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My post above about all the unpleasant people in Eastenders really grew out of my continued irritation that Ian, Jane and Sharon in particular seem to have been completely rehabilitated into being "nice" people while Max is still in jail. I know they still have their "moments" but in general they are seen as fine members of the community. But they are not nice people at all!Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
Yes- thats true. Theres no real logic orQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
fairness to it!
I wonder how they will explain matters
when the truth comes out about Bobby-
If it ever does?
They knew and allowed Max to go to/
remain in Jail!!
I'm still not clear how Jane wasn't charged with perjury after appearing as a witness for Max, giving him an alibi.
max was blamed and charged for this tooQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
max was blamed and charged for this tooQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Its not a legal answer-but perhaps sheQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
was just written off as someone not
"entirely responsible" and not worth
pursuit. Police dont always press charges
against all involved in a case and were
more bothered about "solving" the .murder.
Not really justice tho and if she had been
charged and stood trial - some of the truth
might have emerged -which might have
saved Max!
I liked Vincent being honest with Kim, they are good together
I do think Claudette is lying about Vincent's dad being killed by Eric and as no body found he could be alive
I think Stacey wants the truth to come out, she wants Shabham despite being her best friend to find out presumably so Kush will end up with her and their baby :angry:
A vote in the pub. Yes, that should certainly be binding on the whole community...
I am wondering if Mr Hubbard is dead? The story is iffy.
Good bits tonight, Dot (for once) was funny. Kim was also very good in her scenes. The Beales are ruined. Elaine is a bit grating, I love Maria Friedman, I saw her in the West End a while ago at Drury Lane when she was in Witches of Eastwick and was outstanding. It is a very different technique on the stage to TV and continuing drama. Sadly Maria does not suit EastEnders.
I know we have the odd retcon in soap, but EE has become Retcon City. I am wondering if it is time for Treadwell-Collins and Lamb to be reined in a bit, for the sake and health of the show.
It probably happened off screen. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
why isn't vincent targetting all eric mitchell's kids and peggy for revenge, mama hubbard proving threatening and manipulative towards kim to keep her plan in place
I totally agree, although I still find most of these extremely flawed characters watchable on the whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
I stopped watching EE for about 18 months before DTC took over, mainly because I found the characters unbearably unpleasant. All the men were bullies and the women screeching harridans. I find most of them more likeable nowadays despite them all catching some kind of disease which has robbed them of any morals.
Hopefully, with the climaxes of the Bobby and rape storylines at Christmas, most of the characters in question will revert to type.
I like them together in their more serious scenes (like when discussing Vincent's father's death). It's a shame the writers again have Kim acting the fool most of the time, and I still don't find Vincent a convincing tough guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Yes, I bet there's more to the story than Claudette's telling Vincent.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
dot should hold her auditions in community centre
Denise was the best think about tonight's episode. Kamil is a star.
I felt sad at Denise and Patrick's chat about it could be their last, did they mean in that house or is one leaving or dyingQuote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Elaine is so unlikeable this time around
I know. She says that the reason why Janet couldn't be in the show was because of her age, but I don't know. After what happened with her comment about Tamwar, I'm starting to think of her as a complete prejudicist!Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I agree, the anti_janet comment was obviously veiled that she thought a DS person wouldn't be 'up to the job'Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
and we have seen her racist side already
I'm not sure I understand what is going on regarding Kim selling her half of the former B&B. I believe the two original houses were knocked into one, so for Kim to sell her half she would have to return the property to two separate properties. And this, I presume, is the reason that Denise and Patrick were talking about the money it would cost them in builders and decorators. But surely all that would be down to Kim to pay for?
Or am I missing something?
why did fatboy run to vincent, he gave ronnie the file, make up his mind he'd be better stearing clear of both
Well all that business with Ronnie, Vincent and Phil was a load of old tosh.
The Janet scenes were cute but Elaine is really grating on me, if I were Dot I would give her a Glasgow Kiss.
Disgraceful that Ann Mitchell is nothing more than an extra now, Winston and Tracey have more scenes and lines and Mick if you really cared about Stan's memory, then you would not let Cora sleep in Arthur's potting shed and scavage like a dog for food.
I agree, I don't see how Kim could force Denise to pay half for work that's not essential. Also, surely Kim understands Denise's precarious financial situation and wouldn't do so even if she has the right.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Yes, the Vincent and Ronnie/Phil* feud is a load of old tosh lol, but I must admit to feeling gleeful that Ronnie got one over on Vincent. That's the spirited Ronnie I know and love! :cheer:Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Didn't Bobby manipulate Jane like pro! I think many parents will recognise themselves in Jane giving in and buying him the bike out of guilt (I certainly do :o). I wonder if we're supposed to see Bobby's powers of manipulation as evidence he's a stone cold psychopath in the making?
Elliot Carrington who plays Bobby has certainly perfected the art of the evil expression. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...ppy-514478.gif
I totally agree about Cora and the Carters, but I'm just glad the former's situation appears to be being addressed at last. It's been ignored by most of the square's residents for far too long. :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
I found I had something in my eye when Elaine told Janet she'd be playing the Angel Gabriel... :crying:
* Even though Phil's totally oblivious to the fact there is a feud. :D
Line of the night goes to Kim:
"I would show you my downstairs but I've got the decorators in... It's very spacious though" :D
The rest of the ep was pretty poor to be fair. Denise was good, but Diane is good even with bad material.
I did have to smile at old Grandops Mitchell with the walking stick.
Memo to dear old Dom Treadwell-Collins, Richard Blackwood can't act. :)
Libby knows more about Jordan
Masood's reaction to that line was very funny too. :rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Is a pig's head in a box the East End version of a horse's head in the bed? :D
Vincent has declared himself content to just be a husband and a father, and seems happy with his lot. Is this an example of the soap cliche that tragedy strikes those that are happy?Spoiler:
The police investigation into the Mitchells and organised crime makes more sense now we know they're after someone higher up the food chain than Phil. Could it be Gavin? I can't remember now, but are he and Kathy meant to have been living back in London for years?
I'd love to see Denise visit Lucas. However, if it goes ahead I think it'll happen off screen because I believe the actor is currently starring in Holby City. Whatever happens, it's looking as if bad boy Jordan will soon go and live with Denise and Patrick. I'm guessing he and Ben will be mortal enemies...
does tanya not know the state her mother is in, she would take her in with her
You would think Abi would have told Tanya, but Abi is too busy being a Mitchell. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Ann Mitchell was the stand out actor tonight, her scenes in the Vic with Babe were outstanding. The Vincent stuff is laughable, that last scene was truly awful in terms of acting, but in a funny sort of way the worse it gets the more watchable it is. If that makes sense?
Are we going to get an eating disorder storyline for Linda now? How many more issues are we going to get thrown at the Carters? That storyline could have been given to another character in the show. Elaine is really grating on me now. I liked the storyline with Dot and Stacey with the Bible and Stacey reading it to Lilly.
Not a bad episode to start the week, far from perfect, but an improvement on last week.
yes was thinking bullima for linda or she is preggers again
is dexter and ava not in contact with cora either anymore
yes was thinking bullima for linda or she is preggers again
is dexter and ava not in contact with cora either anymore
It might be a bit difficult for Dexter and Ava to keep in touch with Cora as she doesn't have an address for them to write to and I can't imagine she has a mobile phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I am sure Jane would have told Tanya about Cora if Abi isn't talking to her mother
I liked the scenes with Denise, Shirley and Kathy and Dot with Stacey
I thought Claudette knew Vincent was working with the police
It's not pregnancy because she made herself sick deliberately. Bulimia was my first thought too, but I hope it isn't that. She was worried about something during the entire episode. Maybe she took something she later regretted? Or she could have had a massive binge she desperately regretted of course...Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Agreed FF - those scenes in the Hubbard house were cringe worthy... :wall:
Yes, they were good scenes. I'm glad Shirley and Kathy seem to have talked Denise out of seeing Lucas. I wonder how she's going to find Jordan now?Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I think through Libby, she knows moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I did like the bible bit with Lily. Nice to redress the koran stuff from the other week. What next though?
What do you mean "redress the koran stuff"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
They did some lovely quotes from the koran a few weeks ago, so looking at the bible makes it a bit more balanced rather than just showing one faith on the show.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
They did some lovely quotes from the koran a few weeks ago, so looking at the bible makes it a bit more balanced rather than just showing one faith on the show.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
I don't think you could accuse Eastenders of just showing Islam. Dot quotes the bible every episode!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
Anyway, personally, I'm with Stacey.:)
True! She doesn't sit there with a bible though reading bits though - it's all in her head learnt off by heart as is her character. The introduction of the actual book was new.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
True! She doesn't sit there with a bible though reading bits though - it's all in her head learnt off by heart as is her character. The introduction of the actual book was new.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman