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I know Sonia is selfish! Gus hit the nail right on the head! And I didn't realise he felt that way. He's hidden it well.

I feel really sorry for Martin. I don't know why Sonia married him. She said she was young when it happened, but it was only 2 years ago? I really felt that they had grown up through that time, from Sonia having Rebecca to when Martin and Sonia got married. They matured dramatically. For her to suddenly turn round now and say, I didn't know what I was doing, and she's said on more than one occasion that she hates Martin. He is so in love with her, and I find it really upsetting.

She said when he proposed that no matter what she was doing in the future, she'd always want to be with him. They seemed so commited to each other. She's so oblivious to anyone else's feelings. She was saying tonight to Naomi, he's fine with the Rebecca situation, we're moving on, he knows we're never getting back together. She's too self involved.

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:eek: MO THE NUTTER :eek: 'Hello Ben!' hahahaha that was so funny and her face!!! but then for once i was liking Mo!

Kill him Mo!

Anyone else wishing Martin, Sonia, Naomi and Rebecca would just emigrate and get the hell out of our screens???

that was sooo bad that it was almost good. anyone who missed that, this is a summary

Little Mo: eeee aaahhh oooo hello ben ooooooo

Ben: Shiver quiver

Ian: idiot

Jane: cheating ho

Grant and Phil: Ughhhhhhh

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Lmfaooo! :rotfl: Fab Post! :D

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Originally Posted by sarah21

Sonia has always wanted Rebecca, she regreted having her adopted almost immeadiately and that lead to her kidnapping the child. Sonia is the one who gave birth to her and has had to live with the hurt and guilt when Martin never gave a damn. Martin didn't want to know about the child until recently. Martin did what he did tonight for two reasons. Firstly, his mummy and Gus told him not to lie and the other was to get back at Sonia for not coming back to him. Martin worried about lying? The bloke who blackmailed Kareena, grew pot and got Derek to take the blame for him so he wouldn't go back to prison after killing Jamie and being out on parole. If Sonia hadn't forgiven him for killing Jamie the square would never have accepted him back. She also stopped him from getting himself into deeper trouble when everyone else had deserted him. I hope this all rebounds on him but in true EE style, Sonia has to suffer for leaving her husband and going to a woman.

Good job I'm not Sonia. I would tell Margaret all about Martin.

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Some interesting points. Martin has made some mistakes in his life, but Sonia isn't excused from behaving badly because she just happens to have experienced a lot of traumas.

Martin did give a damn about Rebecca. But he was just a kid, and the same as Sonia couldn't cope with looking after her, he couldn't either. Sonia never told Martin the truth about him being Rebecca's dad, he had to hear it from Jamie, 2 months after Rebecca had been born. By the time he found out the truth Sonia had given her away. He would have stood by her if Sonia had wanted to keep her. Or at least the family would have, but it was Sonia's choice. And she has blamed other people for it, which is wrong.

As for Jamie, it was tragic, but it's not like Martin doesn't regret it.

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Originally Posted by littlemo

Some interesting points. Martin has made some mistakes in his life, but Sonia isn't excused from behaving badly because she just happens to have experienced a lot of traumas.

Martin did give a damn about Rebecca. But he was just a kid, and the same as Sonia couldn't cope with looking after her, he couldn't either. Sonia never told Martin the truth about him being Rebecca's dad, he had to hear it from Jamie, 2 months after Rebecca had been born. By the time he found out the truth Sonia had given her away. He would have stood by her if Sonia had wanted to keep her. Or at least the family would have, but it was Sonia's choice. And she has blamed other people for it, which is wrong.

As for Jamie, it was tragic, but it's not like Martin doesn't regret it.

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Martin wanted nothing to do with the Baby.. Pauline had to fight sonia on her own.. Martin didn't give a damn at the time. he only became interested when he went to see her after her adoptive parents died.. Sonia was only 15 and felt she was doing the best. She has regretted it everyday since.

Martin wasn't out of order for telling the truth but so what? People split the whole time and yet a child can grow up knowing both Parents and been happy and healthy.. Sonia did decieve her and yes she has the right to be upset but Rebecca was happy and she loves been with both of them so what is the problem.. At 18 she is going to find out that they are her parents and how is she going to feel about her grandmother who stopped her been with them because they split up!!!!

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Originally Posted by littlemo

Some interesting points. Martin has made some mistakes in his life, but Sonia isn't excused from behaving badly because she just happens to have experienced a lot of traumas.

Martin did give a damn about Rebecca. But he was just a kid, and the same as Sonia couldn't cope with looking after her, he couldn't either. Sonia never told Martin the truth about him being Rebecca's dad, he had to hear it from Jamie, 2 months after Rebecca had been born. By the time he found out the truth Sonia had given her away. He would have stood by her if Sonia had wanted to keep her. Or at least the family would have, but it was Sonia's choice. And she has blamed other people for it, which is wrong.

As for Jamie, it was tragic, but it's not like Martin doesn't regret it.

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It doesn't excuse Sonia one bit, but what I'm saying is Martin isn't this wonderful, perfect boy that everyone is trying to make out. He has made mistakes in his life, as Sonia is now but at least he has always had his mother for support.

Martin didn't want Chloe then. He told his mother straight he didn't when she was going for custody of the child before it was adopted. He stopped her. And Martin knew Chloe was his. He only had to work out the dates, its simply that he wouldn't admit it, even to himself.

Martin might regret Jamie, as I'm sure that Sonia will regret how she is behaving now, but he still killed him by his reckless driving. He still drove while he was banned and he used his mobile. You can hardly compare killing someone to leaving a marriage.

There is still the blackmailing Kareena and the letting Derek have a criminal record to cover up his pot growing that Martin has been responsible for. I still can't compare how badly Martin has behaved in the past with Sonia's behaviour now. Yes, she is behaving badly and totally out of character, but after the last 6 years that she has been through from when Carol left her with Robbie and her granddad to look after at 14, she was bound to have some form of crisis and this is it.

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Originally Posted by sarah21

It doesn't excuse Sonia one bit, but what I'm saying is Martin isn't this wonderful, perfect boy that everyone is trying to make out. He has made mistakes in his life, as Sonia is now but at least he has always had his mother for support.

Martin didn't want Chloe then. He told his mother straight he didn't when she was going for custody of the child before it was adopted. He stopped her. And Martin knew Chloe was his. He only had to work out the dates, its simply that he wouldn't admit it, even to himself.

Martin might regret Jamie, as I'm sure that Sonia will regret how she is behaving now, but he still killed him by his reckless driving. He still drove while he was banned and he used his mobile. You can hardly compare killing someone to leaving a marriage.

There is still the blackmailing Kareena and the letting Derek have a criminal record to cover up his pot growing that Martin has been responsible for. I still can't compare how badly Martin has behaved in the past with Sonia's behaviour now. Yes, she is behaving badly and totally out of character, but after the last 6 years that she has been through from when Carol left her with Robbie and her granddad to look after at 14, she was bound to have some form of crisis and this is it.

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:clap::clap::clap: very very well said.. I don't excuse her either but she finally found something/one to make her happy. she deserves it after everything she has been through

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Lmfaooo! :rotfl: Fab Post! :D

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You've missed this one Siobhan.

National Psycho Week for eastenders:

Tuesday: Maureen Slater
Thursday: Sonia Fowler

'I'll come round on Saturday? At 11am, I know she'll be expecting me...' That was hilarious!

martin should've added a bit more like tell Margaret about the fact she was a lesbian, living with another woman and 2 men who get drunk often!






Plus Bobby Beale make's another appearence!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Siobhan

:clap::clap::clap: very very well said.. I don't excuse her either but she finally found something/one to make her happy. she deserves it after everything she has been through

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Sadly though, I don't think she has.

Sonia went through so much and kept herself level headed and kind, even rescuing Martin when he had pressed the self destruct button. When she married Martin and Rebecca was back in her life and everything should have been wonderful that is when she seems to have pressed her own self destruct button. I can't help but think this is a reaction to her past. Sonia believes she loses everyone she loves. Is it possible she has pushed Martin away believing deep down that he would leave her anyway?

I don't know how this is going to go, but I do know that Sonia is going to regret all this and very soon.

last night was ok.sonia deserved that all she thinks about is herself.I'm liking the new Caring Phil and Ben seems to be finally accepting him as his dad