Good Point I think it's turning into an obsession for them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Humphries
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Good Point I think it's turning into an obsession for them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Humphries
Its just so so awful :crying: :thumbsdow
I remember Kathy's husband wanting to adopt Ben, but I can't remember if he actually went through with it. I'm not sure if Ben would be safe with Phil. He wants to be a good father, but he can't help his temper, and sometimes that gets the better of him. He needs to go to anger management and get a grip on those feelings. The Mitchells are like the mafia, one false move and your out. You have to be willing to follow a certain code. It's not easy to just be yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Humphries
Although I feel Ian is quite controlling also. He has certain exceptations for his children, which he feels they have to meet. Very different from the ones Phil has. I think Ben would probably be more successful living with Ian. Peter is quite a nice sensible boy. If Ben was with Phil he'd just expect him to take over the family businesses, rather than building anything for himself. And I don't think that's the best thing.
I think the adoption did go through.
im in two minds here... one it would be good to see phil with a child it brings out his sensative side and shows a weakeness, but dare we risk it at loosing a popular character, she said after she leaves footballers wives she'd seriosuly consider returning, and FW is getting diare these days so it could happen sooner rather than later...
i think ben was adopted to,but they can get round that by having kathy and husband killed together,maybe bens one of them evil kids who killed his parents and now looking to come to walford and kill the rest of his family,i can only dream,or if the husband kills kathy in a drunken rage the husband would go to prison then ,
You could be right Callum. Something must happen to the husband because it was him who wanted to adopt Ben and he wouldn't let him go back to Phil.
This sounds good... shame she's off-screen though..
Yeah. But they can't do anything about it because Gillian didn't want to return so soon.
is this confirmation or a rumour? as they cant kill of a walford legend!
Well the BBC haven't confirmed it, but it does have a quote from Gillian about it I think - unless she's just heard the same rumour and assumed it's true.Quote:
Originally Posted by bondboffin
I'm sure Den will be very happy to hear that.Quote:
as they cant kill of a walford legend!
http://metro.co.uk/2015/02/17/easten...-back-5067671/
Is Kathy alive?
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EE fans are having a nervous breakdown speculating that Kathy's about to rise from the dead but I have my doubts.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I wouldn't be against her returning and think they could find a way if they really wanted, but I think it'd completely overshadow the Lucy reveal (the speculation alone is already threatening to do that).
I think Phil's secret's more likely something to do with Peggy. She was back in Albert Square for a reason last night (and I don't think she flew all that way just to confront Dot).
Maybe Phil or Peggy have stumbled across evidence that Kathy might still be alive? That would provide plenty of future dramatic opportunities and would tantalise fans.
Neither Billy nor Peggy seemed to want Phil to tell Ian. I can't imagine they'd have reacted like that if the news was that Kathy was definitely alive and well.
Hopefully we'll find out tonight.
Interesing stuff on Wiki:
"After her final departure, numerous rumours circulated in the British press predicting the character's return to the soap. In 2005 it was reported that EastEnders producers were attempting to lure Gillian Taylforth back with the offer of a £200,000 a year pay cheque. Gillian said: "I've always wanted to go back because I love EastEnders — I have great friends in the cast and always enjoyed working with Steve McFadden (Phil Mitchell)."
However, in January 2006 it was announced that the character was being killed off-screen in a storyline to facilitate the return of her young son Ben to his father Phil Mitchell. Taylforth has commented: "I was a bit upset at first because it was 13 years of my life and I didn't like the thought of being killed off. I thought she might come back to see Ian and have some illness. But that's the way it goes." In 2010, Taylforth said that she wished that Kathy could come back from the dead and that it was a mistake to kill her off. Earlier that year executive producer Diederick Santer revealed that he would like to have brought back Kathy from the dead but vowed not to revive deceased characters. Taylforth reiterated her desire to return to EastEnders in 2013 and that she heard a writer in 2011 saying that producers wanted her to return and asked her if she could think of a way to bring Kathy back. She revealed that producer John Yorke told her that killing off Kathy was one of the biggest mistake they've ever made", and the writer who had decided to kill off Kathy regretted it afterwards, though said it was a "good idea at the time". EastEnders spokespeople stated there were currently no plans for Taylforth to return and that some of the producers who had said they wanted Kathy to return had since left. In 2014, Taylforth revealed that she doubts whether Kathy is really dead and said that many EastEnders viewers have written with proposed storylines on how she could make a return to the show."
Ben was adopted by Kathy's new husband in South Africa and she and adoptive dad died in a car crash according to the storyline at the time. The first time a character came back from the dead (that I remember) was Bobby Ewing in Dallas and I don't think that worked for most viewers, just nice to see handsome Bobby back on the screen :p I hope this rumour will stay a rumour and not become reality
And let's not forget Den's resurrection. That went well. :D
billy said keep the past dead and buried, peggy mentioned how will sharon react and phil has to talk to ian, phil to tell ian that max killed lucy payback for taking his garage maybe or could dennis rickman be returning another dead man rising up :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Kathy looked much younger now that Phil and Ian :p
Article on Kathy's return from the BBC:
30 years to the day EastEnders was first broadcast, one of EastEnders true icons, Kathy Beale returned to the show in a LIVE scene in tonight’s (19/02/2015) episode.
Last seen in 2000 before returning to South Africa, viewers believed that Kathy was killed in a car crash. However when Kathy comes home to Walford later this year, viewers will learn where Kathy has been and why she has stayed away so long…
Played by Gillian Taylforth, Kathy appeared in the very first episode of EastEnders on the 19th February 1985. As one of the original cast, Gillian soon found herself at the heart of some of the soaps most memorable episodes, creating a character that has never been forgotten in EastEnders history. Storylines included her relationship and subsequent turbulent marriage to Phil Mitchell and the rape of Kathy by Wilmott Brown.
Kathy’s return has been shrouded in secrecy. To keep her return under wraps the scenes were shot live on location to prevent her being seen prior to her episode transmitting.
Talking about her return to EastEnders, Gillian said “When Dominic approached me with his plan, I was so shocked I got into my car and burst into tears! ‘Kathy’ has always been so close to my heart and it’s absolutely wonderful to be returning to the show and reprising the role”
Dominic Treadwell-Collins, Executive Producer said “I have always made my feelings on Kathy Beale and Gillian Taylforth very clear – she is part of EastEnders history, mother to Ian and Ben and one of the most important and iconic television characters on British television. Six months ago, we set ourselves the challenge of bringing Kathy back to the Square in a credible way. And I believe we have succeeded. Viewers will have to keep watching to find out exactly why Kathy ‘died’, where she has been all these years and why she now wants to come home to Albert Square. This is only the beginning of one of the most earth-shattering storylines EastEnders has ever seen…”
Adam Woodyatt who plays Gillian’s on screen son adds “I’m thrilled, I couldn’t be happier. I’ve finally got my mum back! I’ve been keeping this secret for so long and now I just can’t wait to work with her again.”
It says "when Kathy comes home to Walford later this year", so it sounds like she'll be back for good. It's nice that Gillian Taylforth is so happy to be reprising the role of Kathy.
I'm warming to the idea more and more. I can't wait to hear what explanation they come up with and whether Phil knew all along or has just found out.
She is in Hollyoaks too coming and going :p Gillian will be very busyQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Ian and Sharon's talk of being orphans and all alone now means more that Ian's mother is alive and back
That was a very big clue that the rumours were correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
ben will be more messed up now gillian left hollyoaks for her family more for enders more like she lied
I think its too early to say. Ben is troubled and whilst at the beginning he will but I think in time - given how Kathy is when she returns - she may be good for him. I have never seen Kathy so I am not sure what her personality is but if she raised Ian - she can't do worse than Phil because thats where Ben went wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
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That's what makes Kathy playing dead so unbelievable. Kathy hated Phil and knew that he'd destroy sensitive Ben and she'd never have willingly left him with Phil given their history. That's why there needs to be a really well-thought out explanation to make her disappearance credible. Simply saying she went into witness protection say won't cut it as she'd have taken Ben with her. Also she would have at the very least contacted Ben and Ian in all the years she's been gone unless she was physically unable to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
I think she needs to have been locked away in prison or something to explain her complete silence. Maybe she was kidnapped?
I seem to remember Ben actually living with Ian when he first arrived in England .. Phil bullied Ian to have Ben live with him
Good memory! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Yes, I think Ian was desperate to keep Ben from Phil but the latter wasn't going to allow that to happen...
pirates had her and forced botox into her :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
:rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Who will be the next to return from the dead. Nick, Arfur "He loved this place" Fowler Den again, Dennis Plank.
Sad they cannot get a living character to come back for any family funerals. Shelle
They could try getting Frank Butcher back. Now that would be a real feat.
F..
Well he could come back with a new head like so many others before him.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
All they would need is the revolving or should that be revolting bow-tie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12BIbKkpovs
EastEnders boss Dominic Treadwell-Collins has shared some good news with fans who are eagerly awaiting Kathy Beale's return - her next on-screen appearance has already been filmed.
Gillian Taylforth made a shock comeback as Kathy in the show's Live Week in February, and she has since been back on set to film another scene as the popular character.
Show chiefs had previously revealed that Kathy is making a full-time return later in the year, but all further details were kept well under wraps.
Treadwell-Collins told Radio Times: "We've storylined her return properly. You'll see a flash of Kathy again fairly soon and then boom! She's already filmed her next little tease."
Kathy's return was one of the biggest surprises of EastEnders' 30th anniversary week. Viewers saw her arrive in a black cab for a meeting with her ex-husband Phil Mitchell on the banks of the Thames, nine years after she had supposedly been killed in an off-screen car accident.
Kathy told Phil that she was keen to return home to Walford to reunite with her family, but he ordered her not to as he felt it would be too much for her sons Ian and Ben to cope with.
Speaking in February, Taylforth commented: "When Dominic approached me with his plan, I was so shocked I got into my car and burst into tears! 'Kathy' has always been so close to my heart and it's absolutely wonderful to be returning to the show and reprising the role."
Sounds like a porn film!:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Let's hope it's better acted! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
I wouldn't know, Dazzle, I've never seen one....:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Wonder u didnt post an icon with an halo then.!Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman