Yes-the medical staff probably realisedQuote:
Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur
he was more doddery than the potential
patient -so better err on side of caution??!
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Yes-the medical staff probably realisedQuote:
Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur
he was more doddery than the potential
patient -so better err on side of caution??!
i see kevin, jenny and writers remembered kevin's dead child this time out
oh mary, her brenbren proved he his a cheating ahole, worthy of a few whacks too
I was hoping Dev would whack him one when he followed him out of the RoversQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
i did laugh at erica spelling wh&re to mary who is reading scarlett letter
why is kate so worried about sophie she has barely known her
that wasn't shirley eva bassey really singing was it?
i did laugh at erica spelling wh&re to mary who is reading scarlett letter
why is kate so worried about sophie she has barely known her
that wasn't shirley eva bassey really singing was it?
Mary's shame and self-torment about her fling with a married man is sad but she doesn't half come out with some great lines! :D
She's falling for her I think. Who saw that coming? :searchme: :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I don't know, but I assume it was really Eva singing. It did however sound pre-recorded.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Shane Ward should have grabbed the Mike as well
I knew it, I just knew it!
They have done absolutely no research at all into Council elections or, if they have, they've completely ignored what they've found.
1. Just because a Councillor has been accused of fraud doesn't mean he would automatically lose his seat.
2. OK, let's say he resigned. It seemed from what Ken said that the "resignation" had just happened, so they'd have to wait for the Returning Officer to send out an official notice of the vacancy and then wait for two or more electors to call a by-election.
But, above all....
3. If a vacancy occurs this close to an actual election there would not be a by-election and the vacancy would just be carried until then.
Your knowledge puts the Corrie scriptwriters to shame, parkerman! :bow: :)
Coronation Street has turned into Judgemental Street yet again. Nary a month goes by without most of the residents ganging up on someone innocent(ish). I wish they'd change the record! Still, at least this time the true victim of Jenny's breakdown, Kevin, is behaving decently.
Sally used to be good friends with Jenny so her callous attitude is doubly ridiculous. She needs to be taken down a peg or two hundred when she's in judge, jury and executioner mode, so I wasn't sorry that Jenny threatened her. The latter is obviously still a villain even when sane. I wonder what havoc she'll wreak this time? I hope Rita's not in the firing line. :(
I'm beginning to hope Sally doesn't win the election. She's already intolerable and l dread the monster that would be created if she won. Luckily for us, she's got no chance unless Ken manages to tame and educate her. Perhaps Jenny will find a way to sabotage her?
I'm liking the slavery storyline already. Eva's a good character to get involved I think. Her appalled reaction to the girl's story was very convincing.
Mary: "Amongst you all, the corpses of dead relationships must lie ten deep." :lol:
I wish Mary was used for more than just comic relief. Patti Clare is an excellent actress who commands the screen when she's in full flow.
Well.Dazzle -I agree strongly with your commentsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
about Mary ( and Eva)
And of course Parkermans comments about local
elections are based on actual knowledge!
Re Sally -not decided -Jennys involvement clouds
things??
The only point of Jenny is to be "nasty"!
Unfortunately she has not progressed beyond her
first stint as a teenager in Corrie. She is meant to
be a40+ woman but the acting/ writing does not
reflect that.
And I do wish they would not" tag tragedies" onto
unpleasant characters to try to redeem them!
Imo- it doesnt work and insults those who have
experienced such a tragedy.Especially when acting
poo
So all set for more more glossing over parts with.
Jenny being predictably boring-but thats my
choice!
Perhaps Kevin is the one with sense on this occasion-
He sees her for what she is and realises theres no
point in invoolvement?
Well.Dazzle -I agree strongly with your commentsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
about Mary ( and Eva)
And of course Parkermans comments about local
elections are based on actual knowledge!
Re Sally -not decided -Jennys involvement clouds
things??
The only point of Jenny is to be "nasty"!
Unfortunately she has not progressed beyond her
first stint as a teenager in Corrie. She is meant to
be a40+ woman but the acting/ writing does not
reflect that.
And I do wish they would not" tag tragedies" onto
unpleasant characters to try to redeem them!
Imo- it doesnt work and insults those who have
experienced such a tragedy.Especially when acting
poor.
So all set for more more glossing over parts with.
Jenny being predictably boring-but thats my
choice!
Perhaps Kevin is the one with sense on this occasion-
He sees her for what she is and realises theres no
point in invoolvement?
My complaints about Jenny's treatment aren't made out of sympathy for her in particular (especially now her true colours have been revealed) but out of frustration at the vilification of someone who - as far as most of the people involved are concerned - only acted the way she did last time because she was ill.
Rita and Kevin understand the situation, but Sally (Jenny's former friend) has no sympathy with the loss of a child and resultant mental illness.
It was just the same when Steve was suffering depression and had the accident. The lack of understanding and judgmental attitudes of some of the residents (who've known and respected him for years) was beyond belief. It's the same old cliche of condemning the innocent that Corrie dusts off with depressing regularity. Carla was the last victim. Of course, this being Corrie, Carla's accusers were deafeningly silent when Tracy was revealed as the true culprit. :wall:
I'm glad we agree on Mary and Eva, maidmarian! :)
I do agree about the condenmation and judgementsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
( probably dates from Ena Sharples days)!!
A traditition.!! A lot of the long term characters
know.about Jennys history! And will assume guilt as
current viewers probably would about Tracy now!
But innocent til proven guilty-
However unlikely!!! Rita will.probably be a victim again!
Was very sorry for Steve and did post so at the time)
& also Carla!! And Tracy - what she has got away with!!
Its just Jenny is not believable to me -in the role !
But no more on the subject!
Its a forum.for a variety of opinions!!:):)
Loved Sally's face when Ken mentioned the word 'manifesto' . She hadn't got a clue what it meant !
Of course Beth is going to find the £10 in a pocket. So,so predictable.
Yes, that maybe what the Jenny story is leading to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
However, in the REAL world, Sally would not stand a cat in you-know-where's chance of winning the election. She has to be standing as an independent which means no party machine behind her and, as we've seen, she's just got a ramshackle outfit to back her. I don't know how big the ward she's standing in is but it would be much bigger than just Coronation Street and adjacent streets. She would be completely unknown throughout most of it and would have to get round every house leafletting, canvassing, etc. etc. to get herself and her views known. That ain't gonna happen in the arbitrary four week period Corrie seems to have set for this by-election campaign.:wall:
Also voters would see right through Sally. I have'nt seen the last two episodes but can imagine what happened. Always rushing with plots.
Oh - there was a plot!!Quote:
Originally Posted by swmc66
Thought it was a "free expression " episode!
I always enjoy reading your posts whether I agree or not so I hope you feel free to opine as much as you like. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
I do see your point about Jenny anyway. However, the standard of some of the acting on Corrie is so poor that perhaps Sally Ann Matthews appears better to me by comparison!
I hope Jenny sabotages Sally's campaign for the good of mankind
That would be a first -Jenny doing anythingQuote:
Originally Posted by swmc66
for the good of anyone but Jenny!
I agree tho the local election story is being
written in a nonsensical way!
I think Sally as Jenny plays the part well
I am enjoying Erica and Mary's friendship
Agreed, they unexpectedly bring out the best in one another. I hope the writers have the sense to build on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Sally has turned into one right old nasty c*w. I love funny Sally, but they have got to be careful turning her nasty, as Sally is not like that, snobbish, even waspish, but not plain nasty. No.
I might be totally wrong (I often am :o), but I'm sure I recall Sally being just as nasty on other occasions (Sophie coming out as a lesbian springs to mind). That side of her character has been toned down in recent years, however, and it's annoying to see it resurface.Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Everyone has nasty moments inc Sally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I think Rosie was always her favourite because
she was more lively-Sophie always moany
( rather than a sexuality issue) could be wrong!
Recently theyve made her more funny
and likeable( with Tim) so her current
behaviour in this silly election story stands out
even more.
At one time I did wonder if she would
develop into a latter day Annie Walker?!:rotfl:
jenny and mr.connor, romance?
Yes does look like Johnny likes JennyQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
So now Sally is on Jenny's side, is she afraid :p
Anna should tell Kevin and seriously everyone on Phelan's side despite knowing Anna longer come on Eileen :angry:
Knowing Anna for a long time is WHY they are on Phelan's side!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
You are right :p but seriously everyone on the street knows Owen lost his business and home because of Phelan and they side with him :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Yes that was funny with Sally sticking up for Jenny.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I thought it was a bit rich Eileen having ago at Anna with her track record and who is she shaggin, family fortunes Michael Rodwell.
It was a bit ground hog day on CS tonight what with Simon and Leanne. It was bit third rate tonight, which is a shame because the last couple of episodes have improved.
Re Irene ,Owen bullied her so its no shock shes not team Owen, anyway, I have a Phelan shes to be Pats new squeeze...come on Irene. (over songs are available)
Ken re Simon, his step daughter convicted of murder, he didnt care, hes always going to shrug off violence etc, saves him an easy life.
Re Irene ,Owen bullied her so its no shock shes not team Owen, anyway, I have a Phelan shes to be Pats new squeeze...come on Irene. (over songs are available)
Ken re Simon, his step daughter convicted of murder, he didnt care, hes always going to shrug off violence etc, saves him an easy life.
[QUOTE=tammyy2j;842711]You are right :p but seriously everyone on the street knows Owen lost his business and home because of Phelan and they side with him
The actress playing Anna put in a very "strange"
performance throughout the period when her
ordeal with Phelan was happening and didnt (to
me) seem to convey the repulsion 99%+ women
in that position would feel .!!
It wasnt just 1 episode - so there was time
to develop it.
Ive no idea why- bad acting / story going to be written
with different e-nding - until actor playing Owen
decided to leave - or what ???
I think that may be why there is the indifference
to Annas story. She doesnt attract sympathy
bacause of her own behaviour / acting.
Its no good having a strong storyline if the actor
cant convey their feelings to the viewers-
Fayes story would have been much better with
another actress? as the mother figure.
The actress playing Anna comes across to me as
knowing better than everyone else in interviews etc.
re Owen - he was very unpleasnt at the start but
did mellow - was kinder to Faye than Anna and
built bridges with his own daughters!
But isnt he in lurv- thats always more importantQuote:
Originally Posted by Splashy
than relatives etc.
The whole thing's ridiculous! :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I know Anna's an unlikable character, and I've done more than my fair share of complaining about her myself, but Phelan is just so much worse in every possible way that my sympathies lie with Anna in this particular instance. What he did to her was outrageous and, like any victim of abuse (because that's what sexual coercion is), she feels too ashamed and guilty to confess all.
The Anna/Kevin aspect of the Phelan storyline isn't working for me either. I think the couple should have been together for at last six months before their relationship was tested like this.
At it is, Kevin's totally dismissive of Anna's concerns (and remember he's known her for years) and takes a known conman's word over her's. As Kevin sees it, Anna's all of a sudden become an unstable nightmare who throws wild accusations at innocent employees of his. They've been together for all of a few weeks and haven't exchanged declarations of love, so why on earth are they still together after what must seen like totally unreasonable behaviour from each other? :searchme:
I do think Phelan conning Jason (and also Kevin if Anna wasn't involved) is potentially a good storyline though.
Alex Bain is totally convincing as a nightmare teenager. I know because I had one of my own a decade ago! :o
(She wasn't violent I hasten to add, and has long since grown out of it.)
[QUOTE=Dazzle;842736]The whole thing's ridiculous! :angry:
I know Anna's an unlikable character, and I've done more than my fair share of complaining about her myself, but Phelan is just so much worse in every possible way that my sympathies lie with Anna in this particular instance. What he did to her was outrageous and, like any victim of abuse (because that's what sexual coercion is), she feels too ashamed and guilty to confess all.
Quote:
I dont tnink anyone would reserve their sympathy
for only real people / characters that tbey liked in
cases of sexual abuse. Its far too repugnant a matter
for that.
You have mentioned other strands in the story
that are weakly written etc and I would agree with
your comments.
But for whatever reasons at the time of acting
the scenes of coersion between Anna & Phelan
were not acted well. Also is it not a Directors
job to ensure scenes flow and are cohesive.
Anna was not needing to.hide any thing at stage?
And performances should have been corrected
then -so that later stages of story would be
realistic.
To me -its another important storyline- where
the wrong person was allowed too much
freedom at an early stage. So the message is
lost and the prejudices of surface thinkers
are fed. Soaps should be more responsible
and take the whole story view
Alex Bain is totally convincing as a nightmare teenager. I know because I had one of my own
!)
To be honest, I can't remember the acting or all of the details because the whole thing made me feel so nauseous. It doesn't surprise me to hear it was neither written, directed or acted well though! :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
I do remember Anna hid the initial harassment because she felt she needed to keep Phelan onside for Owen's sake, was afraid of how Owen would react if he found out, and I think because she thought she could handle it.
I know this is true from the "hilarious" jokes I've read on other sites about how much Anna enjoyed the sex with Phelan. :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
anyone else notice that Simon's nose in the football scenes seemed a totally different and paler colour to his face?
did he turn greenQuote:
Originally Posted by sarah c