Why is Jay and Ben so against Phil, I understand Sharon is mad over Denny, is Ben still mad over Kathy being alive
Is Denise and Patrick living with Kim?
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Why is Jay and Ben so against Phil, I understand Sharon is mad over Denny, is Ben still mad over Kathy being alive
Is Denise and Patrick living with Kim?
I think they're angry about his recent drunken behaviour. However, given the very long list of wrongdoings they've previously forgiven, along with the fact that he's an alcoholic, I find it a strange time for them to decide to turn their backs on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
They're just staying while the building work to separate the two houses that make up the B&B is being done.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I thought Shirley was going to go check on Linda and apologise, again I was wrong :wall:
Can the writers put in one scene of Shirley apologising to Linda
If they were gonna do that, they probably would have done by now. I think it's gonna be one of those things that they're just gonna skip over.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Ronnie "I'll get you a new liver even if I have to go out and get you one myself..."
I wouldn't put it past her!
Ronnie "I'll get you a new liver even if I have to go out and get you one myself..."
I wouldn't put it past her!
Tuesday's episode was a rare chance for both Nitin Ganatra and Diane Parish to shine. Both their characters are badly underused, particularly Denise in the last couple of years.
I thought the actress who played Hannah was very good. I assume there's a lot more to come with her story. When I saw the "five" on Ronnie's cheque, I thought at first she'd given them five hundred thousand pounds! (In my defence, she had just implied to Honey that she was made of money! :o) However, I rewound and saw she'd actually given them five thousand. :D
Nope. No way is Dean gonna plead guilty. If he had a conscience, it would have shown up by now. Geez, even tonight he was starting to deny the charges yet again.
I wonder what Shabs is gonna ask Kush?
God Tam, you have got to be the biggest idiot in the history of the entire world! What is wrong with him?! Nancy was practically begging to get back together with him, and he just let her go?!
was honey babysitting arthur
He's definitely not going to grow a conscience now, but he might plead guilty to regain Shirley's approval. He's terrified deep down of being abandoned by her again. PlusQuote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one to be annoyed at him. I think we were expected to sympathise when he wept after Nancy had left, but I just thought he'd really let her down again. She couldn't have done more to give him the message she didn't want to break up. All he needed to do was show he cared. :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
I've found him quite unlikable recently.
It was enjoyable to see Lucas, and unnerving to see poor Denise having to stop herself from falling under his spell. Did I pick up a hint he could try to appeal on the grounds of insanity at the time of his crimes? :eek:
I'm not sure of the legalities of something like that though. I can't remember his original plea, and all it says in Wikipedia is that he was sentenced to life.
Well, that would be typical Dean behaviour, given his mommy complex. And it would also be EE through and through. They rarely do anything realistic lately. Keeping Bobby's secret this long, Dean's reactions during the year... Sometimes I wonder if they do as much research as they claim they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Ugh! He drives me mad. I wish they'd get rid of his character, especially after tonight. I hate him for what he's put Nancy through, and he is such a whinger it makes me wanna strangle him!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Well, he was definitely insane at the time. Whether he still is now or not remains to be seen. I can't think how he would be able to get out though. I know I just said that EE rarely does anything realistically lately, but getting Lucas out of prison, after the murder of THREE people???! There is just no way that would happen in real life! The legal system isn't THAT bad!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Even if he was insane, he would have to go through all the legal channels, get psychiatric treatment, and still have to serve out a minimum time.
I think we've all wondered that! If they do the research, they then proceed to completely ignore it most of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
I usually like Tamwar, but I wouldn't be sorry to see him go at the moment. Perhaps he could use Shabnam's ticket to Pakistan?Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
I completely agree, and I don't think the idea would have entered my head if I hadn't readQuote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
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the look lucas gave dean, could he kill again
I hope that's all it is. The idea of him returning is just too ridiculous and completely unrealistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Perhaps he had the same forensic "expert" at his trial as Tracy in Corrie did at hers.......Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
Jade was right to be angry and upset. Shabs needs to stop running away.
Tam and Nancy breaking up was a bit weak - but he had got the cold shoulder from her parents the previous night and probably feels he did let her down.
Jade was right to be angry and upset. Shabs needs to stop running away.
Tam and Nancy breaking up was a bit weak - but he had got the cold shoulder from her parents the previous night and probably feels he did let her down.
Tam has a very low opinion of himself. In spite of what most say on here, I do feel sorry for him. I think he just feels, as he said last night, that Nancy is out of his league. He doesn't want to intentionally hurt her, he just doesn't feel good enough for her. He knows he's a bit of a geek and doesn't have the confidence to break free from this.
I silently cheered Jade when she didn't pull any punches with Shabnam. I know the latter's in a very painful situation with Arthur, Zaair's tragic death and the news of her inability to conceive again, but she gave no thought to the child she'd abandoned once already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
Yes the fact she isn't in a nice white coat that ties your arms up is remarkable. She's had an awful time. It is easy to lose sight of the positives when the negatives come at you top speed. She has the chance to work on her relationship with Jade and get her back properly in her life, but overwhelmed by Zaair and now Arthur.. she is sinking and the person who should have been her lifeboat is the one throwing her overboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Yes the fact she isn't in a nice white coat that ties your arms up is remarkable. She's had an awful time. It is easy to lose sight of the positives when the negatives come at you top speed. She has the chance to work on her relationship with Jade and get her back properly in her life, but overwhelmed by Zaair and now Arthur.. she is sinking and the person who should have been her lifeboat is the one throwing her overboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I totally understand your point and would have sympathised with Tamwar if he hadn't been downright cruel to Nancy - even though it was unintentional. I already felt he was being pushy and insincere with her before last night, which didn't help his case. I do think that behaviour's been out of character however and I'm sure their split won't last long.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Agreed. Hopefully it was a wake up call to get her to prioritise working on her relationship with Jade and find some happiness. I still want her to get custody eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
Brilliant scenes with Stacy and Shabnam.
