How would Gavin know about his drinking problem? Was it something known when Kathy was still around?
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How would Gavin know about his drinking problem? Was it something known when Kathy was still around?
Yes it was. From what I can remember, Kathy left Phil because his drinking was out of control. He even got violent with her and she was scared for Ben's safety.Quote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
Phil had a broken leg but managed to get from the living room to the kitchen?
They did use to deaden the pain of operationsQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
with alcohol - before anaesthetics!:)
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Originally Posted by maidmarian
my Dad walked around at home for a week with a fractured hip/leg joint before seeking help?Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
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Originally Posted by maidmarian
and thinking about it my Mum broke her ankle, continued taking us swimming as kids and didn't have it diagnosed for three days.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah c
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Originally Posted by maidmarian
and thinking about it my Mum broke her ankle, continued taking us swimming as kids and didn't have it diagnosed for three days.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah c
I went for a hip xray at the walk in centre (GP refered) and they said they couldn't xray me there in case it was broken and could I please get myself to hospital to their xray machine.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah c
I'd hobbled in so I assume people frequently do walk about no broken bones.
I went for a hip xray at the walk in centre (GP refered) and they said they couldn't xray me there in case it was broken and could I please get myself to hospital to their xray machine.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah c
I'd hobbled in so I assume people frequently do walk about no broken bones.
Does Ben really think he can stand up to and threaten Gavin even if he is a Mitchell
Is Jay and Ben still leaving when Jay's ankle tag comes off?
The way to deal with Gavin is obvious. Set Bobby on to him.
You can tell Ben is a Mitchell. He's as arrogant and deluded as Phil. They always seem to think they can scare anyone away, but this Gavin is worse than anyone they've ever faced (someone who makes Archie look like a saint apparently). Though I have to say I admire Ben for standing up to Gavin like that; if only he were more like that with his dad and finally admit to being gay, and tell Phil to accept it and get over it etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Somehow, I think Gavin might be a little much for Bobby to handle.
Bobby is the devil incarnate. No-one can stand up to Bobby. He's already murdered someone and mesmerised the whole Square into getting someone else locked away for his crime. No-one can overcome Bobby. Remember Damien? :ninja:Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
I that it you mean little Damien from Only Fools and Horses????
Well, that made me jump. I am probably not the best person to gauge how scary things are.
It's been a long time since I had a zippo but I have a feeling they get quite warm if you lave them burning. Might be wrong though.
Ad why didn't anyone just blow the thing out or smash his hand away?
Well, that made me jump. I am probably not the best person to gauge how scary things are.
It's been a long time since I had a zippo but I have a feeling they get quite warm if you lave them burning. Might be wrong though.
Ad why didn't anyone just blow the thing out or smash his hand away?
The party revealed the new character. Is that a key n the chain around their neck?
Did Stacey recognise them?
The hospital scene with shabs was good in the sense she's let some more grief out. It is early days in that recovery.
Well, whoever called it was right about Gavin and Sharon, though I was expecting that lawyer (Margaret?) to show up, and Kathy to recognise her as Gavin's sister (though that hasn't been confirmed yet).
I see Abi's still being her usual clingy-self. I thought for a minute she was gonna handcuff herself to Ben to make him go with her. Seriously, it could be the end of the world, and she'd still only think of herself.
"Hello, Princess." Brilliant!!! :cheer:
(For newer viewers, Gavin was mimicking Den when he said that. It's exactly how Den greeted Sharon when they first met after he was resurrected. I believe that was a duff duff too.)
I thought the episode was a little slow overall, but the last twenty minutes or so was entertaining and creepy. I'm now beginning to believe Gavin could rival Archie in the villainy stakes after all. I'm looking forward to seeing more of him - and Sharon's reaction to him. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/s...shocked003.gif
I think Parkerman probably means Damien from the Omen films. He was literally the devil incarnate. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...aid-990255.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by moonstorm
I don't think Stacey recognised him and, yes, that was a key. I'd hazard a guess it's Stacey's key (last seen in the hands of Jean) or its identical twin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
I'm trying to work this out....so is Sharon Ben's step sister as well as his step mother? (with various halves thrown in!)
She is indeed. No halves in step siblings, it's just when one of your parents marries one of theirs. Awkward for the Mitchell side of this equation, but Ian will probably be delighted to have Sharon as a step sister. He's seen her as a sort of sister for a while, but obviously didn't want her to be his half-sister as it would have meant Pete was doing the dirty on Kathy.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Meanwhile Sharon's adoptive half-sister is now her step cousin once removed. As if Sharon's relationships with her siblings weren't complicated enough already.
Yes, of course, you're right. No halves involved because there is no natural parent in common.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
does gavin remind anyone of den even before hello princess
Ha ha, yea that's what i thought, room full of adults and not one person made a draught (orally or some other way) then pounce on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
I mean come on, Ben the Unterrified could have scare him away, maybe by saying "Boo"!!!!
