if denny wakes and remembers he knows bobby killed lucy and phil was driving backQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
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if denny wakes and remembers he knows bobby killed lucy and phil was driving backQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Perhaps that's why we are already being prepared for a brain injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Very flat and disappointing end to the Christmas Day episode. There was lots going on and even a death, but it all made for very unsatisfying viewing.
This inconsistency seriously needs an explanation! Fatboy was last seen walking off angrily after a confrontation with Vincent and Claudette, and next thing he offers to do them a favour and go for ice???!!! :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
As an aside, don't nightclubs have their own ice machines? They did when I worked in one a couple of decades ago and I can't imagine why that would have changed. Buying and storing ice would quickly get very expensive.
How could Ian think a few rules will cure Bobby of what's obviously a psychiatric problem? Stupid and lazy writing! :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I was waiting in vain for Jane to mention Max as the major reason to finally admit the truth... :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
I assumed at the time they'd interviewed him, but given the utter stupidity of the writing it wouldn't surprise me if they hadn't. :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
How convenient would that be? :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
As to Claudette, I think it's now certain she's lied through her teeth about Eric and her husband, but I'm having a hard time caring at the moment.
(I don't think I've ever used the "head hitting a wall" emoticon so much in a post, but nothing else seemed apt enough to express my frustration.)
Sad it was fat boy who was killed. After watching the episode, I personally think he was dead before the crusher got him, because Vincent pushed the bloke off the Crusher. My theory is Arthur suffocated in the boot and for someone who was terrified of closed spaces, is a horrible way to die. I did feel sorry for Dot.
As for the Beale storyline I think that may be the last we see of Bobby for a while, maybe until Max comes out of prison? On a practical level are there not laws on how many hours child actors can work? I would imagine Elliott who plays Bobby has used those up?
The episode had an unpleasant, uneasy feel to it tonight.
If the police investigated properly with both Ian and Phil breath analysed plus their seat belt marks it would be obvious Phil was the driver instead I assume Phil and Sharon speaking to the police lead to Ian's arrest for dangerous driving
It is a shame that Fatboy was killed off, poor Dot, she lost Charlie and now Fatboy over Ronnie and Vincent she deserves to know the truth as does Fatboy's family :angry:
Why didn't Vincent tell Ronnie she was responsible for killing Fatboy, I was hoping Jack and Roxy would hear
Overall a very disappointing Christmas Day and Boxing Day episodes
He was saving Ronnie from the awful truth, and to be fair I don't think she intended for anyone to die. I think the henchmen found Fatboy dead and tried to get rid of the body as Vincent said.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
However, Ronnie (and everyone else) needs to know the result of their childish wars was the horrific death of an innocent man.
or vincent is really in love with ronnie every though she wanted him dead
That would make more sense if he believes she only wanted to scare him.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I've just read on social media the theory that Claudette engineered Fatboy's death (presumably because Vincent told her Fatboy had betrayed them). That certainly explains why the latter came back and did her a favour after storming off. She could have persuaded him all would be forgiven and he could stay in Albert Square if he did something for her. But how would Claudette know what Ronnie was planning?
This theory admittedly makes for a more satisfying, if horrific, storyline. If Fatboy's death was deliberate on Claudette's part, she must be one of the worst villains ever to set foot in Albert Square! :eek:
she could be capable of that and with her being a foster mother she could have contacts but why not take out phil or other mitchells then herself with other foster sons who donna talks aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
we need a flashback explanation if how fatboy meet his end why he was in vincent's car
she could be capable of that and with her being a foster mother she could have contacts but why not take out phil or other mitchells then herself with other foster sons who donna talks aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
we need a flashback explanation if how fatboy meet his end why he was in vincent's car
Yes there are rules for child actors and they areQuote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
quite restrictive and detailed. Main points-
Can only work max 2 hrs per day on school days
and Sundays.
Can work longer hours on Saturdays & school hols.
But must have 2 vlear weeks in school hols
Need a performing licences issued by local
Council.
Cant work before 7am or after 7pm.
If not accompanied by teacher or parent - have to
have chaperone - also licenced by council
Search " child actors working hours UK " will take
you to got gov.uk for more info!
Fupl
claudette did know ronnie had ice so knew a bad plan was in place for vincent
Well remembered!Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
It's looking more and more like Claudette is the true culprit, and I'd be very glad because Fatboy's horrible death makes Ronnie totally unsympathetic (even if it was unintentional). It also explains why Claudette disappeared overnight - so that she'd have an alibi.
I take back a lot of the criticism I made of this strand of the Christmas episodes if it turns out Claudette cold-bloodedly engineered Fatboy's death. Although it wouldn't change the horror of his death, at least there'd be a reason for it (as opposed to just shock value): to demonstrate just how evil Claudette truly is. :ninja:
The regulations seem to be different when it's part time performance work, rather than say a paper round or a retail job. It sounds like they can have days off school as long as they keep to an education plan. Start and end times differ, as do maximum hours they can work. Seems quite relaxed to me. See this PDF: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/abouttheb...sing_guide.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
Of course they may have decided that to give Eliot a significant break is in his best interests.
I'm not sure why they think sending Bobby to a boarding school is going to solve anything though. They won't know what he's done and they're not psychologists or psychiatrists.
