someone when she knows there's a chance she might have STD! And to do it to Lee, someone she knows an' all! I have no respect for that girl!
I think it's highly likely Abi will have given Lee chlamydia, and that he's now going to pass it on to Whitney before Abi can warn him. I'd be surprised if the writers can resist the drama of such a messy situation.
Nancy and Whitney's talk about the latter's abusive past was moving. When Whitney said "but he wasn't the worst", it sent chills up my spine.
Was Nancy correct that Whitney no longer loves Lee now he doesn't make her feel safe? I suspect she was, although the proposal will paper over the cracks for the time being.
There's no way Abi would willingly tell Babe her one night stand was Lee. She knows Lee's aunt is ruthless and unpredictable, so I bet she's scared stiff of her. :eek:
I like Honey and Ronnie's relationship and how it brings out a softer, more fun side in the latter.
bianca and her kids not family to whitney no more
jack and honey will happen ruining her friendship with ronnie
Nancy is so unemphatic and judgmental, its her not Witt Lee needs to cut from his life..been there.
Bad news from the clinic ..full respect for Ben getting tested , in men that std can cause no symptoms rather than others that make you scream when you pee but for ladies it is serious. Abi will need to be tested and told to tell any sexual partner. Although is a good Dr Leg style educational story I fear Witt will be the one that suffers long term with infertility.
Lee..the huge clue was drinking, most meds ive taken dont mix well with alcohol, vomiting palpitations etc Plus now they take a good while to work and if its seroxat painfull to come off (it was easier to stop smoking)
Babe..the baby seller is unaware of the basics like blood types and DNA which fool this kina evilness, but like always she will be forgiven ..yawn
Does mrs billy know how close she is standing to a car crusher. :ninja:
I thought Whitney's past of abuse was common knowledge on the Square and with all the Carters
I liked her talk with Nancy but I cant help feel she was looking for sympathy from Nancy to get back in with Carters to get more at Mick
I don't think Whitney loves Lee and she should be honest completely with him even in his sick depressed state
I would prefer Whitney to leave the square now and go to Milton Keynes to see puffer jacket.
I shouldn't but I find it mildly amusing that many of the square will end up at the Clap clinic and Whitney has it again. :D
I didn't get that at all. I thought Whitney was just being honest about the reasons for her crush on Mick. They're very good reasons after all. Soaps love to give unsubtle hints when characters are being insincere (sidelong glances, secret smirks etc) and I saw none of that in this instance.
I think it's been made clear she's desperate to keep Lee (whether it's love or something else), and not just for Mick's sake. I don't think she'd have been so devasted when Lee dumped her otherwise. She can chase Mick whether she lives in the Vic or not if that's her main aim.
I don't even know if she has feelings for Mick any more. I haven't seen any suggestions of them for a while now, although I wouldn't be surprised if they re-emerge.
Some pretty good acting by Perry Fenwick tonight.
linda will ask to adopt whitney soon enough in clapenders :p
Clap clinic..Babe is so vile but right, will Abi tell Lee , thus Witt? I doubt it seeing as she was willing to drown Lauren..shes ruthless to the core.
So Nancy is only out to get Witt because Lee nicked her job..nice
nice to see Jack back, he was aces as Phil in the Bill.
Clap clinic..Babe is so vile but right, will Abi tell Lee , thus Witt? I doubt it seeing as she was willing to drown Lauren..shes ruthless to the core.
So Nancy is only out to get Witt because Lee nicked her job..nice
nice to see Jack back, he was aces as Phil in the Bill.
I'm surprised really that Babe would be the one to mention Abi's one night stand. I would've thought she'd just scoff and think nothing of it. I'm betting Abi won't say anything; just like her. I wish they'd hurry up and get her found out. With any luck, Babe will find out about her and Lee, and enraged that she might have got her nephew sick she will turn on her and reveal all. (Bit of a longshot, but here's hoping!)
what is going on with Nancy she is looking unwell and pale.... i know re the epilepsy and the incident that happened a few weeks ago but its like im waiting for her to have another one any minute... love Maddie Hill who plays her and she does it so right..... Nancy needs some happiness. lets hope she get is soon....
In Honey's first incarnation on Eastenders, her speech was littered with Malapropisms. Since she's been back, not one. Puzzling.
Even if Abi tells Lee, I've got my doubts he'd tell Whitney since he's so desperate to keep her.
Yes, that would be a good way to reveal the fake pregnancy.
I expect she'll get back with Tamwar sooner or later. She might stay at Masood's since she's friendly with him, so that would lead to reconnecting with Tamwar when he returns.
She's been made more mature and less annoying this time around, which is probably a good thing. I think I did notice a malapropism when she first returned so hopefully she'll still do it from time to time.
Yes, she can be sly and vindictive, but I thought she was genuine this time. I could be wrong though.
I think Nancy may move in with Donna, they seem good pals of late
Who is running the car lot for Phil?
Yes, I think you're probably right about Nancy and Donna.
Petulant toddler Nancy is buging me.
Woldont the first disco night as pub manager cause a fit? I was pondering is it something you need to tell the employer? Its just that maybe they need to know what to do when one happens not upset and call 999 when unless she hurts herself she dosent need an ambulance.
We defo need Dr Leg back.
Where is Vincent magicking up all the dosh from?
Jack was also very lascivious as Phil in the Bill.
Good scenes in the prison. I wonder what Lucas and Jordan are up to, and I hope they don't drag Denise into it. Lucas is very charismatic and I can understand how he worms his way under the defences of people who should know better.
Most employers expect potential employees to declare any relevant medical conditions. I'm not sure of the legalities about epilepsy but it seems like common sense that people who spend a lot of time with epileptics need to know so they can react appropriately to a fit.
It was a huge betrayal for Lee to disclose Nancy's medical history even if she would have done so herself. It's none of his business. She is irritating to watch at the moment but I don't blame her for being angry at the blatant favouritism going on in the family. It used to happen with Johnny too.
Is he still involved in criminal activities? Last thing I remember is he just wanted to be a family man. Are we supposed to believe a half share in The Albert brings in enough to maintain their extravagant lifestyle? :searchme: