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Does Cindy not want Beth now?
And we have another broke person in Eastenders in Martin who now lives in his van
I don't think Tina is very maternal (with Zsa Zsa her own daughter at least) so why is she giving Sonia advice on Chloe/Rebecca again Tina and Sonia as a couple don't work imo
It was good to see Ian and Jane back in last night's episode. After Cindy's lines about not wanting to be a mother, I initially thought that Ian and Jane might end up adopting Beth but I saw someone come up with what I think's a better idea - that they adopt Cindy so that Beth is their legal granddaughter and that they take care of them both. That would give Cindy more security and give Jane some happiness too.
I hate relationship merry-go-round type stories and we had two last night!
The Shabnam and Kush story was the more interesting because I find them both compelling characters and because their story actually moved forward. I still don't understand Shabnam's desperation to marry after such a short time though. I think the actor who plays Kush has proved himself to be a very good actor, especially in the scene where he broke down. I thought his crying was nearly on a par with Adam Woodyatt's!
Sonia and Tina's relationship just went full circle last night, which I find very boring (even though I like the couple).
I felt quite sorry for Martin as it seems he's lost everything. I'm sure he'll be living on the square and working on the fruit and veg stall before long though. Another character going full circle - but this one feels right somehow.
jane taking over too much with cindy's baby
So who paid Alfie for his day's work? Did Aleks pay him out if his own pocket?
And who was that boy in Sharon's house? I'm sure I recognised him from somewhere. :p:hmm:
I think he had been let out of the cupboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Tuesday's EastEnders with all the talk of incest seemed a bit like a grubby version of Brookside.
yes as aleks really likes alfie :pQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
denny got a hair cut but more needs to come off
jane will want to adopt beth
yes as aleks really likes alfie :pQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
denny got a hair cut but more needs to come off
jane will want to adopt beth
Exactly! But that job is a Council job and there is no way Alfie could have gone through the Council's bureaucratic recruitment process in ten minutes, been given a job (and a uniform) and placed on the pay roll.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Hardly! :p Incest has been ruled out now though, thankfully. I'm very intrigued as to who Sharon's real father is/was.Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Ughhh...hints about Alfie and the lottery. :thumbsdow I'm hoping he won't last long on the fruit and veg stall as that's Martin's rightful place.
I'm glad Masood brought up the unpalatable truth that Shabnam will likely be judged by many of her fellow Muslims for her relationship far more harshly than Kush will.
I'm guessing baby Beth won't be alone in the park for long. I'm a bit confused at the moment as to whether Cindy really wants her or not. She seems to prevaricate between loving her and being jealous of her bond with Jane, and not wanting to be her mother at all. I don't think she knows herself.
Cindy was managing and bonding fine with baby Beth before Ian and Jane took her away in holiday and now all of a sudden she don't want her
ian and jane care more for beth that they do for cindy
Go Roxy!:cheer:
The Essex girl done good. :D
alfie should be a pi or spy
I think it's more that they didn't realise Cindy was struggling. A bit insensitive of them, but to be fair she's hidden it well up until now.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Will Jane and Ian adopt Beth is the question? I'm positive the baby won't be leaving Albert Square whatever happens.
It seems to me the path that took Sharon to suspecting Pete is her father was too smooth, so I have my doubts that he was (despite him being my first choice). I'd like it if Sharon and Ian were siblings though.
Poor Dot was very depressed. It seems like she's given up - voluntarily. I suppose overwhelming guilt will do that to you. :(
I thoroughly enjoyed Roxy punching that bully! :D
Very compelling episode with some beautiful, nostalgic scenes between Sharon and Ian. They work so well together, and I'm convinced now that they're siblings. It was a bit too convenient that one of the samples was corrupted (I half expected Ian to admit he'd done it on purpose) and Lou couldn't stop an adoption she didn't know anything about. Pete would have been seeing Sharon's real mum secretly because he was cheating on Kathy (I think). That's how I hope things will play out anyway, but we're obviously going to follow a torturous route to get there... :wall: (I love it really!)
EE got in first with the child violence storyline (Corrie fans will know what I'm referring to)! I don't think anyone will complain that's it's unrealistic for Denny to be violent towards his mum. :p
WTF did Alfie give his job to Martin for? No, you didn't do a good thing Alfie because your first priority should be supporting your kids, not helping out an occasional mate! I hope Kat's got plenty to say about that (and for once I'm looking forward to hearing her screeching)!!! :D
Still, I'd much rather see Martin on the stall than listen to Alfie's cheeky chappy spiel. :thumbsdow
I'm growing to love Donna's acerbic wit more and more. :D
donna's bluntness in asking the tough questions and telling it how it is no punches pulled is refreshing and funny
Nice scenes with Sharon and Ian, an excellent script by Sarah Phelps.
That seemed such a staringly obvious explanation that the rest of that scene didn't really make much sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I totally agree! It didn't make sense, so the way I explained it to myself whilst watching was that Ian was trying to convince himself just as much as Sharon because he couldn't bear to think of his father cheating (which is why I said in my previous post that I half suspected that he'd sabotaged his DNA sample). Ian's in denial of the possibility and seems to have convinced Sharon too (for the time being).Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Do we know Sharons and Ians dates of births/Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
ages.I tried to find the info a while ago when
I first thought Pete might be the father-but
couldnt.Perhaps dont give info anymore as
it makes retcons easier.
I remember Ian Sharon&Michelle were all
teenagers and at school when EE started
and thought Michelle eldest??
The thing that made me think Pete not likely
was it would prob mean affair when married
to Kathy. With his previous wife yes- more
doubtful with Kathy.
As story progresses -Pete does seem.most
likely?
Ive been puzzling since photo shown!Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Counting from the left as u look down
at the pic - can u please say who are
numbers 3 6 &7
thanks v much
According to Wiki, Ian was 15 when EE started and Sharon was 14.Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
P.S. Michelle was also 15 when EE started.
3 was Debbie Wilkins who's boyfriend was Andy o'BrienQuote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
6 was Lou Beale (Ian's gran)
7 was Sue Osman (married to Ali) who used to run the caf.
(I am showing my age. :)
thanks very much for info. Dont rememberQuote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Debbie but did think it was Lou and probably
Sue.
Now Im not sure about No .8 can you help
please.
Thanks again
Kathy. (Ian's mum) Who will be rising from the dead soon. :)
Jessie Wallace amazing tonight. Very raw.
The only downside for me was Phil. A Tough nut? my eye! Sean Tully from Coronation Street is more menacing. In the real world he would get a good slap! Why does Billy know about Kaff?
Very believable scenes from Jessie tonight, I could really feel her pain. What were Mo, Stacey and Alfie thinking???!!!! :wall:
Alfie really is a little sh*t! I hate him more than I do Phil because the writers appear to think we love him and are on his side. Phil is a thug and a bully, but at least he's written as such. Alfie's supposed to be this well-meaning chancer who sometimes makes bad decisions, but all I see is a selfish narcissist who always makes everything about himself and goes to great lengths to portray himself in the best possible light. He only confessed about the money because he was caught out...
Did anyone catch what Ben was looking at on his phone? He was looking at a site called Crusadr, which I assume is EastEnders' version of Grindr (the gay hook-up app)! :rotfl: So much for Ben and Abi being serious... :nono:
Sharon needs to lay down the law and stop Phil treating her like dirt. He puts her down and undermines her at every turn. I know it's in character that he treats his women that way, but Sharon needs to show that she won't put up with it if the writers want us to take the couple seriously.
I really like that Max isn't scared of Phil so I hope he doesn't cave at the first hurdle. Phil's bluffing, but does Max know that?
Which gives credence to my suspicion that Ian's in denial about the possibility of his father having an affair. If it did happen, Kathy would have been pregnant or Ian a small baby when Peter cheated, which no child would be happy to discover.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Anyone else feel an episode was missing between Thursday and Friday's last week so much happened off screen for my liking
I hate the family comes first etc., motto of the Mitchells and why did Sharon take back the money that Phil gave out from Grant especially as Lola and Billy could do with it :angry: Charlie's father and mother land Phil in jail and Charlie is invited to the family lunch oh wait I forgot now he is family as he married Ronnie and slept with Roxy
I hope Cora and Stan get married for what time he has left
When did Alfie and Martin become such good mates, Alfie needs to put his own family first
I prefer Kat on her own away from Alfie, too much has gone on with them to salvage and repair their relationship imo
Sharon needs a hair cut and to get rid of those extensions
Abi is becoming my favourite character lately love her lines but she is deluded with Ben, he online looking at guys
Ann Mitchell was absoulately amazing. Heart breaking stuff, when she broke down. Timothy West and Ann are just a class act. Continuing drama at its best. I suppose it was worth all the pap we have had to put up with recently to have such a powerful episode as this.
Because it didn't actually come from Grant.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Still why did she take it back?Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
I was pleased when they said Ann MitchellQuote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
was joining EE but then disappointed at her
early storylines. Glad that this has improved
recently as she is a very good actress.
I wonder what will happen to the character
now. Dont think she will be assimilated into
Carters and not many Brannings left now
and they are mainly in-laws apart from Abi.
Shame she wasnt cast as Peggy Mitchell years
ago- tho probably not old enough to be Phils
mum and she probably preferred theatre
work at the time.!
Dupl
Because she thought it came from some dodgy dealing.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
She was happy to use dodgy cash to buy her bar, The AlbertQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Maybe Sharon is keeping all the cash for herself
I've just watched Tuesday's episode and found it pretty harrowing, what with Stan dying and Kat in such a mess. The Stan storyline is worse for me because I watched both my grandmother and grandfather die in quick succession a few years ago. It's a terrible thing to see a loved-one suffer like that. :(
I'm really glad that Max didn't give into Phil after all!
Not at all. I don't think she minds so much that the money's dodgy but that she has no idea what Phil did to get it. It's his lies that are making her angry - she said herself she doesn't want to be a gangster's moll. I think it's a case of degree of illegality that she's worried about. She has no idea if the money came from a fairly harmless scam or something really nasty.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Tonight's episode of two halves. Phil and Ben scenes yawn! Kat scenes however almost made my hard heart cry! Jessie Wallace at her best.
My heart was breaking for TommyQuote:
Originally Posted by Jessie Wallace
Phil the bully again but this time with his son Ben