Infact the body could now be cut in half or anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by alcapo11
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Infact the body could now be cut in half or anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by alcapo11
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Originally Posted by alcapo11
Neither of those things would prevent identification. There are extremely clever scientists nowadays who can put together ancient skeletons that were scattered over a large area due to being eaten by animals, and tell how old the person/animal was, its cause of death, what it ate, and lots of other fascinating details about its life. Knocked out teeth or a body that's not intact would pose no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by alcapo11
Also, DNA has recently been reconstructed for a 300,000 year old bear (who hadn't been permanently frozen), so I can't imagine a body that's been buried under concrete for eight months would be too much of a problem to identify via DNA.
I realise soap police often get things wrong but they and the forensic scientists would have to be incredibly inept or corrupt to misidentify this body.
Can't it be pinned on Tony, did anyone see him getting rid of Callums car?
He had a motive and opportunity of disposing of the body.
carla should have punched tracy but at least roy made it back to say goodbye
Oh theres a great thought, he had motive and access, not to mention Jason tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Snagglepus
Cops dont need DNA etc to identify Callum, they just need to ask us here :ninja: It was Dazzle what done it officer :ninja:
Tyrone not owning up to being a tool with a shoe under his break pedal and its all Carlas fault .. yawn..Tyrone is a nasty angry little sc@@t. who we are always being told is a nice guy while he kicks someone else because he is having a bad time. Remember him scrapping Ches van because he was having a bad day with beat up wife and the story goes on and on.
Gail realising she had been sleeping over a corpse was priceless.
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Originally Posted by Splashy
How did you find me out? I'll implicate you if you grass me up! :p :moonie:
I see Roy was being his usual calm and logical self in the hospital.
In fact he could almost be described as the Mr Spock of Weatherfield: "That's a very illogical stament there, Captain Carla sir."
Gail looked like E.T. when she was speaking to Carla.
They pretty much messed up Alison Kings exit. The only good bit was the end scene with Roy and Carla. So pleased Roy made it up with her. That was a very moving scene. Loved Carla's line about her not meaning enough for Roy to catch a taxi. Roy on the bus was so perfect and so Roy.
I am really going to miss Alison King and Corrie are certainly going too. I will especially miss her friendship with Roy which was the only thing 'The Hat' got right. I imagine Alison is happy to be out of this mess. I am sure she will do well. I know in an interview she said wanted to spend more time with her daughter.
I don't think the show is worth watching now sadly.
I agree, the exit was disgraceful ! I wish they would have made her smack Tracy before going rather than allowing Tracy to be more despicable and vile to her :angry:
I'm not going to miss Carla, not after the hatchet job that's been done on her character in recent times. Overexposure, one crisis after another, misery heaped upon misery, and Carla was a spent force. That's nothing against Alison King though, and I'd welcome her back in the future under a different writing team.Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
I agree about the way Carla has been written recently. She was such a strong character once but that was taken away from her and she turned into a hopeless whimpering woman who needed a man, whether her fiancee or her father. That was never the Carla we all knew and loved. Such a shame as Alison King is a very good actor.
If only they could have written her character like they've written Tracy, with such variation and different shades to her character with many subtleties......oh, er, hang on a minute....
One of the worst things for me about Carla's exit was that she left in the middle of a police investigation into the crash.
We should have seen her being breathalysed and questioned by the police. Those sorts of scenes would have been far more compelling to me than lengthy and cringeworthy scenes of Carla and Michelle sobbing their goodbyes.
If we're very lucky we'll be rewarded in a few weeks time with one line about whether Carla will face any charges. :wall:
Also, whilst I'm on the subject of the crash, a few minutes of tension about whether Cathy would make it wouldn't have gone amiss instead of just abruptly being told she was okay.
I still think Corrie made a huge mistake with having Carla miscarry Peter's baby, it was a new direction for the character mammy Carla
Was corrie not on on friday. Was it ionly on for 4 nights last week?
Yes. Only four nights last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by swmc66
Thanks
It started last Sunday through to Thursday, sandwiched between Simon Cowell. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by swmc66
I suppose the police must have definitively identified the body as Callum since they repeatedly referred to it by his name. Neither they nor his mother appeared to have any doubts it's him.
I hope the Corrie team at least attempt to keep the investigation realistic. I don't mind some artistic licence as long as it doesn't devolve into complete fantasy.
Is it just a coincidence that both Eastenders and Corrie's long running murder stories are reaching a climax at the same time? :hmm:
Surely not!!! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Im not sure whether a positive identification has been officially made as yetQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
No, it hasn't been mentioned, but I thought it odd that the police and Callum's mum were talking as if they have no doubt the body is Callum if it hasn't been officially identified yet. Still, stranger things have happened in Corrie...Quote:
Originally Posted by alan45
I presume that because Callum´s credit card was found on the body and he has been missing for a while the police are not in much doubt that they yhave the right body pending further forensic testsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
True, I just don't think the police in real life would repeatedly refer to it as Callum Logan until a definitive ID was made. I think they'd more likely refer to it as "the body presumed to be Callum Logan" or similar. However, I don't actually know and am making an assumption that might well be incorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
The first time the police made contact with David Platt they said a body had been found, not yet identified but there was the credit card in his name and as it was well known to the police that Callum and the Platts had had issues, they came to ask questionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
If it's not Callum's body, I'd still like to know how it got there. If it was already there I think David might have noticed it when he buried Callum! If it got there after Callum miraculously crawled out after appearing to be dead, how did it get there?
I think that was last week, the episode after the body was discovered. They said at the time it would take a while to definitively identify it because of decomposition. My point is that this week there's been no mention of any doubt over identification.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
I also think any parent, no matter how sure they were intellectually that a body was their missing child, wouldn't be able to stop themselves hoping it wasn't. Callum's mum (I can never remember her name) didn't appear to doubt it was him or to be holding out any hope it isn't.
But as I say, I'm making assumptions and probably overthinking it. :o
I don't think there's any doubt it is Callum! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Tina Obrien said in an interview that Sarah will have frequent visions and flashbacks of Cllum, she is also watched by someone at his funeral and Bethany receives gifts from a "secret admirer". Gemma did tell David to watch his back, so maybe Callums mate are the ones behind it but I think it would be a good twist if it turned put to be Callum himself. I have a feeling that the police will eventually question Denton to then find out that he is also missing. So the police might assume that he has ran away because he was the one who done it. When really its his body that has been misidentified as Callum.
Yeah its a pretty rubbish theory but I would prefer this to happen than someone simply getting arrested for it and then thats that.
Tina Obrien said in an interview that Sarah will have frequent visions and flashbacks of Cllum, she is also watched by someone at his funeral and Bethany receives gifts from a "secret admirer". Gemma did tell David to watch his back, so maybe Callums mate are the ones behind it but I think it would be a good twist if it turned put to be Callum himself. I have a feeling that the police will eventually question Denton to then find out that he is also missing. So the police might assume that he has ran away because he was the one who done it. When really its his body that has been misidentified as Callum.
Yeah its a pretty rubbish theory but I would prefer this to happen than someone simply getting arrested for it and then thats that.
I can imagine David sending the presents as he is trying to blame Jason for the murder at the momentQuote:
Originally Posted by alcapo11
How would that help put Jason in the frame?Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
How would that help put Jason in the frame?Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Sarah is clearly unwell. The man she thought was Callum in yesterday's episode looked nothing like him when I paused the shot. It was just a tall man with dark hair dressed similarly to Callum.Quote:
Originally Posted by alcapo11
It's also a known psychological phenomenon that people who are grieving often see their deceased loved one's face in a crowd. I experienced this myself repeatedly when my father died and it was very unnerving. I imagine that Sarah, although not exactly grief-stricken, is experiencing something similar due to stress and trauma.
As I've explained before, misidentification is highly unlikely with today's science. Even if there hasn't yet been a definitive DNA identification, the pathologist will have been able to say whether or not the body is the same height, body shape, hair colour, age etc as Callum. Denton looked nothing like him.
Yeah but we dodnt know what state the body is in, it has been recently run over. Im sure they could try to explain it in some way, it is soapland after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Yeah but we dont know what state the body is in, it has been recently run over. Im sure they could try to explain it in some way, it is soapland after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
They can still get around that although it would take longer and perhaps more expertise than a local pathologist.Quote:
Originally Posted by alcapo11
Anyway, the body wasn't run over. The concrete and metal cover over the manhole were broken under the weight of the vehicle and the wheel sank into the hole a little, that's all. I doubt if the body was significantly damaged. The police would have already said if ID would be difficult due to damage caused by the truck. All that was mentioned was decomposition.
Bearing in mind that this is a soap its perfectly feasible that the body is not Callum. David dumps body of Callum whom he presumes is dead. Callum wakes up in hole in Gails boudoir. Crawls out of hole and kills one of his druggie pals and dumps him in hole along with his plastic card. If the body is badly decomposed there may not be any prints but DNA identification will prove who it actually is. No mention has been made of this by the polis who of course are stilll at the scene
He was wrapped tightly in a blanket, which he'd have had to wriggle his way out of in a tiny space with a serious head injury. It surely wouldn't be worth the risk of returning to the scene afterwards with a dead body in tow?Quote:
Originally Posted by alan45
Also, even without a DNA identification, they'll know by now that the body was very tall and thin with black hair. Denton was bald and chubby if I remember correctly; it would be a huge coincidence if Callum killed someone as unusually tall and thin as himself.
I know I'm making a big assumption here that the police investigating Callum's death aren't quite as inept as some we've seen in soap, but I really can't see how it's feasible now that it wasn't Callum in the hole if they want the story to have some semblance of reality.
I hope Corrie doesn't disappoint me here... :wall: