Week 45

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I doubt he'd have a relapse. The viewers want to see Steven get better not more messed up. Since when has a dangerous person got out of setioning in real life unless they are better?[/QUOTE]

Michael Stone killed Lin and Megan Russell after having been imprisoned several times for violent attacks, Peter Bryan, a cannbal killed 3 people and ate body parts of his last 2 victims after being released from a secure mental unit. The Virginia Tech campus killer Cho Seung-hui shot over 30 people after having spent time in a psychiatric institute. Schizophrenic Christopher Clunis stabbed musician Jonathan Zito, 27, at a London Underground station in 1992.
Jason Mitchell, 25, beheaded his father Robert and strangled pensioners Arthur and Shirley Williams in Bramford in Suffolk in 1994. After being arrested Mitchell was alleged to have sung It's a Wonderful Life in his police cell. In 1996 Darren Carr, 26, was jailed for the manslaughter of Susan Hearmon and her daughters Kylie, six, and Anne, four, after he set fire to their house in Abingdon in Oxfordshire. Carr had been detained in a psychiatric hospital before the killing but doctors decided he could be discharged. There are numerous more examples I could mention but that would take up too much space. Unfortunately, there will always be mentally ill people around that get released early from clinics, prisons etc. due to human error.

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Originally Posted by pinkbanana

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Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes

He didn't have any alternative though. He rightly shouted at Steven in the car but then Steven had a mental breakdown and it wasn't safe to just leave him there in the state he was in. I understand that she's being a loyal friend but evenJane urged Ianto section Steven at first. Besides Lucy lied to the police to protect him and Ian didn't want her getting into trouble and anyway I doubt prison would do Steven much good - if anything it would make him worse. I suppose discharged patients are not alloed to remain in the clinic or Steven could have stayed there a bit longer and we could have had some scenes seeing how he coped there - that way we are happy because Steven's on screen and Ianand Jane get some space too.

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He had no choice?! :eek: Erm, ofcourse he did!

Ian should have got the police involved straight away, if Steven was mentally unstable, then they would have assessed him and sectioned him anyway, rather than putting him in prison. That way he would have got all the help he required, rather than staying at some place for just a couple of weeks - thats going to do him some real good, isnt it! :rolleyes:

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There are always choices !!!!!! Ian made a bad one in my opinion. He should have done what PB said report it to the cops and ignore Lucy's pleas, cos the kid would have gotten help, if the police assess him as unstable they would have sectioned him to the mental health ward of the prison. Steven is a very very disturbed individual and what Ian did was WRONG, he should have let the police deal with Steven. I am sorry Lizzie but this kid deserves to be LOCKED UP and I have NO SYMPATHY for him.
I think Peridta also said mental health patients discharged too soon ( the ones who have been charged with criminal activities ) quite a few of them repeat their crimes cos they are in danger of themselves and others.
I for one would rather NOT see Steven back on the square, cos it is going to get spread all over the square that he SHOT JANE and kept Ian hostage for 2-3 weeks,, I am not sure I would want to be Steven. But that is just how I see it,,, :searchme:

Steven ended up getting treatment in the end, it probably does not matter now how he got into the clinic. I just think that he has not been there long enough to deal with all the issues, I also think that the whole family should have got group conselling before Steven walks the streets of Walford again. But then it would not make good telly, would it. :)

I'm surprised there are cases like that in real life but hopefully they are rare.

If he had been a psychopath and f he had diliberately shot Jane I would agree he deserves to rot in jail but he tried to kill himself and the shooting of Jane was totally accidental. Of course different people read situations in different ways and each to their own opinion but in Steven's case I am hopeful and I am sure he can redeem himself. I can't believe he is evil. He loves his brother and sister despite his mind games hurting them and he is close to Pat. I can't pretend I wouldn't have done exactly what Ian and Lucy did.

I still think that they should have him getting better and redeeming himself - even though there are mistaken discharges, doing this with Steven would send out a totally negative message and it would be an utter waste of Aaron's exceptional acting too. I can't want till Thursday. I want more Steven.

What I still can't understand is how the police could possibly have swallowed the story Lucy told them. Ian goes missing for a week, then suddenly the whole family are on the top of a condemned block of flats and a "passer-by" just happens to shoot Jane and run off. Do me a favour. Please!:thumbsdow

I know! I just don't get that :p Why would a mugger chase them all the way up a block of flats and then shoot Jane :rolleyes: But then it's Eastenders, it doesn't have to make sense :lol:

Well we all know what Walford police are like. Anyway it is only a soap.

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Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes

Well we all know what Walford police are like. Anyway it is only a soap.

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Dunno if it is " only a soap" to some people LOL