That is what I was thinking last night.. how could someone send the email and then Ian got a knock on the door with the package.. has to be at least 2 involved.. maybe lucy and Steven... she is just playing along to freak ian out
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my moneys on steven too. i heard he was coming back at the beining of the year because i remember arguing with my mum about how old he is as they said hed be 18-19 now but im sure hes younger like 16. anyway i think stephen.deffenatly and as for jane being shoot i think if it is stephen itll be accidently or itll be by bobby after finding it in lucys wardrobe(is that still there?)
well we all know that stevens a loose cannon, remember before he left years ago he was sending laura (I think it was at the time ) poison pen letters, so imagine what hes like now years later
I dont know why but it keeps cropping up in my mind. Janes the stalker and the gun that Lucy has is how Jane gets shot???
why would jane stalk ian and lucy?
plus there is the facts that she does get shot, she is at the computer when e-mails arrive and the perfume gets delivered, and she was at the other side of the cafe when the photo was hand delivered?
I think it is Steven but he is not working alone. If it is him I hope he stays in the show as it gives Pat some REAL family
Perhaps it's Simon? :confused:
something thats bothering me though is if it is steven, since he has been living with simon in NZ, if he had left surely pat would have known and brought it up in conv to ian, after all nothing else stays secret for long in the square........unless.............................m aybe he's working with PAT lol
Do we find out when ian does? because ian finds out this week then gets kidnapped or whatever it is and then jane gets shot doesnt she. whoever it is must be loaded because theyre spending alot of money on delvieries and that really!
It's Reg Cox's corpse with a crossbow.
so who is "cindy" because at the end of this episode it looked like stephen but when ian spoke i swear he said something like john
my subtitles were on he said no it cant be
I thought that jane was to be shot before the identity of " cindy" was uncovered
so it must be stephen then, hes about the right age...
What a silly ending considering none of us knows who it is, other than it could be and probably is Stephen. The least Ian could have done was said his name to verify it. Other than that the episode was good I enjoyed it.
i agree we need verification, im sure its stephen though
Yeah I agree, my husband asked why his hair colour had changed lol!
it would have been a better ending if the boy just looked at him and said dad, although maybe we arent supposed to know for sure who it is
Personally I don't think any verification was needed at the end of this episode and I think EE have played a blinder in order to build up the suspense into next week and the weeks that follow where it will all be revealed. EE's slogan used to be "Everyones talking about it", lol, and even after we have seen who it is, everyone is still going "Who is it?" lol! Well done EE!
I don't agree with you there, they showed some oink with spots and we are meant to know who they are??? Young peeps into enders would not even have a blues clue who they were if they did not watch it since the 80/early 90's
From what I read in digital spy, Jane is initially hostile towards Steven - rejecting his offer to help her in the cafe, brushing him off onto Kevin, rebuffing his attempt to comfort her next thursday biut next Friday when Steven alone is supposedly there for her though we know different, she cries on his shoulder. What i am wondering is, why is she initally hostile towards him? I mean surely she can't suspect though we know that he is responsible for Ian's disappearance and if she did she would tell the police, not cry on his shoulder.
will we ever find out where ian has gone?
Is he still in the flat?
I'm sure we will find out eventually.
I assume Ian's in that flat and his breakfast, lunch and dinner are those cream crackers!
Mmm I suppose. Surely even Steven wouldn't have killed him?
I thought at first Steven was holding him hostage but then I wondered why he would come back to Walford leaving Ian alone in that flat. I mean even if the doors were locked and bolted Ian could break a window and get out couldn't he?
On the other hand they wouldn't have Steven getting away with killing Ian so if he is indeed to be a long term charecter he wouldn't have killed him. Yet if Ian is alive why hasn't he ontacted Jane or the police? Former stepson or not, surely there is a line and Steven has crossed it?
A few pics - Jane in hospital - scroll down to the bottom of the page
Lucy and Ian?
Steven and Ian!!
thanks for sharing those.....its gonna be gripping i cant wait
Good God.
Well if Jane is the one to be shot - accidentally I suppose - then I think Steven oes to prison bt I'm confused as I heard the actor is staying long term and yet there is no way back for Steven from such disgrace.
Steven takes the twins out of school and takes them joy riding with Jane's car. Jane goes mad and tells Steven to leave and keep away from his brother and sister - later that night Lucy goes missing. Steven takes her to the flat were he is keeping Ian hostage and Lucy is over the moon to be reunited with her dad - she is later shocked when Steven pulls out a gun on them both. Lucy texts Jane who rushes to the flat and punches Steven as she bursts in. The gun drops and as Ian and Lucy both dive for it - it goes off. Who has been shot and will they survive?
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Odd as All About Soap says Steven shoots her but this seems to suggest either Lucy/Ian do.:hmm:
I thought Steven only pulled the gun out on them when Ian tried to ring the police. In a hostage situation - I may be wrong - but the last thing you do is call the police. This is because the captor either acts on the fear of being cornered and caught or on the belief that the person he or she is holding captive is dangerous. If a person locks you in a room and holds you captive, the best thing to do is to be submissive. In this case Ian (and Lucy) should do whatever Steven tells them to - surrender their mobiles to him, put their hands up and turn round slowly, or whatever. If the captive obeys the captor, does not become angry and makes no atte,pt to become a danger to the captor by ringing the police or trying to escape, there is a slim chance the captor will spare their life. If the captive is a danger to the captor then the captor would kill them or attempt to kill them anyway.
Look at the way in which lisa dealt with the situation when after Sharon left him Phil went mad and took Louise. Mark and pauline were angry and wantedto call the police but Lisa was gentle and patient with Phil and he gave her bck Louise. It is a real shame people in EastEnders do not think.
Thanks for the spoilers by the way. I think its a shame if they keep Aaron only for this small storyline - I mean it is such a waste. He has real acting potential.
is it me or do some people think about these sort of things to much
its like the real life miss marple
Does anyone know what happens to Steven at the end of next week then?
I do want him to pay some kind of penance for what hehas done to Ian. As Jane is the one to be injured when the gun accidentaly goes off I assumed Steven wen to psychiatric prison but it can't be if Aaron has signed a 6 month contract. I suppose as he didn't mean/intend to kill anyone and the gunshot was ccidental and f he repents, he could just about get away with an offical police warning which would also square with the actor staying long term.
i think this storyline is going to drag on months :crying: :crying: :crying:
ian starts telling the emergancy service about what happened at the flat before he can tell them that steven was the gunman lucy comes up with a story and tells the police that a mugger wanted ian's wallet and shot jane in the struggle! lucy starts off with the lie and ian is forced to go along with it!
anyway to cut a long story short ian puts steven in a private psychiatric clinic! source: 'whats on tv' magazine
I'm glad. I didn't want him to go to prison. He's ill not evil and he would have a complete mental breakdown in prison. Despite feeling angry with him for the chaos he has caused I was sorry for him when he struggled to tell Lucy what was going on tonight.