peter and lauren could be on facebook or lauren still in contact with stacey or carol
abi wont want lauren knowing she shopped in their dad
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peter and lauren could be on facebook or lauren still in contact with stacey or carol
abi wont want lauren knowing she shopped in their dad
peter and lauren could be on facebook or lauren still in contact with stacey or carol
abi wont want lauren knowing she shopped in their dad
What he did to Louise and Heather Trott? What about Jordan Johnson?
ben killed heather and burnt louise in the hands what stella did to himQuote:
Originally Posted by Kim
ben killed heather and burnt louise in the hands what stella did to himQuote:
Originally Posted by Kim
I doubt the police know that Ben hurt Louise, and would his other crimes be admissible in court?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Even with the fingerprints on the bag and phone, the evidence against Ben is only circumstantial. If the police find Lucy's blood in the car lot office, that would be much stronger evidence I think (but then Max doesn't have Ben's violent history).
Still making my way through last week's episodes but I was referring to Phil's comment to Ian.
The police don't know about Louise, no. A jury wouldn't be told about a defendant's history but if found guilty, Jordan and Heather would be relevant at sentencing. Jordan was struck with an object by Ben also (a spanner.) He would get a much stronger sentence if ever convicted again and Marsden said something about it being a category A prison next time.
Why is Abi being interviewed in the presence of Sharon? She's 19 and an adult. Is that even legal?
I was thinking that too ... maybe Sharon was there for moral support ?
I would think moral support should stop in the waiting area, especially as Ben is her stepson. The way Abi kept looking at Sharon would cast doubt too, as would the timing of her saying that Max went back out. Although Max confirmed that in his conversation with Carol, it would look dodgy to me on their side of the table, like she was saying anything to help Ben because Marsden had caught her out in telling her the time that Jane claims to have seen Lucy.
I still don't get how Marsden isn't charging Phil with concealing evidence. She'd take anything to get him behind bars.
Abi will be in even more hot water later because she lied and left out the part where she saw Lucy; also helping with the car lot clear up.
At this rate we could soon have Ben, Phil, Max, Abi and Jay all arrested.....
I think you recently posed the question
"have the Police in EE ever arrested the
right suspect?".
Well with all the above plus perhaps one
or two more -if they do arrest them all-
they are really doing their best-pity it will
still probably be wrong!!
Dupl
I think we can ask agree that, as usual in soaps, the police procedures last week were shockingly inaccurate. Sharon sitting in with Abi must have been one of the worst faux pas. At least Keeble's complained about Marsden's lax approach to following the rules.
I failed to consider Abi getting into trouble about cleaning the blood. I suppose she could wriggle out of it by saying Max coerced her to stay quiet. Max might even go along with that to save her.
I'm still of the opinion that Max will be the one charged with Lucy's murder, but I'm sure there's still some surprising twists yet to come. Him being imprisoned would certainly give a good excuse for Lauren to return without Peter in the future (if there's a reasonable excuse why she didn't find out immediately). Then again, Jane's said all along she's willing to take the blame - so she might yet confess. I can't see her letting someone rot in jail for long. (Maybe you should add her to your list, Parkerman? :D)
Lauren does know that Bobby killed Lucy, I think. It was implied that Peter told her at the graveside. I presume she's fine with it as long as no one is being wrongly punished for it, or at least no one that she cares about.
(Not that I ever bought Peter not going to the police, but there we go.)
Why can't they just arrest Dean and have done with it?
it would be poetic justice if abi got herself in the frame for the murder trying to frame max to get ben out
Yes, it certainly appeared that Peter told Lauren about Bobby at Lucy's graveside, so I'm going on the assumption she knows. However, the writers could legitimately retcon it since we didn't hear the actual words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
I think Abi genuinely thinks Max killed Lucy.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
i thought during live episode abi and max came clean as both thought the other killed lucy so that was cleared up between then
I thought the same. I guess we're now supposed to think that Abi suspects Max of double bluffing.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Hopefully this inconsistency will be explained. I think she genuinely does suspect Max because in my opinion she acting like someone who's reluctantly telling the truth. Also, it'd be out of character for her to be so cold-blooded as to frame her own father. That's an evil thing to do! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Everything seems up for retconning. Dominic's era started off quite well in the continuity stakes but now he even retcons his own work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I wouldn't find it convincing at all. Lauren wasn't going to go with him so he must have said something pretty big to get her to change her mind. I think Lauren even thought that Peter might have done it so she'd have to know the truth to trust him again.
Yeah. Typical soap thing of audience finds out who the culprit is and all other residents conveniently stop worrying about who did it. In the episodes I have seen, I can't remember Abi showing any signs of being concerned about whether he might have done it between February and now. The same goes for Mick last week, suddenly deciding that what Ian said that night bothers him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
she is so in love with a gay bloke she'd do anything for him even frame her dad hopefully whitney or carol get on to lauren fastQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
she is so in love with a gay bloke she'd do anything for him even frame her dad hopefully whitney or carol get on to lauren fastQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Abi has changed, she stalked her own sister and she is so obsessed with Ben and him wanting, loving and needing her she wants Ben out of jailQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I must admit I'm not so sure Abi thinks Max is guilty after Monday's episode. She still seems torn to me, so I'd say she thinks it's a possibility he did it, but she doesn't really seem to care too much either way. The manner in which she off-handedly said the police would let him go if he's innocent was pretty callous! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I know Abi's changed a lot from the nice girl she once was, but I still think it's a major character transplant for her to frame her own father for murder (if that's what she's doing). Maybe the whole point of the Max conning Ben storyline was to make Abi hate her father? http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...sed-140297.gif
I forgot about the drop of blood that fell on Max's shoe (I think it happened when Lucy fell over and hit her head in the car lot office). It's definitely Lucy's blood, so there's going to have to be a major new twist to get him off the hook now. Jay's still in the frame of course...
I don't think Lauren's going to be involved at the moment because the truth about Bobby would come out. I can't see that happening because, from what I've read, twisted Bobby is going to be a long-running storyline for the Beales.
It is possible that under pressure from Lauren to get her dad off, Jane "confesses" to the murder to protect Bobby and tells Ian and Lauren not to tell the police it was Bobby. That would still leave EE free to develop the Bobby Beale as a twisted psycho story. Mind you, I've not heard about Laurie Brett leaving any time soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I hope the writers don't forget or ignore the fact that Lauren and Peter know it was Bobby
Max is Lauren's dad and also the ex husband of Tanya who is Jane's best friend and Tanya is also on good terms with Adam aka Ian too :p
I don't think they will forget about Peter and Lauren knowing and this could well be the key to getting Max out.
Sooner or later Abi will find out about Ben's relationship with Paul . This may cause her to contact Lauren and Peter about Max ? Is it for sure Max gets convicted of Lucy's murder?
he is jail next week carol wants phil's ex stripper solicitor to represent himQuote:
Originally Posted by Glen1
he is jail next week carol wants phil's ex stripper solicitor to represent himQuote:
Originally Posted by Glen1
Entertainment as well as free board &Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
lodging!!!
Entertainment as well as free board &Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
lodging!!!
You could well be right Glen!Quote:
Originally Posted by Glen1
I knew a girl in this situation and
when she found out the truth-
It turned very nasty - even by EE standards!!
A "woman scorned"doesnt even begin
to describe what she did.
You could well be right Glen!Quote:
Originally Posted by Glen1
I knew a girl in this situation and
when she found out the truth-
It turned very nasty - even by EE standards!!
A "woman scorned"doesnt even begin
to describe what she did.
i think abi could see ben with any dude straddling him and she'd still want benQuote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
i think abi could see ben with any dude straddling him and she'd still want benQuote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
Yes- finding out the truth doesnt seem to cureQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
that sort of obsession - in fact can make it
stronger!!
It was the vengeance thats sought and the
damage done that I was referring to.
Because seem to still want that - even tho
it would make the object of their obsession
think even less of them!
They arent thinking rationally- or at all.