Lily would be better off staying with Martin a much better role model than a Slutty Aunt and her murdering on the run brother. Ian Beale was right about his description of Witless Whitney describing her as 'a walking STD.' :cheer:
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Lily would be better off staying with Martin a much better role model than a Slutty Aunt and her murdering on the run brother. Ian Beale was right about his description of Witless Whitney describing her as 'a walking STD.' :cheer:
I will have to look up who Ryan is.
It's no good for us people with shocking memories! :)
I will have to look up who Ryan is.
It's no good for us people with shocking memories! :)
It doesn't bear thinking about! I don't think many actors could generate absolutely no sympathy for a character whose child is suffering from cancer. :wall:
My memory for soap storylines is appalling! I'm always amazed at posters who can remember every detail of past plots and characters. You can safely bet that if I've written in detail about something that happened more than a couple of years ago I've refreshed my memory with the help of Wikipedia. :D
I remember Ryan as a bad boy but I liked him on the whole. He was married to Janine but left her for Stacey when he found out Lily was his. He loved Lily (and Stacey) and was gutted when Stacey left with her. He was a good brother to Whitney and (accidentally?) killed the man who forced her into prostitution, after which he went on the run.
Here's Ryan's wiki in case you haven't looked him up yet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Malloy
I was thinking Matt Wiillis from mc busted! Oh boy have I meshed BB and soap forums again. :cartman:
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jean and ollie could take lily while stacey recovers, lily don't know ryan
I'm willing to forgive Whitney a lot because of her history of abuse and exploitation (not that I think she needs forgiving for much, and certainly not for Ryan's involvement in her pimp's death). As Dan says, Ryan's part is also understandable in the circumstances.
Unfortunately the writing for the character's been very poor at times. I'm hopingwill be written sensitively and take into account her past.Spoiler:
Plus, I think she's a positive saint compared to the screeching harpy who brought her up (now there's a character I loathe!). :thumbsdow
Well-its an idea Lizann!
I just hope that in real life - a child like Lily
wouldnt be placed with someone like Jean.
I feel every child deserves a chance and would
hope Lily would get that with someone who
could give her a period of certaintity and
security ?!
Not Jean(imo)
Stacey should be locked up forever.
Its so good Martins not making it all about himself. But its ok cause Stacy is back on some sort of medication.. would that be the ones she stopped while pregnant! Poor Arty, he has a terminaly bod on one side and a screwed up mess on the other as non biological links and dont get me started on Carmel.
Its so good Martins not making it all about himself. But its ok cause Stacy is back on some sort of medication.. would that be the ones she stopped while pregnant! Poor Arty, he has a terminaly bod on one side and a screwed up mess on the other as non biological links and dont get me started on Carmel.
With all that money Alfie and Kat have you thought they would have a better car than that rubbish one.
alfie needs a reliable family car station wagon
ryan thinks he is best for lily, she don't know him
i am shocked kat left this soon with stacey still in hospital and jean back in her own place, at least martin has godmother kathy (didn't know she was)
alfie needs a reliable family car station wagon
ryan thinks he is best for lily, she don't know him
i am shocked kat left this soon with stacey still in hospital and jean back in her own place, at least martin has godmother kathy (didn't know she was)
Martin was very lucky that the hospital Stacey is in allows flowers. Very few do and I don't suppose he checked first.
Witless you stupid bitch. Look what you have done now. Just what Lilly wants a Father who is on the run for murder. Well done. A round of applause for the 'walking STD.' Martin needs to batter Ryan. No sympathy for Ryan whats so ever. None!!!!
A good episode tonight, I hate to say it but the scenes with Kathy and Martin were great. Lovely mention of Pauline and Arthur and a good exit for Kat and Alfie. The paul and Ben storyline is a bit flat and doesn't feel real as we have not seen the characters for such a long time and then up pops this storyline out of no where. Block story telling. Are we to believe everything has been happening off screen? as this is one of DTC favourite devises.
P.S I am looking forward to Abi getting her just desserts. You have SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO got this coming.
Whitney obviously wasn't expecting Ryan to want to take Lily! Hopefully she's now regretting contacting Ryan so hastily. I wonder why he thinks it's a good idea to take his daughter? He could have another partner by now who'd be happy to take her in I suppose. It'd be interesting to find out.
I quite liked the fact that Whitney was so horrified at Ryan's actions lol. It supports my argument that she's a decent person on the whole, but one who doesn't consider the consequences of her actions. I think she could do with growing up a bit. :wall:
Why on earth did Ian phone the headmaster of the boarding school on Christmas Day if they weren't intending on sending Bobby away until September? Couldn't it have waited until after Christmas??? :searchme:
I really enjoyed the Kathy and Martin scenes. Some reminiscing about old times was just what's needed for Martin to feel like a proper Fowler (as some of us spoke about recently on a different thread). He should be integrated more into the Beale family.
Hopefully the Ben/Paul relationship will stop being neglected now. I thought they had promise as a couple at the beginning and think they could work long term.
Me too. I think that's very out of character of Kat!Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I shouldn't think so. I mean, he's on the run for murder, so when would he have time to settle down and find a new girlfriend? You can see the family resemblance between him and Whit; neither of them thinks first before they act. Besides the fact that Lily doesn't know him, does he really think he can take a little girl on the run with him???
It was because he wants to send Bobby there ASAP, which I can understand, as Bobby is totally out of control. though I doubt sending him to that school is gonna help much.
I just want Ben to wake up and be honest with his sexuality finally. It never helps when you deny who you really are. And personally I want that stuck-up crazy b**ch Abi to finally get it, too!
Yeah, I thought so, too, but they had to get rid of Kat and Alfie so that they could start filming that mini-series in Ireland due later this year. I suppose it was the best exit the writers could come up with at the time.
He's probably living somewhere under a new identity, and could have a new family and a job. Stacey was living with someone and working as a hairdresser when Kat found her if you remember.
You're probably right that Ian always intended to send Bobby to away as soon as possible. It doesn't really negate my point about phoning the headmaster on Christmas Day though. Who does that? :wall:
Sending Bobby to boarding school could even worsen Bobby's behaviour, in the same way prison can turn slightly dodgy types into hardened criminals.
I'm still quite fond of Abi! However, I've got little sympathy with her in the Ben situation because she's been complicit in keeping him in the closet in her desperation to be a Mitchell. :D
Both Jean and Kat abandoning Stacey seems so wrong and out of character
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Still don't know how that could have worked though. I mean you have to give your security code and national insurance number and everything nowadays when you start work.
Ian apparently.
Maybe, but it's not exactly prison. All he has to do is cause enough havoc and he can get expelled. Obviously you can't do that with prison.
Bobby definitely needs discipline though. He can't get that at home, as Jane is too soft-hearted and weak-willed.
I wonder how she'd react if she found out that the clan she's devoted herself to is responsible for getting her dad in prison, and she helped them. And the only reason she's with him is because I suspect she's still pining over Jay. I'm sorry but I have no respect for her. She's an idiot who's dating a guy who she knows is gay yet believes it doesn't matter.
I really hope to god that Ben goes through with it and admits the truth, but knowing EE he's probably gonna chicken out at the end. Seems to be their theme nowadays. First with Bobby, where everyone nearly finds out the truth, but of course then something unexpected happens and then everyone is none the wiser. Then with Fatboy's murder and Ronnie not knowing the truth. Kat's secret son is about the only secret that has truly gotten found out.
Abi is desperate to be loved I do feel some bit sorry for her but in his own way Ben does love her just not romantically
I wish Lauren has told Abi the truth about Max and Ben
I do think Abi could catch Ben with Paul and still turn a blind eye
I've no idea how people live under false identities, but some seem to find a way - even in real life. Stealing the identity of a dead child is a method that's often depicted in fiction.
He might learn to hide his real nature better and avoid getting expelled. It'll all depend if he likes it there and wants to stay. I think he could meet like-minded boys he can learn from (which is why I compared it to prison).
Like tammyy2j says, Abi's desperate to be loved and be part of a family. She never felt wanted by her own family. It's quite sad when you think about it which is why I can't hate her. She knows deep down Ben's gay of course, but has deluded herself (with his help) that it was just a phase he's now over. They're both guilty of using each other for their own ends, but at the same time I believe they both care for each other so I feel quite sorry for both of them.
I agree Ben won't admit the truth when Abi returns. Paul's now been dragged into the mess too. :(
I was quite surprised when Paul told Ben he loved him, thought Ben would say it first as to me their "relationship" is more about getting frisky even in the funeral parlour than deep and emotional