Ross Barton (Michael Parr)

Mike Parr still plays evasive on Twitter about whether Ross' body is found in the ditch in the woods on Emmerdale tonight.

twitter.com tweets from Monday August 24th 2015:

Andrea Pearson ‏@andypear_1981 16h
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Theory is body is not Ross, he's still alive but bang 2 head means he's 4got who he is! Am I close @MikeParrActor ??

Andrea Pearson added,
Emmerdale @emmerdale
TONIGHT: James and Emma IDENTIFY Ross's body? Watch a clip now! #Emmerdale http://bit.ly/1UXNNY2
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Michael Parr ‏@MikeParrActor 16h
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@andypear_1981 I don't know mate. They stop sending you the scripts when you leave but I seriously doubt it
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Source: https://twitter.com/MikeParrActor/with_replies

Question: "Theory is body is not Ross, he's still alive but bang 2 head means he's 4got who he is! Am I close ??"
Mike Parr: "I don't know mate. They stop sending you the scripts when you leave but I seriously doubt it"

This just comes across to me as ambiguous again.

First off, he appears to deny knowing if the body in the mortuary isn't Ross. Second off, he appears to deny knowing if Ross is still alive.

When he writes "I don't know mate", does he really mean something like 'I don't know (of any way in which I can possibly tell you what I know) mate'? "I don't know" is a classic reply for a police suspect when being questioned, the hope being that the police won't otherwise have enough evidence to prove the suspect's guilt. Mike Parr is very matey with all of the cast (him, Charley Webb and Anthony Quinlan come across as quite the 'inner circle' really) and filming for tonight's Emmerdale involved a lot of people in the storyline (James, Emma, Debbie, Finn, Pete, to name the main ones). I doubt if Mike knows nothing about the storyline. Plus, why have 'Michael and Anthony' been 'busy boys on-set these days' on the Emmerdale set up to at least week ending August 14th, doing what there exactly, as his character was dumped for dead in the ditch in the woods in the TV episode on August 6th, this being likely filmed around June 2015, about 6 weeks earlier?

Third off, he generalises when he says "They stop sending you the scripts when you leave". This is a true general statement about someone who has left but he didn't make it personal for himself and write 'They stopped sending me scripts when I left'

Fourth off, he says "I seriously doubt it". Does he mean he doubts if Ross is still alive, or if Ross has amnesia, or if the questioner isn't close in his suggestions, or does he really mean something like 'I seriously doubt it (is possible to answer you about this before tomorrow's episode gets screened on TV)'?

Everything still unclear.

Emmerdale screens the hour-long episode about James and Pete going to the woods tonight, Tuesday August 25th. If there isn't a cliffhanger ending lined up to keep viewers not knowing until tomorrow, then we'll find out tonight if Ross remains missing or is found dead. The majority of the news media for nearly the last three weeks now has so far stated Ross was killed off in the August 6th episode, but there are signs from several other reliable sources that we haven't seen the last of Ross yet.

e.g.
Sunday World, August 16th 2015, published an interview with Charley Webb, Mike Parr, Louise Marwood and Anthony Quinlan on the Emmerdale set during a weekday before August 16th:
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Michael and Anthony are busy boys on-set these days after the fall-out from the wedding revelations continue for Pete and Ross. "Two brothers, one woman...it's big", smiles Michael.
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Source: https://twitter.com/sher222_sher/sta...74322332774400

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Originally Posted by Telly Watcher

I don't think Pete has liked Ross for a long time, most of the time they've just seemed to put up with each other. There always seems to have been rivalry between them over the last 2 years, they're opposites really and Ross has never been the hard-working steady farming type which Pete is, in fact I think Ross hates farming. Pete has tried setting Ross up for trouble before. For example, he tried to set up Ross for stealing cash back in June 2015 knowing that the police were about to visit the farm and look around. The Debbie/Ross affair (I just realised it could be called the 'dross' affair, haha!) was rivalry and competition in action between two opposite brothers, one seemingly passive, quiet and boring, the other other active, loud and wild. Which one was Debbie really going to have a chance of choosing at this point of her life?

There was more rivalry when Ross really tried to wreck Pete's wedding by putting the Ross/Debbie recorded conversation as the soundtrack to be played as Debbie walked up the aisle. The fight at the hospital was another example. What started as an angry fight between two males competing for one woman turned much darker when Pete didn't stop after Ross fell backwards, hit the back of his head on the raised paving slab and just lay there unconscious on the ground. If I'd been Pete and seen this happen in front of me, I'm certain that the alarm bells would have been ringing very loudly in my head at that point but I think that in Pete's case the adrenalin had already kicked in then and he couldn't stop as he then repeatedly punched Ross in the head (almost as a finishing 'coup de grace') whilst he was laying on the ground and out cold. After this, he got worried and checked for a neck pulse, couldn't find it and then got scared thinking he'd killed Ross. What happened next was certainly not love in any way. Pete decided to run and get the car to take Ross' body away. (Contrast this behavour of Pete's to that of Aaron's in Emmerdale village outside the village hall earlier when Aaron called over to trained nurse Emma that he couldn't find a pulse for Joanie and for whom Emma found a weak pulse). I think if Pete had had any love for Ross at that point then he would have gone into the hospital and got help, but he didn't. Even if Ross was dead, the hospital staff would have properly looked after the body and cared for it. Instead of this, Pete dropped his brother into the boot of a car, drove it miles away to a deserted wood, then carried Ross on his shoulders quite a way and then dropped him in a dirty ditch and just covered it with some branches and leaves. Yes Pete was sick then by a tree, but I think this was from fear and worry for himself, the physical exertion and stress. Pete's facial expression where he is looking at the body in the boot of the car at the hospital and at the body in the ditch in the woods can only be described as cold. Pete then drove back to his house in Emmerdale, disposed of his shoes and clothes in a bin bag for the refuse bin outside, changed into new clothes from the washer and then drove back to Hotten, showing up at the hospital after being about 2.5 hours away. So not exactly a good example of brotherly love really.

The Tuesday or Wednesday episode (August 25th/26th) this week is supposed to tell us if Ross remains missing or if James and Pete find Ross' dead body in the ditch. I think the ditch will be empty and that Ross will eventually return to the village and cause more rivalry between himself and Pete over Debbie. I suspect that Debbie will still not have Pete in her life much more then (if at all?) and that there will be more of the dross affair until Debbie leaves Emmerdale on our TV screens around Christmas 2015 for about 6 months for maternity leave (I suppose Charley Webb will have an obvious baby bump by October 2015 so this may be when she stops filming scenes). I wonder what Debbie's exit storyline will be. Perhaps Pete goes Cameron and causes Debbie/Ross/Moses to leave the village for months and months until Debbie can marry Ross and it's safer to return? Anything could happen next really.

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Again..it's strange how differently we viewers watch soaps and read things, like their facial expressions, possible feelings and emotions.
Pete and Ross haven't been very close for a long time-but they were when they were young. If you remember what Pete saw when he was just a small boy(his mom trying to kill his baby brother)and he carried this secret with him for years. And when it did come out, they all turned against Emma. All three were close then. It was Ross's dodgy dealings with Donna and then Debbie who totally poisoned their brotherly relationship. If I had a brother like Ross I would find it really hard to love him as well and accept what he's doing, but deep down I still would I'm sure. And Pete did/does too, Ross was just winding him up bit too far..And even when Pete was punching him Ross said: 'Is that all you've got?!'
First I was disgusted too of what Pete did. That's because I was shocked to see Ross dead(that's what I thought then..) but I can see it all more objectively since, and from Pete's point of view also.
I find it strange that so many people see it so clearly only in black or white. That because Pete did this, he couldn't love his brother. He certainly didn't love him at that very moment, he hated him for what he had done. But he also didn't mean to kill him. Pete wasn't a fighter, Ross was-and maybe he didn't realize that he could actually beat his brother in a fight-that's why he was using all the strenght he possibly had while Ross was further challenging him in a way ' c'mon bring it on!' by saying ' is that all you've got?!' with a smirk on his face. Why didn't Ross step back and say he was sorry? No way, he had to further humiliate his brother.
It's all Debbie's doing. Why was she playing two brothers? And everyone treating her like a victim on this.

So-Pete really didn't think he could actually cause that much physical harm to him, as he had always seen Ross as the strong one who has always won all the fights. And he most likely didn't see what we saw-he didn't see him hitting his head, that's why he still kicked him when he was on the ground(which of course was too much and totally wrong). Then when he realized he couldn't feel the pulse, he panicked. The reality sank in 'what have I done?' I don't know-haven't been in that kind of situation but yes, would assume that you are firstly thinking of yourself-natural defence mechanism when you do something wrong. Not right thing to do, but quite natural.
He drove the body in the woods-and I could feel his pain when he was driving..I'm sure he was stressed, in panic, felt physically sick, sad all that...everything flashing in front of his eyes..

As I said-he didn't mean to kill his brother, it just happened.
Yes, he has committed couple of crimes so far. He started the fight(quite understandable though even though I'm so against any kind of violence and couldn't really watch their fight either..makes me sick), he didn't call for help, he dumped the 'body', he tried to put the blame on Cain and lied. But all this is just quite natural course of events for anyone who finds themselves in such circumstances I would imagine.
Human mind is scary but interesting.

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Originally Posted by Telly Watcher

I don't think Pete has liked Ross for a long time, most of the time they've just seemed to put up with each other. There always seems to have been rivalry between them over the last 2 years, they're opposites really and Ross has never been the hard-working steady farming type which Pete is, in fact I think Ross hates farming. Pete has tried setting Ross up for trouble before. For example, he tried to set up Ross for stealing cash back in June 2015 knowing that the police were about to visit the farm and look around. The Debbie/Ross affair (I just realised it could be called the 'dross' affair, haha!) was rivalry and competition in action between two opposite brothers, one seemingly passive, quiet and boring, the other other active, loud and wild. Which one was Debbie really going to have a chance of choosing at this point of her life?

There was more rivalry when Ross really tried to wreck Pete's wedding by putting the Ross/Debbie recorded conversation as the soundtrack to be played as Debbie walked up the aisle. The fight at the hospital was another example. What started as an angry fight between two males competing for one woman turned much darker when Pete didn't stop after Ross fell backwards, hit the back of his head on the raised paving slab and just lay there unconscious on the ground. If I'd been Pete and seen this happen in front of me, I'm certain that the alarm bells would have been ringing very loudly in my head at that point but I think that in Pete's case the adrenalin had already kicked in then and he couldn't stop as he then repeatedly punched Ross in the head (almost as a finishing 'coup de grace') whilst he was laying on the ground and out cold. After this, he got worried and checked for a neck pulse, couldn't find it and then got scared thinking he'd killed Ross. What happened next was certainly not love in any way. Pete decided to run and get the car to take Ross' body away. (Contrast this behavour of Pete's to that of Aaron's in Emmerdale village outside the village hall earlier when Aaron called over to trained nurse Emma that he couldn't find a pulse for Joanie and for whom Emma found a weak pulse). I think if Pete had had any love for Ross at that point then he would have gone into the hospital and got help, but he didn't. Even if Ross was dead, the hospital staff would have properly looked after the body and cared for it. Instead of this, Pete dropped his brother into the boot of a car, drove it miles away to a deserted wood, then carried Ross on his shoulders quite a way and then dropped him in a dirty ditch and just covered it with some branches and leaves. Yes Pete was sick then by a tree, but I think this was from fear and worry for himself, the physical exertion and stress. Pete's facial expression where he is looking at the body in the boot of the car at the hospital and at the body in the ditch in the woods can only be described as cold. Pete then drove back to his house in Emmerdale, disposed of his shoes and clothes in a bin bag for the refuse bin outside, changed into new clothes from the washer and then drove back to Hotten, showing up at the hospital after being about 2.5 hours away. So not exactly a good example of brotherly love really.

The Tuesday or Wednesday episode (August 25th/26th) this week is supposed to tell us if Ross remains missing or if James and Pete find Ross' dead body in the ditch. I think the ditch will be empty and that Ross will eventually return to the village and cause more rivalry between himself and Pete over Debbie. I suspect that Debbie will still not have Pete in her life much more then (if at all?) and that there will be more of the dross affair until Debbie leaves Emmerdale on our TV screens around Christmas 2015 for about 6 months for maternity leave (I suppose Charley Webb will have an obvious baby bump by October 2015 so this may be when she stops filming scenes). I wonder what Debbie's exit storyline will be. Perhaps Pete goes Cameron and causes Debbie/Ross/Moses to leave the village for months and months until Debbie can marry Ross and it's safer to return? Anything could happen next really.

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Again..it's strange how differently we viewers watch soaps and read things, like their facial expressions, possible feelings and emotions.
Pete and Ross haven't been very close for a long time-but they were when they were young. If you remember what Pete saw when he was just a small boy(his mom trying to kill his baby brother)and he carried this secret with him for years. And when it did come out, they all turned against Emma. All three were close then. It was Ross's dodgy dealings with Donna and then Debbie who totally poisoned their brotherly relationship. If I had a brother like Ross I would find it really hard to love him as well and accept what he's doing, but deep down I still would I'm sure. And Pete did/does too, Ross was just winding him up bit too far..And even when Pete was punching him Ross said: 'Is that all you've got?!'
First I was disgusted too of what Pete did. That's because I was shocked to see Ross dead(that's what I thought then..) but I can see it all more objectively since, and from Pete's point of view also.
I find it strange that so many people see it so clearly only in black or white. That because Pete did this, he couldn't love his brother. He certainly didn't love him at that very moment, he hated him for what he had done. But he also didn't mean to kill him. Pete wasn't a fighter, Ross was-and maybe he didn't realize that he could actually beat his brother in a fight-that's why he was using all the strenght he possibly had while Ross was further challenging him in a way ' c'mon bring it on!' by saying ' is that all you've got?!' with a smirk on his face. Why didn't Ross step back and say he was sorry? No way, he had to further humiliate his brother.
It's all Debbie's doing. Why was she playing two brothers? And everyone treating her like a victim on this.

So-Pete really didn't think he could actually cause that much physical harm to him, as he had always seen Ross as the strong one who has always won all the fights. And he most likely didn't see what we saw-he didn't see him hitting his head, that's why he still kicked him when he was on the ground(which of course was too much and totally wrong). Then when he realized he couldn't feel the pulse, he panicked. The reality sank in 'what have I done?' I don't know-haven't been in that kind of situation but yes, would assume that you are firstly thinking of yourself-natural defence mechanism when you do something wrong. Not right thing to do, but quite natural.
He drove the body in the woods-and I could feel his pain when he was driving..I'm sure he was stressed, in panic, felt physically sick, sad all that...everything flashing in front of his eyes..

As I said-he didn't mean to kill his brother, it just happened.
Yes, he has committed couple of crimes so far. He started the fight(quite understandable though even though I'm so against any kind of violence and couldn't really watch their fight either..makes me sick), he didn't call for help, he dumped the 'body', he tried to put the blame on Cain and lied. But all this is just quite natural course of events for anyone who finds themselves in such circumstances I would imagine.
Human mind is scary but interesting.

And I hope Ross or Pete won't have anything to do with Debbie after this and Debbie ends up leaving the village on her own (even without kids).

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Originally Posted by mariba

And I hope Ross or Pete won't have anything to do with Debbie after this and Debbie ends up leaving the village on her own (even without kids).