Yes! I think I have pent up anger issues from watching this sort of scene as I am itching for one of them to punch his lights quite literally out! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by owenlee4me
Yes! I think I have pent up anger issues from watching this sort of scene as I am itching for one of them to punch his lights quite literally out! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by owenlee4me
Zippos are well known to "windproof" and hard to extinguish by blowing on the flame. It's possible of course, but any wrong move could have resulted in the lighter ending up in a box of explosives - exactly what they were so desperate to avoid!
The police don't try to tackle someone with their finger on a trigger for the same reason. They try to talk them around and any other measures are only taken when that's failed.
Gavin might not be physically menacing but people who are totally ruthless are scary because they don't have a line they won't cross. Kathy and Ben were completely convinced Gavin would blow them all up without a second thought. No doubt that's a terrifying situation to be in and one in which it's impossible to think clearly.
Yes, a more evil version of him. Seeing as they probably grew up together it's quite realistic really.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I agree Dazzle. I didn't think it was unrealistic at all that they didn't try and blow out the flame or overpower Gavin. He was already talking of blowing himself up with the rest of them and it would only have taken a millisecond to drop the Zippo into the box. If I was there I certainly wouldn't have gone for him in any way.
Did Sharon's brain disappear half way through the episode, because I swear it disappeared towards the end...
What brain's that then?Quote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
I liked the scenes of Sharon and Gavin
Were Den and Eric Mitchell friends too?
Unbelievable! After all that he said, Sharon still didn't up freeing Gavin! And I thought Kathy was the idiot one.
Then again, I can understand her feelings. I mean, finding her birth dad after all this time, she would understandably be shocked and confused, and grieved from all the things he said. Plus, Gavin is a master-manipulator, which we've already seen. But what she's done is obviously going to have repercussions, as he's free now to cause more havoc.
I agree, they were very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Do you mean that she freed Gavin? I'm not so sure that she did. I thought both she and Kathy looked guilty in the final shot, so I assumed both were in the frame. However, my money's on Gavin manipulating Dennis into letting him go. There were long periods when the adults of the household were in the kitchen discussing Gavin, and Dennis was upstairs alone. He could easily have crept downstairs to catch another glimpse of the strange man who'd claimed to be his grandfather.Quote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
Sarah Phelps, the writer who penned the episode where the newly resurrected Den greeted Sharon with the iconic "hello princess", has taken to Twitter to vent her disgust at Gavin claiming the line:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...psVYBrWCJuhNJf
That was a very funny tweet (though I think she's deleted it now), but I wonder if she's jumping the gun a bit there. Gavin quickly changed tack from uncaring brute of a sperm donor when Sharon said she was calling the police. I didn't believe him when he said he gave Den the "hello princess" line. I assumed he was just playing mind games to try to wrong foot her and buy himself more time. I hope she wasn't stupid enough to free the man who kidnapped and abused her husband... :wall:
I'm glad Mick changed his mind about getting rid of Dean permanently. It's good to have one completely moral man in the quagmire of liars, schemers and villains that is Albert Square nowadays. :thumbsup:
It seems I'm alone in not assuming Sharon freed Gavin. Maybe I'm giving her (and the writers) too much credit... :oQuote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
OH it's all just part of the madness that is Eastenders at the moment.
So frustrating. He might have freed himself - but my money is on Sharon - she was last out of the room I think. (It has two doors, the one the copper was stood by and the one just before the kitchen door)
Why didn't the police burst in through all the rooms? They'd had a panic alarm go off. And why no one at the back gate too?
Gavin getting a crack over the head was excellent though.
I'd have liked someone to press the panic button there and then though.
I think it's quite Bond Villain isn't it. They always spend too much time talking to him and not just killing him and then he escapes.
OH it's all just part of the madness that is Eastenders at the moment.
So frustrating. He might have freed himself - but my money is on Sharon - she was last out of the room I think. (It has two doors, the one the copper was stood by and the one just before the kitchen door)
Why didn't the police burst in through all the rooms? They'd had a panic alarm go off. And why no one at the back gate too?
Gavin getting a crack over the head was excellent though.
I'd have liked someone to press the panic button there and then though.
I think it's quite Bond Villain isn't it. They always spend too much time talking to him and not just killing him and then he escapes.
Writer Sarah Phelps has now calmed down about Gavin stealing "hello princess" from Den. Her latest, quite revealing tweet:
Spoiler:
https://twitter.com/PhelpsieSarah/st...39122251321344
I wouldn't be surprised if someone in the know had a word.
Yes, it seems I got it wrong because on every site I've looked everybody assumes Sharon was the culprit. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
why does phil have to give kathy more money, cant ian help her out
whitney and her make over don't fit the pub or carter clan, she is a spare part
why does phil have to give kathy more money, cant ian help her out
whitney and her make over don't fit the pub or carter clan, she is a spare part
Kathy needs a job. What happens to your pension when you've pretended to be dead? She's 64 according to http://eastenders.wikia.com/wiki/Kathy_SullivanQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Kathy needs a job. What happens to your pension when you've pretended to be dead? She's 64 according to http://eastenders.wikia.com/wiki/Kathy_SullivanQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann