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05-11-2022, 15:12
Son of Cain

I am wondering if they are toying with replacing the child actor who plays Kyle. When the truth comes out he could be sent to a young offenders unit for a while and come back with a new head.
05-11-2022, 17:02
hward

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

I agree that Kyle would have trouble handling a gun that size and weight, as I said in an earlier post, but the lack of bruising would be explained if be held the gun at his hip. There would be no need to put it to his shoulder to aim at that close distance. Al's wound showed that shot had not spread, so he must have been a few feet any at the time. The police may have gathered evidence but when Cain pled guilty none of the evidence would ever be heard. Not sure if the gunshot residue from a shotgun would be the same from a shotgun as it would be from a handgun, as the muzzle is a greater distance from to person firing the gun. The whole story is implausible, but the police have been trying to get something on Cain for ages, so maybe they took this chance to finally nail him, and thought it is not their job to prove him innocent.

No one knew how Cain was going to plead until the day though. The forensics evidence would still need to be gathered to determine if they have enough to charge him.
05-11-2022, 17:29
Son of Cain

Bit of hypocrisy with Kerry and Amy, they could very easily be in the same position as Cain finds himself in. At least Cain was trying to protect his son (Amy's son), the dreadful mother and daughter were stealing cash.
05-11-2022, 17:40
Son of Cain

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Originally Posted by hward

No one knew how Cain was going to plead until the day though. The forensics evidence would still need to be gathered to determine if they have enough to charge him.

I think what mostly went against Cain was Kerry's evidence and that she saw him wiping the gun. It is a sort of rite of passage for a Dingle to be banged up for something they did not do, or did do. The fact that he did not offer any explanation or defense definitely did not help. Soap police are not known for their brains, the first person they speak to is often the prime suspect, so no need to investigate much further.

It is only a matter of time before Kyle tells someone he did it, he has already tried to tell Moira something, and she in true soap fashion was to busy to listen to him. I reckon Cain will be out by Christmas.
05-11-2022, 17:57
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

I think what mostly went against Cain was Kerry's evidence and that she saw him wiping the gun. It is a sort of rite of passage for a Dingle to be banged up for something they did not do, or did do. The fact that he did not offer any explanation or defense definitely did not help. Soap police are not known for their brains, the first person they speak to is often the prime suspect, so no need to investigate much further.

It is only a matter of time before Kyle tells someone he did it, he has already tried to tell Moira something, and she in true fashion was to busy to listen to him. I reckon Cain will be out by Christmas.

I thought that Cain's initial explanation was that he arrived in the barn after the shooting and that he picked up the gun instinctively. We know it's a lie, but why not stick to it.
06-11-2022, 11:45
johntrevor

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

I think what mostly went against Cain was Kerry's evidence and that she saw him wiping the gun. It is a sort of rite of passage for a Dingle to be banged up for something they did not do, or did do. The fact that he did not offer any explanation or defense definitely did not help. Soap police are not known for their brains, the first person they speak to is often the prime suspect, so no need to investigate much further.

It is only a matter of time before Kyle tells someone he did it, he has already tried to tell Moira something, and she in true fashion was to busy to listen to him. I reckon Cain will be out by Christmas.

Kyle very nearly told Amy as well on the night Cain told Moira when she visited him.
06-11-2022, 11:53
johntrevor

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

I thought that Cain's initial explanation was that he arrived in the barn after the shooting and that he picked up the gun instinctively. We know it's a lie, but why not stick to it.

Yes that is what he said. But we saw him feverishly wiping the gun down well before Kerry got there. Why?? He also told the police he picked it up to put the safety catch on. So why bother wiping his prints off? He was wiping off any evidence of Kyle's fingerprints.
06-11-2022, 14:21
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by johntrevor

Yes that is what he said. But we saw him feverishly wiping the gun down well before Kerry got there. Why?? He also told the police he picked it up to put the safety catch on. So why bother wiping his prints off? He was wiping off any evidence of Kyle's fingerprints.

I assume he told Kyle to go straight home. Why didn't he go with him ?
06-11-2022, 14:55
hward

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Originally Posted by johntrevor

Kyle very nearly told Amy as well on the night Cain told Moira when she visited him.

I wonder if Kyle will tell her. At least that's where it seemed like it might be heading on Friday
06-11-2022, 15:15
Son of Cain

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Originally Posted by johntrevor

Yes that is what he said. But we saw him feverishly wiping the gun down well before Kerry got there. Why?? He also told the police he picked it up to put the safety catch on. So why bother wiping his prints off? He was wiping off any evidence of Kyle's fingerprints.

The fact he was wiping fingerprints off the gun would be evidence against him and sort of contradicted his statement of finding the gun on the floor of the barn. If he had stopped for a minute to think he could have justified Kyles prints on the gun as he also lives in the house where the gun was kept. What would be harder to explain his how the gun was found in the barn in the first place, as it should be kept in a locked cabinet when not in use.
06-11-2022, 16:22
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

The fact he was wiping fingerprints off the gun would be evidence against him and sort of contradicted his statement of finding the gun on the floor of the barn. If he had stopped for a minute to think he could have justified Kyles prints on the gun as he also lives in the house where the gun was kept. What would be harder to explain his how the gun was found in the barn in the first place, as it should be kept in a locked cabinet when not in use.

You are correct but if the Dingles have a locked cabinet, I'm Elsie Tanner.
06-11-2022, 17:53
lizann

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

I assume he told Kyle to go straight home. Why didn't he go with him ?

he was doing a scene clean up, may have moved the body only for kerry coming along
06-11-2022, 19:38
Son of Cain

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

You are correct but if the Dingles have a locked cabinet, I'm Elsie Tanner.

Hello Elsie

I think the police have to come and see the locked cabinet before they give you the licence. Since the gun was registered to Moira, I think she is more responsible than the rest of the family.
06-11-2022, 22:18
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

Hello Elsie

I think the police have to come and see the locked cabinet before they give you the licence. Since the gun was registered to Moira, I think she is more responsible than the rest of the family.

I will concede that but do they actually use the cabinet ?
07-11-2022, 11:53
johntrevor

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

I assume he told Kyle to go straight home. Why didn't he go with him ?

He stayed to wipe off Kyle's fingerprints. We have no idea how much time actually elapsed between Kerry and Amy hearing the gun shots, and the two of them getting to the barn.
07-11-2022, 11:57
johntrevor

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Originally Posted by hward

I wonder if Kyle will tell her. At least that's where it seemed like it might be heading on Friday

I think he probably did. We should find out tonight (Monday)
08-11-2022, 00:07
flappinfanny

So will Cain stop in prison?
08-11-2022, 01:13
hward

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Originally Posted by flappinfanny

So will Cain stop in prison?

I can't see this being the end of Cain, but it was a strange episode and it did feel pretty final
08-11-2022, 02:19
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by flappinfanny

So will Cain stop in prison?

Kyle might have a chat with The Swirl.
08-11-2022, 10:42
Son of Cain

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Originally Posted by flappinfanny

So will Cain stop in prison?

Maybe for a short while, but I think he will be out fairly soon. Perhaps Amy will tell Kerry, that well known keeper of secrets, who will let the cat out of the bag. I still think it likely that Kyle will go away for a while and return with a new head. Huey Quinn who plays Kyle has reached an age when child actors often leave to concentrate on their education.
08-11-2022, 20:02
Snagglepus

I was expecting Aaron to come back and have a go at Chas for the trouble she has caused. Surely someone must have told him about Cain.
08-11-2022, 20:07
lizann

is amy living with matty at the farm?
08-11-2022, 23:07
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by Snagglepus

I was expecting Aaron to come back and have a go at Chas for the trouble she has caused. Surely someone must have told him about Cain.

Livesy let everyone down when he left like a coward.
09-11-2022, 09:12
Son of Cain

Well - Amy is certainly good at hiding the truth, and keeping it buried.
09-11-2022, 19:41
lizann

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

Well - Amy is certainly good at hiding the truth, and keeping it buried.

kyle has two killer mums
09-11-2022, 20:29
Son of Cain

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Originally Posted by lizann

kyle has two killer mums

Who did Moira kill?
09-11-2022, 20:49
lizann

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

Who did Moira kill?

emma
09-11-2022, 20:50
lizann

how can amy take kyle out of the country different surnames plus cain and moira are his legal guardians
09-11-2022, 20:58
LizzyBizzy

I read somewhere that they're going to Belfast. If that's correct (not saying it is), technically you don't need a passport to travel to Belfast, just photo ID.
09-11-2022, 21:28
Son of Cain

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Originally Posted by lizann

emma

Emma - Thanks - I had forgotten she ever existed. Your memory is certainly much better than mine.
10-11-2022, 02:57
Dennis tanner

Some have said that Kyle should return with a different head. I disagree.

I cannot believe that the suspects were not put on a ID parade. A Dock ID is of little value.
10-11-2022, 02:57
Dennis tanner

Some have said that Kyle should return with a different head. I disagree.

I cannot believe that the suspects were not put on a ID parade. A Dock ID is of little value anyway
10-11-2022, 09:38
Son of Cain

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

Some have said that Kyle should return with a different head. I disagree.

I cannot believe that the suspects were not put on a ID parade. A Dock ID is of little value anyway

I have never said that I think Kyle should return with a new head. But I have said that I think he might.
10-11-2022, 12:00
johntrevor

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

I have never said that I think Kyle should return with a new head. But I have said that I think he might.

Yes you are quite right. you said might not will. Emmerdale has a history of doing that. Robert, Sarah, Amy, to mention just three.
10-11-2022, 13:50
Perdita

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

Some have said that Kyle should return with a different head. I disagree.

I cannot believe that the suspects were not put on a ID parade. A Dock ID is of little value.

I like this Kyle, I hope he stays
10-11-2022, 13:50
lizann

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Originally Posted by Perdita

I like this Kyle, I hope he stays

me also
10-11-2022, 14:23
johntrevor

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Originally Posted by lizann

me also

And me
10-11-2022, 22:15
Son of Cain

Moira tells Mack about Kyle, how long before he tells Charity. It's true what they say "It is hard to keep a secret, but it harder not to".
10-11-2022, 22:18
Son of Cain

Am I an old fogey, or is there something a bit pervy about adults trying to push a fifteen year old boy and a thirteen year old girl together.
11-11-2022, 00:03
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

I have never said that I think Kyle should return with a new head. But I have said that I think he might.

I agree and I am just giving my opinion

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