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She will leave the village, with or without kids and husband or lover, will be interesting to see and how they are going to get her to return after Charlie´s maternity leave

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Originally Posted by mariba

Again..it's strange how differently we viewers watch soaps and read things, like their facial expressions, possible feelings and emotions.
Pete and Ross haven't been very close for a long time-but they were when they were young. If you remember what Pete saw when he was just a small boy(his mom trying to kill his baby brother)and he carried this secret with him for years. And when it did come out, they all turned against Emma. All three were close then. It was Ross's dodgy dealings with Donna and then Debbie who totally poisoned their brotherly relationship. If I had a brother like Ross I would find it really hard to love him as well and accept what he's doing, but deep down I still would I'm sure. And Pete did/does too, Ross was just winding him up bit too far..And even when Pete was punching him Ross said: 'Is that all you've got?!'
First I was disgusted too of what Pete did. That's because I was shocked to see Ross dead(that's what I thought then..) but I can see it all more objectively since, and from Pete's point of view also.
I find it strange that so many people see it so clearly only in black or white. That because Pete did this, he couldn't love his brother. He certainly didn't love him at that very moment, he hated him for what he had done. But he also didn't mean to kill him. Pete wasn't a fighter, Ross was-and maybe he didn't realize that he could actually beat his brother in a fight-that's why he was using all the strenght he possibly had while Ross was further challenging him in a way ' c'mon bring it on!' by saying ' is that all you've got?!' with a smirk on his face. Why didn't Ross step back and say he was sorry? No way, he had to further humiliate his brother.
It's all Debbie's doing. Why was she playing two brothers? And everyone treating her like a victim on this.

So-Pete really didn't think he could actually cause that much physical harm to him, as he had always seen Ross as the strong one who has always won all the fights. And he most likely didn't see what we saw-he didn't see him hitting his head, that's why he still kicked him when he was on the ground(which of course was too much and totally wrong). Then when he realized he couldn't feel the pulse, he panicked. The reality sank in 'what have I done?' I don't know-haven't been in that kind of situation but yes, would assume that you are firstly thinking of yourself-natural defence mechanism when you do something wrong. Not right thing to do, but quite natural.
He drove the body in the woods-and I could feel his pain when he was driving..I'm sure he was stressed, in panic, felt physically sick, sad all that...everything flashing in front of his eyes..

As I said-he didn't mean to kill his brother, it just happened.
Yes, he has committed couple of crimes so far. He started the fight(quite understandable though even though I'm so against any kind of violence and couldn't really watch their fight either..makes me sick), he didn't call for help, he dumped the 'body', he tried to put the blame on Cain and lied. But all this is just quite natural course of events for anyone who finds themselves in such circumstances I would imagine.
Human mind is scary but interesting.

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I re-watched the hospital scenes yesterday on catch-up TV.

Yes, I agree that "Ross was just winding him up bit too far. And even when Pete was punching him Ross said: 'Is that all you've got?!". This is Ross displaying his macho superman persona. So many young males have this very commonly-believed indestructible image about themselves, but more of these than just a few end up dead before age 25yo, even in my own life experience. I have lost count of the number of young males I've known in my life who haven't reached 25yo through violent stabbings/car crashes/suicides/etc. These young people have maybe lost about 50 years of their lives, marriage, kids, careers, etc. Just awful and completely pointless.

As I re-watched the hospital scenes, it really struck me how unpleasant Ross was as a soap character lately on-screen. Selfish, a taker, nasty, a wanter who just wanted to want, disrespectful of other people's property/relationships. Even the most ardent Ross fan would, I think, realise that he had a really bad side. Even so, I really don't think that Ross would even think of doing anything like Pete subsequently did to his own brother after Ross hit his head on the paving slab in the hospital grounds.

The more I see the video replays and think about this storyline about what Pete did to Ross from between being together at the hospital and being at the woods, the worse it gets for me. An elder brother doing this to a younger one. I think that the storyline is just completely dreadful. I really don't think there has been such a dreadful Emmerdale storyline for a long time. The scene at the hospital where Pete punched unconscious/'dead' Ross in the head on the ground five times was so bad that the producers even blurred out these images from TV altogether!

The fighting scene between Ross and Pete I could understand, most brothers do this over competitive issues sooner or later, in my own experience anyway, especially when they are young and have no concept of the consequences of their actions. But Pete and Ross were 20-30+yo guys. If anything, I think Pete should have been flattered that Ross wanted Debbie but realised that Debbie choose Pete to walk up the aisle for in church. For Ross to subsequently show up at the hospital (where Debbie could have been dying as far as Pete knew then at that moment) was not exactly well-timed. Talk about red rag to a bull. Even so, I reckon that Pete should have accepted that Ross cared for Debbie and left it at that.

I really don't think that any sort of caring brother would have done what Pete did to Ross after the fight at the hospital, I reckon. In fact, I think that, in some ways, Ross is/was a much better person that Pete is, even if Ross was usually perceived as the bad lad. I really can't remember Ross doing or thinking of doing anything like the dreadful things which Pete did to Ross in the episode dated August 6th 2015.

I stand by what I wrote earlier.

Telly Watcher wrote on 25-08-15:
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What started as an angry fight between two males competing for one woman turned much darker when Pete didn't stop after Ross fell backwards, hit the back of his head on the raised paving slab and just lay there unconscious on the ground. If I'd been Pete and seen this happen in front of me, I'm certain that the alarm bells would have been ringing very loudly in my head at that point but I think that in Pete's case the adrenalin had already kicked in then and he couldn't stop as he then repeatedly punched Ross in the head (almost as a finishing 'coup de grace') whilst he was laying on the ground and out cold. After this, he got worried and checked for a neck pulse, couldn't find it and then got scared thinking he'd killed Ross. What happened next was certainly not love in any way. Pete decided to run and get the car to take Ross' body away. (Contrast this behavour of Pete's to that of Aaron's in Emmerdale village outside the village hall earlier when Aaron called over to trained nurse Emma that he couldn't find a pulse for Joanie and for whom Emma found a weak pulse). I think if Pete had had any love for Ross at that point then he would have gone into the hospital and got help, but he didn't. Even if Ross was dead, the hospital staff would have properly looked after the body and cared for it. Instead of this, Pete dropped his brother into the boot of a car, drove it miles away to a deserted wood, then carried Ross on his shoulders quite a way and then dropped him in a dirty ditch and just covered it with some branches and leaves. Yes Pete was sick then by a tree, but I think this was from fear and worry for himself, the physical exertion and stress. Pete's facial expression where he is looking at the body in the boot of the car at the hospital and at the body in the ditch in the woods can only be described as cold. Pete then drove back to his house in Emmerdale, disposed of his shoes and clothes in a bin bag for the refuse bin outside, changed into new clothes from the washer and then drove back to Hotten, showing up at the hospital after being about 2.5 hours away. So not exactly a good example of brotherly love really.
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Ross isnt where pete left him...therefore he must be alive. Yey

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Originally Posted by suzewebb

Ross isnt where pete left him...therefore he must be alive. Yey

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Hes alive. Finally!

How Ridiculous ! I am sick of the Scriptwriters treating the watching public and the Police as Morons. Ross Barton was reported missing, Cain was interviewed. One of the First things the Police would do in a misper case, is check the hospitals, they would have an up to date photo, so Ross would have been found very easily.
Am I the only one getting fed up with the way the Police & viewing public are expected to believe this Tosh !

How Ridiculous ! I am sick of the Scriptwriters treating the watching public and the Police as Morons. Ross Barton was reported missing, Cain was interviewed. One of the First things the Police would do in a misper case, is check the hospitals, they would have an up to date photo, so Ross would have been found very easily.
Am I the only one getting fed up with the way the Police & viewing public are expected to believe this Tosh !