I am going to miss Shabham and Jade :(
oh I have just cried through most of that episode.
why did shirley give jade to shabnam
kush free now for stacey
why did shirley give jade to shabnam
kush free now for stacey
Well that was highly emotive! I feel stunned after watching Shabnam's last episode. :crying:
Me too! I went through a whole load of tissues. I'm gutted Rakhee's left, but at least she left on a high. She's made the character of Shabnam a pivotal and complex one in her two short years in EastEnders. I'm sure she'll go on to great things. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
She did the right thing for once. It's redeemed her somewhat in my eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Storyseeker was correct about Dean pleading not guilty. :clap:
I really wanted this to be the end of the rape storyline! At least Dean stayed true to his character I suppose, and there's always a chance he'll change his plea. He wasn't happy about losing Shirley's support.
Kudos to the writer of that episode. It was perfect! :cheer:
Well, I called it. I knew Dean was never gonna plead guilty. The time for him growing a conscience has long since past. I pity poor Shirley, though I don't know why she was so shocked. The woman is obviously too gullible when it comes to him. Loved the part where he was denied bail and taken down! Strange, though, as I also thought the rape storyline would be finished here, as I thought Matt Di Angelo was finished with EE now. But I guess they're gonna keep this dragging on for a while longer, which I suppose is realistic when it comes to courts and hearings. Even in real life, solicitors and judges etc keep it going on and on and on and on...
His hearing is set for June? So I'm guessing that if we see Dean again, it probably won't be until around then.
It was sad to see Shabs go, but it was a sweet departure for her and Jade. I am sorry to see Jade go, though, even more. I liked seeing scenes with her, Shirley etc. But Kush was the one I felt most sorry for. Even at the end he kept trying to reach Shabs as she drove away.
I'm liking the sound of Jordan even less and less, but part of me is actually rooting for Denise to try and help him. I know that it seems more likely that they're gonna write Jordan as a villain, but he's still a kid. He's been through a lot, what with his mum murdered by his dad and everything. It's really no wonder he turned out like he has. And I don't like the way people are quick to write him off. I understand why his aunt turned her back on him, as she had her family, and I understand why everyone's so hesitant...but they still shouldn't be so quick to turn their backs on him until they've at least met him and given him a chance. I like to think that there's hope for everyone. Maybe not for Dean, as he's had his fair share of chances that he's blown, but with Jordan who has yet to make an appearance there's still hope.
I mean, for all I know Jordan may do a Dean and turn out bad anyway, but everyone deserves help when they need it, and Jordan certainly sounds like someone in desperate need of help. If they do nothing then there's no hope for him, but everyone should at least "try" to help someone redeem themselves.
What a sad episode, I cried through the last few scenes. Shabs was my favourite character and I felt so bad for Kush even though he cheated on her. I suppose now the way is clear Kush and Stacey will be together, not something I'd look forward to at all. I was glad though that Shirley did the right and unselfish thing in the end and let Jade be with her mother. And my other favourite couple, Tamwar and Nancy broke up, too. :(
Agree sad to see Shabs leave , good decision from Shirley and found out Jade's view. I just wish the transfer of Jade from Shirley to Shabs could have been handled with more account taken of the legal process,even if there was a delay in Jade's departure,fora aweek or so. Having said that the original court order decision process was unrealistic.
felt their exits was rushed, rahkee is a big loss great actress
It was rushed but it felt well planned and heartfelt - not just an afterthought (like Lola's last episode for example). I wonder if it was done that way to keep Shabnam's exit a surprise? It certainly shocked lots of us!Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Caught up with the last two episodes of EE and Friday's was very sad with Shabnam leaving. I am a sucker for Julia's theme. I loved how she didn't look at Kush in the taxi as she drove off. You deserve so much more Shabs and for some reason I just want to punch Carmel. They are going to really miss Rakhee Thakrar, a great talent, I am sure she will go on to many great roles. Nice performances from Maddie Hill and of course Diane Parish. Just love Denise. '4 minutes and ping.' :D What is the matter with Tamwar, he needs putting in a bag and given a good shake or a kick up the ****. Get a grip man!
P.S glad Jade has gone, she was a bit over bearing.
I agree Carmel's been annoying recently and I usually like her. The way Masood spoke to her was totally out of order though!
Aww...I find Jade entertaining and am hoping she'll visit occasionally. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Keeping Jade close might even be the reason why Shabnam was written as staying in London as opposed to moving to Pakistan. It's quite unusual for a departing soap character to stay within easy visiting distance of their former home.
perhaps Jade got it from Shirley.!!Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Although it was right for Shirley to let Jade go
with Shabs! I hope thats not meant to redeem
her character of the things she has done over the
last year or so and how shes behaved with Linda!!