I'd like to see Glenda return. She's one of those characters I find entertaining even though I'd like to strangle her. She and Archie were certainly well suited. Maybe she could get together with Gavin and form the ultimate villainous power couple.
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I'd like to see Glenda return. She's one of those characters I find entertaining even though I'd like to strangle her. She and Archie were certainly well suited. Maybe she could get together with Gavin and form the ultimate villainous power couple.
:DWell -if Gavin appeared a bit more often-Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
would be a start.
Glenda would be more matched to a villain than
Kathy!!:D
I hope Gavin is "really" villainous when all
is revealed and its not just been hype!
I read Paul Nicholas was committed to other work when he signed on to play Gavin, which is why he's only been seen briefly so far. Hopefully, when his other work is done, he'll be able to commit to EE full time - until he's inevitably killed off! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
As far as the hype goes, the character has an awful lot to live up to after DTC's boasting. However, they've made a good start by having Gavin convince Sharon he cares for her and helping him to escape, even after he initially made it clear he had nothing but disdain for her (plus Phil's kidnap of course!). That took some serious cunning and powers of persuasion.
Well, so much for Dean confessing. Thank god Shirley didn't give in, and Buster told him where to get off.
does kyle know kat too
Guess we'll find out tomorrow, though I shouldn't think so. I mean, how would he find out about Stacey's cousins, unless Stacey's dad wrote about them all in that box.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
is dean inside for linda and roxy no bail for himQuote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
is dean inside for linda and roxy no bail for himQuote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
So much for my claim that the New Year's Day episodes would draw a line under the rape storyline! :oQuote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
I'm still holding out faint hope Dean will plead guilty if he can't afford the lawyer he wants.
Why did DTC and colleagues decide to name Stacey's baby after an iconic character if he's not even related to the original Arthur Fowler? It makes me suspect Stacey has made a mistake, even though it's unlikely the hospital would have. Still, DTC does like his improbable twists...
The guy tried to drown his mother, and then had the audacity to call her, to get her to get him a good lawyer. The notion that he would suddenly grow a conscience and confess seems highly improbable now. He's so deluded with his innocence, I bet he could kill Shirley right in front of a million witnesses, and still say it weren't his fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Well, it's not unusual for a guy to want to name his kid after his late father, and Stacey probably didn't want to put up too much of a fuss at the time in case Martin started suspecting the truth.
i did laugh at dean's audacity's asking was all ok to his parents
A good start to the week. We have foreigners (Northerner's) in Albert Square. :rotfl:
Nice to see Mo and Charlie again. How could Fat Elvis Dump Maureen?
Excellent scenes in prison with Dean, Buster and Shirley and loving the Nanwar scenes. All in all a good episode.
I agree Dean won't accept responsibility for his crimes any time soon (if ever).Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
Sorry, I didn't make it clear that I meant he might plead guilty to get a lesser sentence given the evidence against him. A solicitor would probably advise him to do so, and if Dean can't get hold of money and has to accept a duty solicitor, he might feel the latter would be unable to mount a decent enough defence to get him off. Hence, Dean might possibly plead guilty in order to get as short a sentence as possible.
That was what I meant anyway; I've no idea if it'll happen that way or if Dean would ever be pragmatic enough to plead guilty when he doesn't believe he is.
I totally understand Martin wanting to name his son after his father. What I was questioning was DTC's thinking in deciding to give a baby not related to Martin a name so steeped in EE history.Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
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I would love for Stacey to be wrong and have little Arthur be Martin's baby, even with her postpartum psychosis I'm finding it hard to have sympathy for her and no surprise Kyle is her brother as suspectedQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I was hoping for Shirley to have a good conversation with Dean and ask him why he did the rape and attempted rape and try and get him to confess
Buster pretty much confirmed he did suspect Dean had raped Linda but instead choose to side with Dean :angry:
I guess with Linda and Mick on honeymoon we wont see Linda get an apology from Shirley and Buster, is Ollie gone with them?
The nun is back to see Kat for a donation
With all their money why don't Kat and Alfie and the kids stay in posh fab expensive hotel
Shirley and Buster are nowhere near redeemed in my eyes, even if she is back running the pub as if butter wouldn't melt. :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Their reactions to the rape revelation - attempted drowning and threats - don't impress me. Obviously I can understand their disgust and anger, but haven't they learned that yet more threats and violence aren't the answer? Basically it's been more of the same from Shirley and Buster, except this time their ire is directed at Dean instead of Linda. Maybe it was too much to hope they'd learn something from the experience...:wall:
As you say tammyy2j, a meaningful conversation in the prison was very much needed.
Excellent point! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Sorry, this is going back a bit in time, but I thought it was of some interest if anyone hasn't seen it.
The following is an exchange in next week's Radio Times letters column. As you can see, the viewer who wrote in expresses the views many of us made at the time, while the BBC do not answer the question at all.
Letter: "I was appalled by the Eastenders plotline about Cora's homelessness, which painted council officials as uninterested and enjoying a Christmas lunch while others suffer - and then, after one protest, were able to produce a home for her immediately like a rabbit out of a hat. It was irresponsible, and disrespectful both to those looking for a home and to cash-strapped councils doing their best at times of massive cuts."
BBC response: "This episode was part of a long running storyline involving Cora Cross. Eastenders has a long history of reflecting social issues but, being a drama, the outcomes for characters can vary and the main point of Cora's story was her family and friends rallying round and doing everything they could to help find a home for Christmas."
So no real answer at all then.
The BBC's PR team has obviously been taking lessons from politicians on how to use the maximum number of words to say absolutely nothing. :wall:
Sorry, I rarely do this but this time ..B******S* :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
A good episode again tonight. WE are being spoilt. When does the real EastEnders return? :) For me June Whitfield was the stand out performer tonight, but Jessie and Lacey were very good and the introduction of the character Kyle was interesting . Daran Little's script was very good, my only niggle was, did we need to have Stacey's storyline along with Kats tonight, in the same episode? It did seem a bit of an over load and perhaps we lose some of the impact of both storylines?
Agreed about June Whitfield. I actually started bawling when she told the story of her poor dead babies - not something that happens to me very often when watching a soap!Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
I think Lacey Turner is playing a blinder with the post-partum psychosis storyline. I find her thoroughly convincing and sympathetic even though I haven't liked the character much recently. She's got good chemistry with Kyle (who I think has made a very good start), and I hope he can help her through her illness. And there's two more Slater sisters waiting in the wings!
It was indeed an excellent script by Daran Little. I always enjoy his episodes.
kyle don't know kat as i was wondering if he did, like him so far
Arthur sleeps a lot.
At least Kyles connection to family is notQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
through Jean- so for me thats another plus!
I agree hes made a good believable start!:cheer:
A fairly good episode, but not brilliant. Last Nights was far better and had a better script.
The positives first:
Nice scenes with Tamwar and Nancy and I liked the scene with Dot and Stacey in the church. (It comes to something when we have more church scenes in EastEnders than in Emmerdale. :D ) Rakhee Thakrar, Jessie Wallace and Lacey Turner knocked it out of the park tonight.
The negatives:
Mo (Laila Morse) and Charlie, (Derek Martin) were appallingly bad. This episode should have been a three hander between Kat, Mo and Charlie, but without being unkind, I suspect DTC knew Laila and Derek were not up to the mark. Sad as it could have been outstanding. There was far, far too much going on, too many storylines, what with shab's and Kush, Stacey and Dot and then the Slaters including Alfie. I am not interested in the Alfie storyline to be honest. This could have been an outstanding episode and if the likes of Diederick Santer had still been Executive Producer, it would have been.
Is Tamwar planning on proposing as he is very keen for Nancy to learn more about his religion
I too like Kyle so far
Now we know why Kat's secret son and Stacey's psychosis storylines are playing out together: to feed into Stacey's paranoia about Arthur.
I noticed that too lol. Newborn babies do sleep most of the time, but they're very lucky with the baby (or more likely babies) playing him. Maybe being held so close to Lacey the whole time helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
They did. I'm especially impressed with Lacey, who portrays vulnerability so convincingly. You wouldn't think she had it in her if you'd only seen her play snarling Stacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
I didn't think they were quite that bad lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
but I wouldn't be averse to never seeing Mo again.Spoiler:
Me neither. I wish he'd hurry up and die already! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
I'm finding Tamwar a bit pushy which I didn't expect from him. He must be thinking that he and Nancy have a future. I wonder if he would want to marry a non-Muslim?Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Wanting an emergency baptism should ring alarm bells (if not church bells) with someone there!
I thought it was obvious that a dummy baby was used for some of the scenes where he was strapped to Stacey tightly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
It looked like a real baby to me - at least when its face was in view (which was often) - but you're probably right because it (or they?) have been incredibly sleepy. :D (Plus filming all those scenes with a real baby/babies would have been highly impractical.)Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah c
Remember peeps there are two episodes of EE on tonight!
The amount she was patting him too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
So why 2 tonight? None tomorrow?
The amount she was patting him too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
So why 2 tonight? None tomorrow?
None tomorrowQuote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
Yeah, because it's the FA cup tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
Sarah c got me thinking about Stacey's baby who looks so lifelike and yet is usually so unnaturally still. A little research shows that lifelike baby dolls (called reborns) are big business and there's some scarily real looking ones out there:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/474355773223369100/
No wonder baby Arthur with his little sleeping face peeking out of the sling had me fooled! :eek:
Why is nobody thinking of giving Charlie an aspirin??? That could have saved his life :(
ambulance took it's time, is there no doctor anymore on square
Difficult to decide on time it took for ambulance to arrive with the scenes changing from Charlie to Stacey and Alfie ... Might not have been that longQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
A much better first episode tonight. Very powerful, Jessie and Lacey were ....... amazing. I was in tears at the end when Kat covered Charlie with the blanket and I was gone when they played Julia's theme. How can EE go from mediocre to brilliant in 24 hrs?
Reminded me of my Dad going ... was nearly 23 years ago now but for me it is still like it was yesterday :crying: