Lucy Pargeter teases Cameron murder discoveries
Emmerdale airs another must-see moment next week as Chas and Debbie Dingle finally discover exactly what Cameron Murray is capable of.
Debbie (Charley Webb) is devastated when she gets her hands on Gennie Sharma's Dictaphone and hears a damning audio file which reveals that she was killed by Cameron.
When a distraught Debbie turns to Chas for help, they head straight to the police to report Cameron - but the dramas involving the serial killer aren't over yet…
Here, Lucy Pargeter - who plays Chas - reveals her character's reaction to the shocking developments.
How would you say Chas has been coping since Gennie's death?
"It's been hard for her. Not only has she had that to deal with, she's now got the fact that Cameron is with Debbie. So she's been betrayed by Cameron, she's been betrayed by Debbie and she's lost her sister so it's been pretty horrendous for her, to be quite honest with you."
Does Chas miss Cameron?
"Yeah, I think she does, but there's also hatred of him and for him. It's kind of explained a lot of things for her, but it's also brought on sadness because Gennie knew. Gennie knew everything and Chas has got massive regret for not making it up with her sister and believing her sister because she was right about him."
What are Chas's feelings towards Debbie at this point?
"Chas is very angry with Debbie and she is furious, but she's also kind of like, 'Tit for tat, I've done it to you, you've done it to me, I'm not going to come revengeful like you did by taking me hostage at gunpoint'. There's just no point and she's like, 'Okay, you're welcome to him'. But I think she's really, really hurt."
Next week, Debbie plays Gennie's Dictaphone recording which reveals that Cameron killed her, not the car crash. How does Chas react when Debbie comes over and says they need to talk?
"At first, Chas has got no idea about the Dictaphone - she's got no idea about anything. When Debbie says she needs to talk, Chas says, 'No, not now, haven't got time for you, couldn't give less of a care for you'. Then Debbie says, 'You couldn't care more about this thing ever', so she lets her in. Chas is quite prepared to just stand there, let Debbie say her piece and properly chuck her out again, but that's not what happens."
How does Chas feel when Debbie starts to show her this Dictaphone and what's on it?
"Chas's reaction is that it's not what Debbie says it is. Debbie is saying it's proof that Gennie was alive after the crash, but you don't automatically think, 'Yeah that's right, he killed her'. Chas looks for another explanation like Gennie was probably in pain, she was saying 'Don't move me, don't touch me, please don't hurt me any more than you have to'.
"It's not until Debbie brings up the fact that Cameron killed Carl that Chas starts to believe everything that Debbie's saying."
What is Chas's reaction when she realises that she didn't kill Carl? She's thought for nearly a year that she has.
"Yeah there is that, but then I think what takes over is that she doesn't know when Debbie found out. Chas thinks Debbie found out the night that he did it and she's been keeping it from her ever since. So she starts to think, 'How long have you known, Debbie? You let me go to prison'. She starts picking on Debbie and thinking that Debbie's known all along.
"Eventually she goes, 'Okay, I believe you, but how can you let me go through this? This is even more of a betrayal that you've kept it. You were protecting him and you knew he was a murderer. You know now he killed Gennie and you're still protecting him. We're going to have to do something about this. You've got no choice about it - we're going to the police'."
Unfortunately, the police say there's still not enough evidence against Cameron, so Debbie will need to have cameras in her house while she tries to get a confession. Does Chas think that's a good idea, given the danger involved?
"Yeah, Chas is all for it. If Debbie's in danger, then she's in danger. What she's kept from her and what Cameron's done is far more important. Debbie has betrayed her far too much, so basically Chas is prepared to let Debbie do whatever she has to do to get this out and to get a confession, because she's deleted the confession from the Dictaphone."
What are her feelings for Debbie at this point? Is she still angry with her or do they move on from that now?
"No, Chas is still furious with Debbie. They're not friends and I don't think they'll be friends for an awful long time. Debbie has kept something from her - a really important thing as Chas thought she'd killed Carl, and Debbie knew for however long that she hadn't done it and she could've put her out of her misery sooner."
Does Chas have any strong feelings on how Cameron should be dealt with?
"I think as Chas now knows he's a killer, she'd be more wary about how she dealt with it. The Carl thing is bad enough and to let her go to prison, but to kill her sister… if she had a gun in her hands she'd probably blow his brains out. She's determined to get in court and for him to see justice, really."
So Chas and Debbie aren't some sort of crack team together on this?
"No, Debbie has no choice. Chas is like, 'You're doing it. I don't care - you are doing it'. They're still rowing and there's no kind of camaraderie. So it would've been better if they were thick as thieves, but they're not!"
Are either of them scared of the consequences?
"I think Debbie is. I think she's scared about Jack and Sarah, and she's scared that it's come to this. She realises that she's actually going to lose him and she's going to have to try to frame him and get him to confess. So I think it's harder for Debbie because I think she thought she'd got a whole kind of family unit back and the love of her life, but no, Chas and Debbie are not going to see eye to eye over this."
Does Chas feel foolish for not realising what sort of man Cameron was?
"No, there's no kind of, 'Oh gosh, what a fool I've been'. I don't think anybody could see a serial killer if they were going out with them. All the clues were there, but you don't think that, do you?"
Does Chas want revenge on Cameron?
"I think revenge to her would be seeing him go down and to be punished. I think death or anything that she could do, or Cain could do, would be far too quick. She wants him to be seen as the person that he is by Brenda, by the village, by Debbie, by her family, by everybody and to get her name cleared as well."
Do you think there's any chance that Chas and Debbie can unite again, or is that a bit of a way off?
"A bit of a way off. I think the Gennie thing is going to stay around for a long time because even though she knew that Cameron was a murderer, she said she wanted to be with him and she had the choice to get in that car and to chase Gennie.
"Whether Cameron killed Gennie or not, Debbie was still in the car that chased her and kind of led to her death by having the crash as well. So I think there's an awful lot to forgive there. I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon."
Are you excited about what's in the pipeline?
"If I knew what the pipeline was then I'd be very excited, but we still don't know about the pipeline very much! But yes, what I hear in rumours I'm very excited about."