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I was quite surprised too. It's natural for feelings to develop when two people are sleeping together, especially in this case where neither of them had romantic feelings for anyone else. The trouble is most of the relationship's happened off screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
drunk phil funny and how much more of whitney, kick her out carters
I wouldn't mind if she was apologetic about Ryan stealing the money! :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
That fight at the end did make me laugh. It was soooo obvious Mick and Linda would walk in! :D
I don't think it's realistic that Ryan's still literally "on the run" after five years. I suppose he had to be written as desperate in order to cause maximum trouble for Whitney.
Strange that Martin seems to have forgotten it was only yesterday he was the one swearing to unite Stacey and Arthur. I did like the way he dealt with Ryan though.
I wonder if it'll be another five years until we see Whitney's brother again?
And so say all of us!Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Another good episode, if this carries on we can forgive most of 2015. :D
Nothing else to add really, phil was brilliant drunk, the Kathy scenes with Martin were excellent, Shabnam is almost in line to be a saint and Martin has really grown on me. Couldn't stop laughing at Jay pretending to be Abi.
I was hoping Nancy was going to batter Witless, the pikey trollop. Lee is better off without her. The only good bit of Ryan was when he came out of the shower/bath with that towel. I was almost licking my lips like Babe. :)
Well it appears having got rid of Dean (the previous not-so-nice bearded bloke) we now have a new not-so-nice bearded bloke.
Poor Lily.
Poor Martin - not coping with housework and laundry, has no one offered to go and help him yet other than his godmum kathy going to hospital with him.
Shabs is lovely even if she did have a bit of a rant at Stacey.
The robbery and fight was just silly. They should be brave and just write people out rather than taint them.
Well it appears having got rid of Dean (the previous not-so-nice bearded bloke) we now have a new not-so-nice bearded bloke.
Poor Lily.
Poor Martin - not coping with housework and laundry, has no one offered to go and help him yet other than his godmum kathy going to hospital with him.
Shabs is lovely even if she did have a bit of a rant at Stacey.
The robbery and fight was just silly. They should be brave and just write people out rather than taint them.
I have to say, Im poorly sighted and for a horifying second I thought Matt Willis was back. :cartman:
Where is Rebecca, is she away at boarding school?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
I think Sonia helps Martin by minding Arthur or Lily, I think that was mentioned
I really like new Martin, I think James is doing very well as Martin
Anyone else think there was a hint of a spark of chemistry between Ryan and Nancy besides me, I do like her with Tamwar but they have gone boring and stale lately
yes I got that too..???Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I don't think Ryan is anywhere near as bad as Dean. I took him to be desperate rather than outright villainous during this brief return. I'd be quite happy to see him come back full time. Whitney could do with some family in Walford.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
Are you talking about Whitney? If so, I agree. She was once a fantastic character who's been through so much, and it saddens me that she's being written in such a way that many viewers have zero sympathy for her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
Yes Poor Whitney has had such a lot of storyline to end up being sort of dirtied like this is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Presumably there was an inquest for the bloke who drowned (?Think thats what I read) so are the police looking for him or not?
Yes Poor Whitney has had such a lot of storyline to end up being sort of dirtied like this is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Presumably there was an inquest for the bloke who drowned (?Think thats what I read) so are the police looking for him or not?
Poor you, that must have been a stressful few seconds! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Splashy
He is, and for the first time I'm now invested in him and Stacey as a couple. I hope they survive the paternity revelation (whenever that happens).Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Rebecca was in the last episode (or was it the one before? - anyway in the last couple of days.)Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Yes, he drowned when they both fell in the sea during a fight on a pier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
I don't there was ever any follow up on screen. Lee said yesterday that it wasn't murder and that Ryan would have been OK if he hadn't panicked and run, which is pretty much what I remember.
was ryan not already away from square on run before killing lip the pimp, did janine fit him up, i could be wrong
I don't really understand why Ryan's life is that bad. Stacey committed murder and years down the line, had a job and a place to live. Although I am not sure whether Stacey was wanted by police or not - if someone could tell me, cheers.
I agree about Ryan and said as much earlier in the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
Stacey was definitely wanted by the police for stabbing Janine (which she didn't actually do - Janine set her up). I suppose Ryan must be wanted by the police, but I'm not sure for what exactly because he didn't deliberately kill Whitney's pimp as far as I can recall. Even if he is wanted for murder, the police aren't going to be actively searching for him after five years. If Stacey can settle down and get a job under an assumed identity, so can he.
Basically, I think his desperation was just a plot device to make matters worse for Whitney.
I thought Stacey was wanted for the murder of Archie Mitchell?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
No, the police weren't aware of Stacey's guilt at that time. Janine (who hated Stacey) found out about it but had no proof, so she stabbed herself and made it look like Stacey had done it.Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
When Kat found Stacey living in London several years later, Janine was about to go on trial for Michael's murder. She made a deal with Kat that she'd clear Stacey's name in return for Kat's testimony that it was Alice who murdered Michael. Stacey then decided to admit to murdering Archie because she could no longer live with the guilt.
Remember there's a second episode of EastEnders on tonight at 8.30pm (repeated on BBC3 at 10.35pm). :)
is alice still in prison?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
mick giving it all large to ryan:p is linda preferring girlie whitney to tomboy daughter nancy, is lee depression gone and forgotten about
Wll, Ian's a complete moron, but then again it's not like we didn't know that. I can't believe he didn't tell the headmistress about Bobby's behaviour. I mean, I get he doesn't want to indicate that his son's a murderer, but he should have told her about his temper and the fact he's been spoilt. School's need to know that sort of stuff. What if he attacks another student?
I was very pleasantly surprised to see Ryan return so he could be redeemed. Lovely scenes between him, Whitney and Mick. I still feel sympathy for Whitney despite the kiss. I'd be surprised if she didn't fall a little bit in love with Mick after the way he supported both herself and Ryan. I bet he's the type of father figure she's always craved. Mick the hero! :cheer:
(However, my sympathy will soon wear thin if she's going to make a play for him... )
I wonder if Ryan turning himself in is laying the groundwork for a future return? I'd like to see Whitney's brother and Lily's father back on the square. He truly loves them both.
Bobby looked happily ensconced in his new school. He may be a little too much in his element there... :eek:
It's nice to see Les and Pam tentatively growing closer again.
No, Janine surprisingly felt guilty when Alice attempted suicide, so she admitted to killing Michael but managed to persuade the jury she was the victim and got off.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
(As an aside, Max was all for Kat perjuring herself and getting his innocent niece sent down so that his beloved Stacey could return. Maybe his current predicament is a touch of karma? :p)
Part 2 was a lot more exciting! I enjoyed the scenes with Phil and the hospital. Of course, Phil's not gonna stop drinking (alcoholics never do at first). I'm willing to bet Louise is gonna be the one whose liver can save Phil's life.
Poor Ronnie. Seems like she's having to deal with one bad thing after another.
I'm glad Mick told L about what happened with Whit. Far as I know, they're the first couple on EE who have ever been straight with one another. I think it's a bit stupid of them, though, for keeping Whit in the house. She's clearly not over Mick.
Yes, it was definitely the right decision by the writers that Mick be straight with Linda. We need have no fear that he'll be tempted by Whitney if she's determined to have him.
I thought I detected I detected a bunny boiler-ish glint in her eye at the end of the second episode. I really hope they don't go down that route... :wall:
im annoyed at mick and linda, their own kids nancy and lee should be their top priority and concern, f%ck whitney and ryan they are not their concern hate this goody two shoes help everyone carters is annoying - ok rant over now
The way Mick dealt with Ryan was partly a clever ploy to get his money back. It wasn't only about him being a goody two shoes. Mick was using his noggin!Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
(I totally heard that last sentence in Danny Dyer's voice! :D)
mick should have called the filth on ryan straight off, he owed whit nothing she isn't with lee longQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
mick should have called the filth on ryan straight off, he owed whit nothing she isn't with lee longQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I probably would have called the police in Mick's shoes. However, he's fond of Whitney and thinks of her like family because Lee loves her, so I can understand why he hesitated.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I think Lee and Whitney have been together a fair while now.
I am glad Mick told Linda as soon as possible about Whitney but I think letting her stay living with them is wrong as Whitney's feelings for Mick are very strong, she loves him
I did laugh at Honey having a Carrie moment with her bloody dress after Phil :p
Has Les given up dressing in ladies clothes now he lives at Billy's flat, is all his dresses at his place with Pam, I do hope they back together soon
The bloody thing was disgusting and sort of funny with how Honey handled it.
Ryan giving himself up was good - I thought that Mick did a good job with him.
The bloody thing was disgusting and sort of funny with how Honey handled it.
Ryan giving himself up was good - I thought that Mick did a good job with him.
Just caught up on Thursday's double bill. A good set of episodes. Steve McFadden should get every award going, superb. It was pretty hard hitting stuff with the blood, poor Honey her dress. Nice scenes with Les and Pam and as always Shabnam was in another class. :bow:
esophageal varices was what Phil had I think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
starts with a bit of dark stained coughing and then erupts, its when you erode the throat with alcohol
I thought Phil was auditioning for the part of Robert Crawley....
That scene made me think of Downton Abbey too! However, Lord Grantham projectile vomiting blood was a lot more shocking and horrifying than Phil doing so. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
i wouldn't eat gourmet curry fish fingers where my smalls would be washed, why couldn't they use massod house or massod stall
I'm getting really fed up of Shabnam and Kush breaking up every five minutes. Given their very complicated situation, I can understand why their relationship is crumbling (plus they weren't very strong to begin with), but I'm starting to find it irritatingly repetitive viewing. :wall:
Sweet scene with Stacey and Arthur. :)
I'm shocked nearly all of Phil's family have abandoned him in his hour of need. He thoroughly deserves it of course, but he's been forgiven so many times before it's feeling a bit unrealistic to me that they decide to dig their heels in when he's at death's door. :hmm: