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Originally Posted by sarah c
Thats what I thought! It would be a shame if
he was Deans father and not Micks .But have to
wait and see if subject is ever mentioned on EE.
I do wonder how much research they did and
how much specialist advice they received
.And if theres still a surprise to come as there
seem to be some rare variations.
I'm glad Kat and Alfie got a happy ending - of sorts. I assume he thinks he can have secret treatment in Spain. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...sed-140297.gif
It felt like a goodbye for Big Mo too with the news of her engagement and sight of Fat Elvis at long last! :eek:Nice to see Buster subtly nudging Shirley away from Dean and towards Mick. I was wryly amused that neither of his parents believed Dean that his daughter's alive! http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...vil-695223.gifSpoiler:
It was deeply frustrating to be teased like that but I guess it served DTC's purpose by whetting our appetites for the spin-off. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...-no-068329.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
According to this blood type calculator, where one parent is an A and the other is a B they can have offspring with all possible blood types, so it's certainly possible Buster is both Mick and Dean's father. I believe this is possible because O is a recessive gene.Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
I think it is settled for Dean otherwise he'd have tried to prove Mick wrong. As it is he accepted the verdict straight away.Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
I'm pretty sure that Dean will go sooner or later. He just can't be kept around the square or EE will lose a lot of viewers.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
The writers can't be trying to whitewash him (as I feared) because he's been shown to be becoming more unstable and violent (Shabnam and Shirley were both scared of him the other day) so he has to get his comeuppance and leave the square at the end of the story (whenever that will be!). I'm still hoping that he'll go to prison if it turns out he raped Shabnam. If he doesn't, being outcast from his family (including his daughter) will hurt him deeply and permanently - so I think I could just about live with that.
Are Kat and Alfie getting a mortgage to buy the bar in Spain and that is why medical tests were needed? The won a million pound they wouldn't need a mortgage
Alfie throws his doctor letter away in the Square, someone will find it, Sonia already knows he is sick by his medical questions to her about his friend
Also what did Alfie and Kat take with them, the car was packed, roof and trailer, was it furniture :p everything of theirs burnt
Mick always gives in to Shirley, Buster is right she has two sons she needs to start putting Mick first
I do like the scenes between Mick and Buster
I was expecting the Sr. to tell Stacey or Mo about Kat's son
So will EE address why Kat and Alfie end up in Ireland instead of Spain
I hope Dot rots in prison. She murdered Ethel now she has murdered her son. It's a pity we don't have The Chair any more. She should be locked up in a violent Borstal where she will get the abuse she deserves. Throw the key away.
I agree - I don't understand why they had to borrow money. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...sed-630530.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
They've accumulated a hell of a lot of stuff since the fire, especially since they've been totally brassic! http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...sed-140297.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I really wish Mick wouldn't have a bar of Shirley until she admits Dean raped Linda and apologises profusely! Accepting anything less makes light of Linda's suffering (from the rape itself and the later accusations and harassment). :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
We may get some limited information from Stacey but I think we'll have to wait until the spin-off for any juicy details.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I did think the nun might write to Kat at her old address to tell her about her long lost son. Stacey can then forward the letter to her.
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Originally Posted by Mo Mouse
It makes some sense. If they dipped, quite a lot, into that million for the bar, starting a new life, etc. They'd have a lot less of a nest egg as opposed to have million pound nest egg and a payable mortgage from a viable business. In all honesty I would do this rather than just blast through the million. That way, I have a million quid, a profitable business and a large interest from the milion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
But then again, Alfie did say he'd buy the Vic for 900k so I dont think they are that smart.
It makes some sense. If they dipped, quite a lot, into that million for the bar, starting a new life, etc. They'd have a lot less of a nest egg as opposed to have million pound nest egg and a payable mortgage from a viable business. In all honesty I would do this rather than just blast through the million. That way, I have a million quid, a profitable business and a large interest from the milion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
But then again, Alfie did say he'd buy the Vic for 900k so I dont think they are that smart.
The paternity subject is closed by the careful selection of these blood groups. Any others and it wouldn't have been 100%.
O is indeed recessive meaning that you have to inherit a genotype of OO to be Type O. One gene comes from each parent. You can inherit one A or B gene and one O gene, and the A or B dominate. Inherit an A and B and they are co-dominant.
Buster can be the natural father of both Mick and Dean. He and Shirley must be genotypes AO and BO - passing O's to Mick and the A and B to Dean. Had Dean simply been A or B, they'd have to have got a DNA test as they wouldn't have known whether he was AA, BB, AO or BO. The first two would rule him out, whereas with the second two, he would still have had an O to give.
(That's assuming your medical records don't show your genotype. I don't think they do but I'm not certain.)
Mick and Linda found a bar in Spain for about 150k, so I think they could've bought everything outright and still had half of it left.Quote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
Why lose half of it when u can keep all of it... That way they're maximising the interest from the bank, have a mortgage which is paid for by the bar and kept the 1 mill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Or.. Look at it this way, the interest for the mill pays for the mortgage meaning a free bar.
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A few points re Kat&Alfies need to "borrow "
money from bank ?? and for medical tests.
What were their finances pre lottery win-
Did they already owe bank from before?
Even if they were in an IVA -it is possible
for later winnings/legacies to be taken into
account in settling the IVA. That may mean
less available money but then shouldn't
be getting further finance if IVA not settled?
If it was a debt with bank they may have
declared a health condition ( not Alfies new
problem) previously and bank may wish
to check current health.
Re property values. based on estimate for
bar in Spain-further finance seems unnecessary
unless they want to keep a lot of available
capital from Lottery Win. and do as Dan
suggests- Perhaps they had advice from
National Lottery - tho that might be for even
bigger amounts.
No idea what current value of Vic pub is- but
last year there was some publicity about
how unrealistic it was for the residents of
the square to be living there-in their types of
unemploym ent!
The houseprices in the actual Square in Hackney
on which Albert Square is based were at the
time £1million for 3 bed/ 2bath and £662k
as an average! Perhaps Alfies est was correct.!!
The reason for health check is now apparent
-so Alfie would find out his new health problem
and Bank and financing just a means of
doing that.
Dupl
I doubt they could get interest paid on the whole amount or anywhere close to it. Many accounts will only pay interest up to an amount such as £2,500 and you can only have an account or two with each provider. Even if they could put it all in an ISA, I think they'd still pay more interest on the bar than they received.Quote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
It all struck me as a very contrived way to give Alfie bad news.
Re: The value of the Vic, Phil was asking 800k when he sold it. I think Alfie was quite desperate for it so offered above the odds.
I agree whole situation is contrivedQuote:
Originally Posted by Kim
and with the points about interest
rates etc available to most investors
I think if you have a lot of money to
invest are prepared to commit for
considerable time accept restrictions
on withdrawals and take some risk -
you can get better rates of interest but
not many people can or wish to do that!
Dupl
Interesting discussion guys. :)
I think Kat and Alfie must have done as Dan suggests and got a mortgage so they could keep hold of their capital. Even if interest on the million didn't pay for the bar they were probably hoping the bar would pay for itself (and their new home) so they could keep their nest egg intact.
The trouble is, as several of you have pointed out, it's just not in character for them to be so sensible (especially given the speed at which it all happened)!
Talking of finances, it's always bugged me where Mick got a bagful of cash (£800,000 was it?) to pay Phil for the Vic. Since it's never been explained or even alluded to the writers must just not want us to think about it too hard! http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...sed-140297.gif
National Lottery provide independent financialQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
advisors to visit some winners. I found this
applies to winners who.win £500,000+
so.Alfie & Kat would qualify.
They advise to " take your time" and there
can be tax implicationd if you give away
money and then die within ?7years.
Also.how to.make your money last and
provde an income for future yeard.
So.perhaps Alfie took.some advice from
them. I know some advisors think
you should retain as much capital.as possible
(similar to Dan suggestion)
Im sure Im too cautious but who knows if
you got a million or more!!
Dupl
Who would give Alfie and Kat a mortgage given their history of bad debts even if they won a million pounds?
I think EE should do another episode about them explaining why they end up in Ireland instead of Spain to entice viewers to the spin off show
That would be the logical thing to do Tammy, but I suppose all will be revealed in the first episode of their new series.
Good to see Fat Elvis put in an appearance, liked him. Would have been a good addition to the cast teamed up with Mo imo. Was Mo given any of the winnings, I didn't think so, very selfish of Alfie and Kat ,Mo has been very supportive to them in the past?
Finally did the Convent Sister manage to speak to Kat before they left ?
I was a bit disappointed all those loose ends were left with Kat and Alfie's departure. Would have liked more before they went, and it's a long time to wait until we see them again.
I don't think it was selfish of Kat and Alfie not to give Mo anything. They could go on forever sharing with people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glen1
The Convent Sister didn't catch up with Kat, but wish she had. Guess we'll have to wait a long time to find out what happens next. Unless we hear from another character who's in touch with Kat and Alfie.
My guess with regard to Alfi & Kat's money, investing, loans etc. is that the producer and scriptwriters made it up as they went along to suit the story they wanted to tell.
I imagine they did share some of it with family - or will do in the future. It'd be out of character for them not to do so. It would have been nice to have a line or two of dialogue to that effect!Quote:
Originally Posted by Glen1
No, she left when she saw how happy Kat is now and realised she didn't want to spoil that. I think she might write to her about it in the future though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glen1
You lot are too impatient to find out how Kat and Alfie end up in Ireland! All will be revealed in good time. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...ool-525376.gif
I think having a million pounds in the bank forgives a lot of sins. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
That's the best explanation that's been given so far! http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smile...mileys-842.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
More than likely!Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Would that be also your guess as to the source
of Micks £800k -in a bag-to buy Vic .
As mentioned in Dazzles post -??
More than likely!Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Would that be also your guess as to the source
of Micks £800k -in a bag-to buy Vic .
As mentioned in Dazzles post -??
I think Dominic should have written their exit better for the new spin off to entice viewers to watchQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Well all I can say is they've done a good job as far as I'm concerned because I'm very keen to find out what happens next. I didn't know if I'd watch the spin-off when I first found out about it as I don't like Alfie and haven't enjoyed Kat as a character for a long time. However I've been hooked by recent events and definitely want to follow their story now. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Everyone seems to have wads of cash in EE. They pull out rolls of fifties, twenties or tens from their pocket or wallet. Banks generally seem to be no go areas for the residents of Albert Square...except when they need some money urgently, go to the cash machine and find all their money's gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
even when anyone is brassic they can afford pub and takeaways
Common occurrence in all soaps ....
....and holidays.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
kim forking donna wheel was funny
martin marrying stacey before year end yes that will not happen
billy casper friendly ghost also funny
fatima and massod will more likely get together
So it's looking like my theory that Dean raped Shabnam isn't going to pan out. I'm still holding out hope that Shabs remembers more about that night though. Even if it's never mentioned again I'll still remain convinced he did because the rapist scumbag thinks he's entitled to take what he wants. :angry:
I feel sorry for poor Roya being brought into that messy situation. :thumbsdow
I really like Fatima and wouldn't be averse to her and Masood having a relationship now that Inzamam is conveniently out of the way.
The scene in the pub between Kim and Donna was very funny even though it felt wrong of me to laugh at Kim piercing Donna's tyre. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...ppy-514478.gif
Since when has Martin been such a creep? I'm sure he didn't used to be like that. Do we believe him that he and Stacey will be married within the year? Lizann obviously doesn't! :D
Nancy to Mick - think it is easy being a little ******* child :p
I don't want Stacey to come between Kush and Shabham, her with Martin could work even if he tries too much with her coming off as a sleaze better leave that to Max
Kim was great as usual very funny
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The kiss is bound to come out. Did it go any further? Poor Shabs! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j