is jj really jordan's son or libby or chelsea so really is denise grandson
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is jj really jordan's son or libby or chelsea so really is denise grandson
What a vile thing to do to anyone in public like that. horrid Babs and Horrid Abi.
I'm actually not sure what to think of Babe in tonight's ep. I thought maybe this was just some plan of hers to get in good with someone, like her other plans have been, but now I'm not so sure. I know Babe has issues with her sister Sylvie, who used to belittle her when they were growing up and generally make her life hell, and I got the feeling that was what was implied tonight. Judging by the way Babe was talking to Abi, it sounded more like Babe was talking about her own experience and letting her own emotions and past-pain control her. So much so that she's letting them override her common sense about Ben.
And everything I believed about Abi seems to have been confirmed tonight; her talking about being second-best and everything. She's just so desperate to be loved that she's blinding herself to the truth about Ben.
I find it harder to believe that Abi really is pregnant now. I mean it's just too damn coincidental that she ends up in the club while all this stuff with Ben is happening. I know she's due to go to the doctors, but then again Babe probably has contacts anywhere due to her time when she was selling babies. so she's probably arranged it all.
Loved all the parts with Jordan and JJ. JJ is just sooo cute! I hope Vincent can help get rid of Jordan's debt. I heard that Denise actually suggests at some point to Jordan for him to go visit Lucas. (And Kim was worried Jordan would be the one to bring Lucas back into their lives???)
I have never wanted to smack anybody so much as Witless (apart from Rob from the Archers) I hope Nancy smacks her one. Poor Buster. :(
I was horrified at what Kim had done to the lovely Pearl, it made me feel sick. Disgusting. The Hubbard's/Fox's/Trueman's make a nice family unit. DTC/Lamb don't ruin it!
The duff duff was very cringe worthy but I did enjoy it. :D
Abi better watch out, if she was PG , Babe would see pound signs.
Actually it would be funny if Abi did turn out to be up the duff, it would serve her right. :nono:
I think Babe enjoys stirring and manipulating people. Also, she seems to be living vicariously through Abi by having her "win" Ben back because she regrets not trying to do so with Stan. Plus she sees herself in Abi and sympathises to a degree. I'd be surprised if Babe truly cares about Abi or her relationship with Ben though.Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
I think she's past the point of being blind to the truth about Ben. She acknowledged it tonight to Babe yet still wants him as much as ever. She really is pathetically desperate for a family. This is what Max and Tanya have done to her! :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
I don't think Abi's pregnant. As you say, it's waaay too convenient plus there wasn't a hint of a pregnancy before the big announcement.Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
I believe if you go to a GP and tell them you've taken a pregnancy test and that it's positive, they just take your word for it and refer you to the local ante-natal department. If that is the case, she wouldn't be found out until she has any tests or scans. I suppose her long term plan must be to try and get pregnant in the meantime, or perhaps to "lose" the baby when she can no longer fake it? Anything to keep hold of Ben for a bit longer... :wall:
Jordan and JJ living with Denise and Patrick as a family seems to have happened too easily and quickly. No doubt there's more strife to come; you're probably right that it'll be something to do with Lucas and/or the legacy of his crimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
I wonder if Vincent could be in for trouble from the gang to whom Jordan owes money?
Anyone else wondering if Linzi's too young for Jay? :hmm:
I'm a bit embarrassed to admit I think Whitney makes quite a good bitch. Her smirk at Nancy's expense was classic! :o :DQuote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
She's not going the right way about helping Lee though. The last thing he needs is his sister's enmity. However, I've no doubt part of Whitney's motivation was getting one over on Nancy. :nono:
Lee might go back to working on the fish stall. He obviously felt bad for both Buster and Nancy.
Haven't a clue what the procedure is for pregnancies. I just assumed you had to have an official test from the doctor before anything else. I know they say these home pregnancy tests are efficient now, though personally I would want to hear it from the doctor before celebrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I couldn't believe how pathetic she was tonight though. I mean, it was beyond sad! The way she kept going on, saying "Okay, so sometimes he likes boys..." Hello! He's not bi, he's a straight homosexual, so it's not sometimes!
Even when Jordan showed up, he figured it out immediately, and he hadn't seen Ben for years! "No, he's not gay!" Seriously, what does it take to get through to this girl?!
Nothing good ever happens for long on Albert Square. There'll be heartache to come by soon, make no mistake about it. But I do hope things work out for Jordan and JJ with Denise. It's the first time I've seen her genuinely smile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Yeah, I thought that, too. I know he has experience with this sort of thing, and he's got contacts and back-up, but you can never be too careful with gangs like these.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
He's being set up for some horrid thing I'm sure. And then the gang will know were Jordan is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
He's being set up for some horrid thing I'm sure. And then the gang will know were Jordan is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Earrings on a baby are vile, horrid, digusting, urrghh! Horrid.Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
But yeah the HFT as a family could work really well - long may it last! A much nicer use of Old Mother Hubbard.
Earrings on a baby are vile, horrid, digusting, urrghh! Horrid.Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
But yeah the HFT as a family could work really well - long may it last! A much nicer use of Old Mother Hubbard.
whitney wants to turn lee into mick, she will want him talking cockney loads next and wearing a waistcoat
Here we go again, re-hash of old stories ... didn't somebody from 'The Vic' (Dirty Den) advise Zoe to pretned she was pregnant, and when she said but I'm not told her to get pregnant ...but Dennis wasn't doing the deed so Den stepped in ... well Babe has said to Abi get pregnant, but will Ben and Abi be able to ... or will Babe have to get turkey baster? Hope the plan does NOT work very bad idea to give young girls. I thought she was supposed to be clever :-/
are you suggesting abi and phil :sick:Quote:
Originally Posted by jules29
An enjoyable episode apart from the duff duff. Line of the night goes to Phil 'ooooooooooooooooops.' :D However Harry Reid was bit shouty tonight.
Whitney is turning into a delicious bitcho. And Babe that hat. She looked like she was auditioning for Crossroads as Mrs Shughie McFee. All she needed were the Bag pipe's. I half expected Russ Abbott to pop round the corner.
I found Jay very irritating tonight. Especially as, until tonight, he was the one who was so insistent that Ben end it with Abi.
Suddenly Martin understands Stac is ill..took him long enough.
Abbi knows Ben is gay all babe has done is condem her to her prolonged delusional misery.
Cathys whinny voice really iritates me, has she always sounded like a petulant spoilt kid.
Suddenly Martin understands Stac is ill..took him long enough.
Abbi knows Ben is gay all babe has done is condem her to her prolonged delusional misery.
Cathys whinny voice really iritates me, has she always sounded like a petulant spoilt kid.
I'm beginning to think all Gavin is good for is lurking in the shadows to grab the duff duffs. I know Paul Nicholas had other work booked when he accepted the part of Gavin, but his long disappearances and cliffhanger returns are getting tedious now.
Couldn't EE have found an actor who was available to play the part?
There are indeed similarities to the Zoe storyline, although I wonder if "Dirty" Den didn't set up that scenario to get Zoe into bed with him. At least we can't accuse Babe of that! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by jules29
From the way we were gleefully informed that Abi and Ben had been "celebrating" all weekend, a turkey baster may not be required this time. Hopefully Abi won't get pregnant no matter how much celebrating she and Ben do...
I noticed that too. I usually think he plays Ben well, but he was well over the top in Monday's episode.Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Didn't it just? Still, it's nice to see him being understanding now and doing everything possible to help Stacey. He's really grown on me lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splashy
Babe doesn't care about Abi. She cares about getting her own way, which at the moment happens to be winning back Stan by fair means or foul...oops I mean helping Abi to win back Ben! http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...ppy-514478.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Splashy
Well, it's confirmed anyway that Abi's not pregnant. At least that's one thing they're not going to drag on. I just can't believe how desperate she is. And I can't believe how ridiculous Babe is being, helping her like that. I mean, Ben's gay! Chances are he's not going to want to get physical with Abi, if that's her plan, unless she goes to a sperm bank or something. But that's gonna bite her in the ass if what the latest news says is true!
Gavin is back, and with his usual shadowy entrance at the last second of the episode.
Well he obviously does get jiggy with Abi sometimes or she wouldn't be able to say she's pregnant. Also, didn't they "celebrate" at the weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
All over him?Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
It's a horrid storyline, one destined to end badly. He's gay Abi, doesn't want a baby and doesn't want you. So leave him alone. Babe is pure evil. Bitching at Whitney about her valentines day with Lee.
I think Whitney's done mean thing regards Lee's sister over the job, but she's standing up for her man. It's not like there's only two pubs that they could work in.
Lovely line off Dot in the Cafe to Kath about 'valentines is for couples, not people like us' .. :)
And Pantomime Villain is back. Boo.
I've said it before and I'll it now. Why do these people leave their doors on the latch?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
Or are all the folk expert housebreakers?
The police will tell you most burglaries happen through insecurities: people leaving doors and windows open. We are a nation of idiots.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah c
Quite correct Mr.P. Abi has slept with Ben on more than one occasion, bragged about it to all and sundry at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Didn't Abi claim to be pregnant 3 or 4yrs ago when she was with Jay ?
Or you love boys to Ben :pQuote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
I think Abi needs to go see her mother or Tanya come pay her a visit
Babe is evil!!! I'm worried about what she's going to do to poor Les after he so effectively put her in her place. The woman has no shame - and probably no depths to which she won't sink. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...vil-042296.gif
I find Gavin a mesmerising character when he's quietly manipulating people (rather than sensational nonsense with fireworks). Kathy denied him for a long time tonight but he kept picking at the scab until she caved. At least Dot wasn't having any of it! :clap:
Nice to see Tracy getting more lines recently. So she quite likes the smell of fish... :sick:
I hadnt realised that was Paul Nicholas, that soppy love sitcom when we only had one telly did my head in.
Dipping your chips in her Kurma..was that a euphemism :ninja: may be I dreamt that line :moonie:
Les will be outed but it will end well, babe is a low IQ villian with an inability to understand repercussions will bite her on the bodies cushoned area.
RE above..Im still not warming to new Martin, insensative ignorant dull minded thug..oh wait that could be a descrption of me :wall:
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Originally Posted by Splashy
Dear script writers, if you put petrol on stuff and light it then it'll all be burnt by the time you stumble about in the dark on an unfamiliar allotment site for the tap and a bucket...
I know they want a storyline but having a picture drop in the dark and be missed would have felt more sensible to me.
Poor Les.
Nasty babe.
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Originally Posted by Splashy
Dear script writers, if you put petrol on stuff and light it then it'll all be burnt by the time you stumble about in the dark on an unfamiliar allotment site for the tap and a bucket...
I know they want a storyline but having a picture drop in the dark and be missed would have felt more sensible to me.
Poor Les.
Nasty babe.
Babe will do damage with that photo, blackmail Les or Paul
Babe is so bitter and twisted she may bypass the blackmail stage and go straight out to destroy any relationships she can. I think if Babe ruins Les's chance of a reconciliation with Pam either Babe or Les will end up in the Coker funeral parlour.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I hope you're right that it'll end well. Even if it does, I don't want to see Les made a laughing stock or worse in the meantime. I don't think Pam could cope if his secret were made public knowledge either. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Splashy
I'm not so sure Babe has a low IQ. Things often don't go her way, but she's sneaky and very manipulative which requires some brainpower. She got away with selling babies for years too which tells me she can think on her feet. I think she's one of those people that are always underestimated and she probably plays on that.
But Martin has been sensitive recently! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Splashy
You don't come across as an ignorant, dull-minded thug, but maybe you're lulling us into a false sense of security? http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...vil-695223.gif
Perhaps that's why she doesn't seem to have many friends to talk to....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Tracey was funny in Tuesday's episode. I think because it was so random made even more so. 'I quite like the smell of fish.' :D
Daran Little wrote a good script, the Les and Pam scenes were very strong and I thought the scenes with Dot, Kathy and Gavin were good and we had a mention of Ethel and her little Willy. The only thing is when I am watching Paul Nicholas all I can think of is the shredded wheat on his head. That is a bad syrup. I also had to smile at the not so subtle plug for BBC 3 going on line by Sonia.
Im also a secret lemonade drinker. :cheer:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
"But Martin has been sensitive recently! :p "
Its just a difficult issue for me, he did the wrong things up to now, he knew the score with Stacy off her meds ,yet still left her lone in charge of baby.
But then didnt Sonia dump him because of his diconect with her issues and out with lads agenda.
I found that difficult too, and even skipped a couple of episodes because I couldn't bear to watch it. I suppose I've been able to forgive Martin because he's been great since he got Stacey to hospital and has redeemed himself somewhat in my eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splashy
I see his inaction as stupidity rather than insensitivity. To be honest, the whole thing makes such little sense to me that I've mostly blotted it out of my memory! :D
She did indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splashy
denny is looking all better hanging with granddad
Yeah, I'm willing to bet Denny's a future-Gavin. They're definitely alike. And already it looks like Denny's got a hero-worship of him, as he was willing to go behind his mom's back and text him. Somehow, I don't see this ending well.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Typical; Abi finally sees sense, only for her to chicken out and continue lying to Ben, just because he started saying "I love you" at the doctors. Seriously, I don't know who I'm more mad at: Abi for her lying and ridiculous delusions with Ben! Or Ben for not learning to tell the truth, and to keep saying 'I love you' to her when he knows it's not true! Sometimes I wonder if it would be better for him to have his mouth sown shut.