I thought he'd be sending him to a clinic of some sort, though it didn't do Steven a lot of good when he was on screen. But it seems now that he's not a danger to Peter, Lauren or Louie at all...
Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Claudette made me chuckle as she twisted fatboys demise to be all about her.Vincent is just her weapon on thia planet to be emotionaly bullied into doing her evil bidings, thou I cant factor Les or Donna into her mindset?
Was it only me that noted fatboys increasing depressed/morose acting building up to this.I wish the actor well and a hand print in HAollywood.
Roxy is one step away from the woodchipper, seen this in real life the S/L is spot on.
Not a single mention about MAX being locked up, whilst the Beales / Mitchells were debating what to do with Bobby. Probably nothing else on this storyline until the Easter school holidays. I too hope Denny fully recovers , has total recall, and reveals every single thing he knows. ( If wishes were horses etc.)..:angry:
They all seem to have had a morals/ethicsQuote:
Originally Posted by Glen1
bypass!!
Even taking into account the things we are
meant to believe in Soaps- its getting
farcical!
I know Jane has her fans( tho I have never
been one).but I now feel that in her desparation
- which I dont mininise- to have & keep a child
- she has insulated Bobby against reality and
he feels invincible!
There were other ways the story could have
been written- that kept the evil but some
reality - as well! I suppose Boarding School
idea means things csn be said/done without
being on screen.Tho that might be a cop- out!
Hope Jack sees Max and starts stirring things up!
When hes unsuctioned himself from Ronnie?!
Agree MM. Incidentally loved this last comment...:rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
I was wondering about this too. I suppose she's an extreme example of someone who seems lovely and is a loyal friend, but woe betide anyone who crosses her. :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Splashy
Yes, I really cannot fathom, given what's happened to Denny, why Sharon would not now go to the police, given that Max has been put away for 25 years. Are we all just expected to forget this aspect of the story?Quote:
Originally Posted by Glen1
In a word - yes. They've written themselves into a corner with so many major characters covering for Bobby. If the truth comes out, realistically half the cast would be imprisoned. Once Bobby's out of the way in boarding school I'm sure it'll be a case of out of sight, out of mind (or at least that's what the EE team are hoping!).Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
is denny off to boarding school alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
is denny off to boarding school alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I bet he ends up with amnesia just serious enough for him to have forgotten that Bobby killed Lucy, but no other ill effects.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Oops! That was a typo. I've corrected it now. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
So was it Claudette's henchmen who killed Fatboy then not Ronnie's?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I don't understand why Fatboy would do a favour for Claudette and Vincent when Vincent was making him leave unless Claudette told Fatboy he didn't have to leave and she would speak to Vincent and end the Mitchell feud
Fatboy probably died accidentally somehow because of his claustrophobia.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I'm not sure whether she paid the henchmen to crush the car (meaning certain death for Fatboy) or if they panicked when they found him dead and did it themselves (as Vincent said). I now think the latter seems more likely meaning it wasn't murder on Claudette's part after all (although she didn't bat an eyelid at the news of his death). It's all a bit confusing!
She persuaded Fatboy to go and get the ice, possibly by saying she'd smooth things over with Vincent so he wouldn't have to leave Walford.
This is all speculation anyway and we can't know what really happened unless she says more.
and that phil was driving with ian bullying him in back of car about bobbyQuote:
Originally Posted by Kim
and that phil was driving with ian bullying him in back of car about bobbyQuote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Bye bye Flatboy :)
I really thought it was going to be Jack that carps it as he is fresh back and not a main bod anymore.
Ian & Jane have become unsalvagble, just vile. Its ok to assult a kid to save your killer kid and body dumping spouse.
Questions up in the air..Phil had injuries proving he was driving. Max ?
But I wish the actor who played Arthur all the best in the catering industry.
Bye bye Flatboy :)
I really thought it was going to be Jack that carps it as he is fresh back and not a main bod anymore.
Ian & Jane have become unsalvagble, just vile. Its ok to assult a kid to save your killer kid and body dumping spouse.
Questions up in the air..Phil had injuries proving he was driving. Max ?
But I wish the actor who played Arthur all the best in the catering industry.
He is again now :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Splashy
I wish Jane had just reported Bobby. That said, why on earth have the police not listened to Max? Shouting out about Bobby didn't do any good at all!
So irresponsible of Ian sending Bobby to boarding school too. What if he hurts someone there?!
Maybe it's a new spinoff planned? Murder at St trinians?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur
Problem is when the Who Killed Lucy storlyine gets awards for being best storyline it won´t convince TPTB that maybe it was not such a good storyline in the end
sharon will tell jack who again will keep quiet to protect bobby that's probably what will happen
Thank goodness Shirley knows the truth about Dean at last. It's been a loooong time coming.
Very nice, layered proposal scene between Honey and Billy, and Ronnie and Jack.
I'm confused that nobody appears to have noticed Stacy acting strangely. Ignoring people and constantly staring into space doesn't seem like normal behaviour for even the most exhausted of new mothers.
les saying the green dress billy wore was nice was funny
does whitney serve any purpose anymore no family or mates there, lee isn't into her and now she eyeing up mick
les saying the green dress billy wore was nice was funny
does whitney serve any purpose anymore no family or mates there, lee isn't into her and now she eyeing up mick