Ross Barton (Michael Parr)

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Originally Posted by Serena Williams

I find it hard to believe Pete lover Ross when he allegedly killed him that is certainly not love. Pete hates Ross and the father James is apathetic towards Ross. Ross has always felt his father does not love him the same way he does for Peter and Finn.

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Family ties and love is stronger than that. Pete said to Debbie 'Of course I still love him, he's my brother! ' It was meant to be just a fight - to get it all out of their system - but he accidentally killed (??)him and then panicked. I can fully understand why Pete was so angry at him - he had been totally humiliated as a man at his own wedding in front of whole village and still Ross didn't have decency to keep his distance.
What comes to James and Pete as 'golden boy ' Ross bad boy. Ross has totally made it all himself, they don't expect anything else from him anymore as he's always been the one in some kind of trouble. That doesn't mean that James wouldn't love him, he just doesn't know how to help him to change his ways.
The same situation as in Corrie with Todd and Jason.

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Originally Posted by Serena Williams

I find it hard to believe Pete lover Ross when he allegedly killed him that is certainly not love. Pete hates Ross and the father James is apathetic towards Ross. Ross has always felt his father does not love him the same way he does for Peter and Finn.

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Family ties and love is stronger than that. Pete said to Debbie 'Of course I still love him, he's my brother! ' It was meant to be just a fight - to get it all out of their system - but he accidentally killed (??)him and then panicked. I can fully understand why Pete was so angry at him - he had been totally humiliated as a man at his own wedding in front of whole village and still Ross didn't have decency to keep his distance.
What comes to James and Pete as 'golden boy ' Ross bad boy. Ross has totally made it all himself, they don't expect anything else from him anymore as he's always been the one in some kind of trouble. That doesn't mean that James wouldn't love him, he just doesn't know how to help him to change his ways.
The same situation as in Corrie with Todd and Jason.

What I would actually like to see happening now would be Pete and Ross working out their differences somehow and totally both turn their backs to Debbie.

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Originally Posted by Serena Williams

I find it hard to believe Pete lover Ross when he allegedly killed him that is certainly not love. Pete hates Ross and the father James is apathetic towards Ross. Ross has always felt his father does not love him the same way he does for Peter and Finn.

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Totally agree. You shouldn't treat people you love like that.

You shouldn't-and yet it happens. That's called life. Things are not only black and white and love within family goes so much deeper than that. Pete hurts, he felt physically sick when he dumped Ross's body in the woods. He just suddenly found himself in a situation where there was no return.
Of course he should have called for help, but he made a huge stupid mistake when in panic. Whatever he did, doesn't take away the fact that he still loved or loves Ross, he just hated what he had done, he wanted to get him into his senses. But Ross is 'all or nothing' type of personality-nothing in between, falls so deeply and passionately when he does, that it's both scary and dangerous. Taking it after his mad mother perhaps? ;)
And that's why I like Ross-the complexity of his personality. :)

You shouldn't-and yet it happens. That's called life. Things are not only black and white and love within family goes so much deeper than that. Pete hurts, he felt physically sick when he dumped Ross's body in the woods. He just suddenly found himself in a situation where there was no return.
Of course he should have called for help, but he made a huge stupid mistake when in panic. Whatever he did, doesn't take away the fact that he still loved or loves Ross, he just hated what he had done, he wanted to get him into his senses. But Ross is 'all or nothing' type of personality-nothing in between, falls so deeply and passionately when he does, that it's both scary and dangerous. Taking it after his mad mother perhaps? ;)
And that's why I like Ross-the complexity of his personality. :)

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Originally Posted by mariba

You shouldn't-and yet it happens. That's called life. Things are not only black and white and love within family goes so much deeper than that. Pete hurts, he felt physically sick when he dumped Ross's body in the woods. He just suddenly found himself in a situation where there was no return.
Of course he should have called for help, but he made a huge stupid mistake when in panic. Whatever he did, doesn't take away the fact that he still loved or loves Ross, he just hated what he had done, he wanted to get him into his senses. But Ross is 'all or nothing' type of personality-nothing in between, falls so deeply and passionately when he does, that it's both scary and dangerous. Taking it after his mad mother perhaps? ;)
And that's why I like Ross-the complexity of his personality. :)

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It seems like Pete is the mad one to me. His actions are not sane at all, whatever Ross did.

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Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur

It seems like Pete is the mad one to me. His actions are not sane at all, whatever Ross did.

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He has always seemed the most unstable to me-
apart from Mommie Dearest!
I do wonder if one might murder the other -
as things progress!

Dupl

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Originally Posted by Serena Williams

I find it hard to believe Pete lover Ross when he allegedly killed him that is certainly not love. Pete hates Ross and the father James is apathetic towards Ross. Ross has always felt his father does not love him the same way he does for Peter and Finn.

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I don't think Pete has liked Ross for a long time, most of the time they've just seemed to put up with each other. There always seems to have been rivalry between them over the last 2 years, they're opposites really and Ross has never been the hard-working steady farming type which Pete is, in fact I think Ross hates farming. Pete has tried setting Ross up for trouble before. For example, he tried to set up Ross for stealing cash back in June 2015 knowing that the police were about to visit the farm and look around. The Debbie/Ross affair (I just realised it could be called the 'dross' affair, haha!) was rivalry and competition in action between two opposite brothers, one seemingly passive, quiet and boring, the other other active, loud and wild. Which one was Debbie really going to have a chance of choosing at this point of her life?

There was more rivalry when Ross really tried to wreck Pete's wedding by putting the Ross/Debbie recorded conversation as the soundtrack to be played as Debbie walked up the aisle. The fight at the hospital was another example. What started as an angry fight between two males competing for one woman turned much darker when Pete didn't stop after Ross fell backwards, hit the back of his head on the raised paving slab and just lay there unconscious on the ground. If I'd been Pete and seen this happen in front of me, I'm certain that the alarm bells would have been ringing very loudly in my head at that point but I think that in Pete's case the adrenalin had already kicked in then and he couldn't stop as he then repeatedly punched Ross in the head (almost as a finishing 'coup de grace') whilst he was laying on the ground and out cold. After this, he got worried and checked for a neck pulse, couldn't find it and then got scared thinking he'd killed Ross. What happened next was certainly not love in any way. Pete decided to run and get the car to take Ross' body away. (Contrast this behavour of Pete's to that of Aaron's in Emmerdale village outside the village hall earlier when Aaron called over to trained nurse Emma that he couldn't find a pulse for Joanie and for whom Emma found a weak pulse). I think if Pete had had any love for Ross at that point then he would have gone into the hospital and got help, but he didn't. Even if Ross was dead, the hospital staff would have properly looked after the body and cared for it. Instead of this, Pete dropped his brother into the boot of a car, drove it miles away to a deserted wood, then carried Ross on his shoulders quite a way and then dropped him in a dirty ditch and just covered it with some branches and leaves. Yes Pete was sick then by a tree, but I think this was from fear and worry for himself, the physical exertion and stress. Pete's facial expression where he is looking at the body in the boot of the car at the hospital and at the body in the ditch in the woods can only be described as cold. Pete then drove back to his house in Emmerdale, disposed of his shoes and clothes in a bin bag for the refuse bin outside, changed into new clothes from the washer and then drove back to Hotten, showing up at the hospital after being about 2.5 hours away. So not exactly a good example of brotherly love really.

The Tuesday or Wednesday episode (August 25th/26th) this week is supposed to tell us if Ross remains missing or if James and Pete find Ross' dead body in the ditch. I think the ditch will be empty and that Ross will eventually return to the village and cause more rivalry between himself and Pete over Debbie. I suspect that Debbie will still not have Pete in her life much more then (if at all?) and that there will be more of the dross affair until Debbie leaves Emmerdale on our TV screens around Christmas 2015 for about 6 months for maternity leave (I suppose Charley Webb will have an obvious baby bump by October 2015 so this may be when she stops filming scenes). I wonder what Debbie's exit storyline will be. Perhaps Pete goes Cameron and causes Debbie/Ross/Moses to leave the village for months and months until Debbie can marry Ross and it's safer to return? Anything could happen next really.