Emmerdale Spoilers 24th - 28th August 2015

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Plus-Debbie wouldn't wait and let her dad take the blame, no way!

And very unlikely that James would protect Pete on this? Or is Pete still his golden boy - even after killing his brother??

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I think Debbie would wait. I expect Cain would just be under suspicion whilst the police make further enquiries and wait for results from forensics. I think Debble would be very scared that Pete could kill her if she made the wrong move and went to the police so soon. You know how many bad boys she's had close to her in life (Cain, Ross, Cameron,...) and seen a lot of bad stuff over the years, so she's experienced enough to know to just get Pete to stay away from her for now.

I think James would protect Pete over this, for a while anyway. He is his eldest son (usually the golden boy, as you wrote, mariba) and wouldn't want to lose another of his sons, at least not in such a short space of time anyway. If you remember, it was Pete who saved James' life when Emma made the loaded pallet fall onto James and nearly killed him in January 2015, so I suppose James still owes Pete a big favour for saving his life. James may just wait for the police to prove that Pete was involved with Ross' death (IF he is dead, only one of several possible theories for now, of course) as I expect the Barton family (what remains of it) will stay silent about Pete, even though they disown him and presumably don't have him living or working at the farm for at least the time being. It was an accident initially during an angry fight, but the final kicking by Pete went beyond accident maybe and there may have been a murderous intent behind this even if Pete hadn't meant for this when the fight began?

Even worse than accidentally killing him+further kicking him, is that he was outside the hospital and could have easily called for help. But he didn't. That makes Pete a monster.

But-I don't like this theory. Ross HAS TO BE ALIVE!

Even worse than accidentally killing him+further kicking him, is that he was outside the hospital and could have easily called for help. But he didn't. That makes Pete a monster.

But-I don't like this theory. Ross HAS TO BE ALIVE!

Here is some more spoiler info which may be useful to help explain how the Emmerdale storyline might run for August 24th-28th when we get to see these episodes.

dalesfan wrote yesterday on the Ross Barton thread:
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Michael Parr signed a new 1 year contract last year. Reportedly August. So yes it would be up now. And Seeing as he has left the show now the timing does sound about right. They wrapped the Summer Fate stuff early July. This would mean he still had a few weeks left in his contract? Now I'm not really sure how it all works. BUT he was still seen at the studios in these last few weeks. This is why people still think it doesn't add up. If they have Killed Ross then he wouldn't be needed at the studios as there would be nothing for him to film. Unless he isn't really dead comes back or is found. Has some pretty nasty injuries and then leaves the show.
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Telly Watcher wrote yesterday on the Ross Barton thread:
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Mike Parr joined Emmerdale as Ross during 2013 and appeared first on July 9th as an unknown criminal character when he car-jacked Laurel in town. This appearance was presumably a screen-test which he was successful in as he eventually became a regular Emmerdale character on October 24th. In this episode, he showed up at Butlers Farm with a gunshot wound from a dodgy deal which had backfired and which Cain, being smart, had previously turned down and given to him, saying it was an easy job. It was at the farm that Moira realised that he was her dead husbands's brother's son named Ross, so she allowed him to stay. The other Barton brothers moved into the farm afterwards.

It sounds like Mike Parr's initial regular Emmerdale contract ran to August 2014 and was renewed to expire by August 2015. This means that he may now be out of contract and free from Emmerdale.
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I've thought further now on this and realised that the regular Emmerdale contracts for the other Bartons should also have expired around now, that's for James, Finn, Pete and Emma.

Anthony Quinlan (Pete) and Joe Gill (Finn) were announced as cast members on 5/11/13 and both appeared on TV during the episode for December 6th 2013.

Bill Ward (James) was announced as a cast member on 29/09/13 and appeared on TV during the episode for October 25th 2013.

Gillian Kearney (Emma) was announced as a cast member on 11/08/14 and appeared on TV during the episode for January 2nd 2015.

If their contracts were like Ross', and starting in August, then their regular contracts would have been due for renewal after 1 year and should also have expired around August 2015? Emma joined the Emmerdale cast around August 2014, so her 1 year contract should also have expired around August 2015?

This could mean that all of the Bartons may have completed filming now and are up for leaving Emmerdale when the episodes already filmed with them in get shown up to about October 2015? I wonder if this whole-family Barton clear-out is amongst what Kate Oates has planned as part of the 'cast cull' we've been told to expect in the news?

So what could happen by October 2015?

Maybe Pete gets written out by going to prison for a long time for murdering Ross?

Maybe James gets written out by being killed by 'dangerous' Emma?

Perhaps Emma kills James and herself at the same time or she goes to prison or just leaves Emmerdale?

Now that Val is gone and Finn no longer has a surrogate mother, maybe he is left as the surviving/free Barton member who leaves the village to go somewhere else by October 2015. He does have a university degree so I suppose he could finally use that and get a proper career somewhere else away from Emmerdale? Finn did plan to go to Tokyo for a new life during 2014 but didn't have the money to go, that's when he asked Declan for a job reference for another job somewhere (not sure where, UK?) but didn't get it because it was a poor reference.

All of this is hypothetical, of course, I'm only suggesting these things as there are completed filmed episodes waiting to be shown on TV up to October 2015 and a lot like this could happen in such a long time as this is soapland.

This contract issue for the Barton family could explain a lot about why the real Ross storyline could be that Ross has really been killed off by Pete and that Mike Parr has really left Emmerdale (to be followed by the other cast members of the Barton family?).

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Barton

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ale_characters

I'm not reading any more speculation.
I really don't care about their contracts-or even if Ross/Mike leaves/or has already left(as they are always filming few weeks ahead). The only thing that does matter to me, is that Ross would leave the village alive by his own choice, not in a box. That would leave the door open for him(maybe)to return one day. Or not. But would be more comforting to know that there's still that possibility.
Emmerdale village would be even more duller if Bartons disappeared too!

I must say Corrie is so much more enjoyable at the moment..

I'm not reading any more speculation.
I really don't care about their contracts-or even if Ross/Mike leaves/or has already left(as they are always filming few weeks ahead). The only thing that does matter to me, is that Ross would leave the village alive by his own choice, not in a box. That would leave the door open for him(maybe)to return one day. Or not. But would be more comforting to know that there's still that possibility.
Emmerdale village would be even more duller if Bartons disappeared too!

I must say Corrie is so much more enjoyable at the moment..

I don't believe that the body Will be Ross

Emmerdale's Debbie Dingle will be left horrified later this month when her husband Pete Barton confesses to killing his brother Ross.

Fans were left stunned when Ross met an untimely end in a huge showdown with Pete (Anthony Quinlan) that went horribly wrong.

Upcoming episodes will see the rest of the Barton family become worried over Ross's disappearance, realising that all is not right.

Ross's mother Emma will lead the efforts to solve the mystery, which leads to the police agreeing to investigate.

As the Bartons prepare for the worst, the latest developments leave Pete crippled with fear as he knows the discovery of Ross's body will bring the police to his door.

With the net closing in, a panic-stricken Pete decides to tell Debbie (Charley Webb) everything and confesses to killing Ross, telling her that he suffered a serious head injury amid their fight.
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Pete tells Debbie everything
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Debbie is horrified by Pete's confession
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Debbie is horrified by Pete's confession

A disgusted Debbie immediately compares Pete to her dangerous killer ex Cameron Murray, before demanding that they go and find Ross's body.

After Debbie yells at Pete to stay away from her, James soon spots her running down the street in a panic. Is he about to learn the truth as well?
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Debbie tells Pete he reminds her of Cameron, and that he should stay away
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Debbie tells Pete he reminds her of Cameron
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A furious Debbie demands that Pete shows her where Ross's body is
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Debbie wants to find Ross's body

Emmerdale airs these scenes on Monday, August 24 and in an hour-long episode on Tuesday, August 25 at 7pm on ITV.


Read more: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s1...#ixzz3iwmuK2NM

Daily Star, August 16th 2015

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Emmerdale: Secret's too much for Debs

PETE Barton admits killing his brother Ross – leaving his new wife Debbie terrified.

With the village still in shock after the helicopter crash, guilty Pete struggles to keep what he did a secret.

And with his mum Emma determined to track Ross down, poor Pete doesn’t know what to do. Emma realises something is wrong when she discovers her missing son’s phone and wallet. Suspecting Debbie has something to do with his disappearance she confronts her cheating daughter-in-law and demands answers.

Stressed-out Debbie goes to see her dad Cain who reveals he left Ross at the top of a cliff to stop him ruining her wedding.

She pleads with him to tell Emma what happened, not realising Pete is behind his disappearance.

Emma calls the police and is shocked when they arrive to tell her they’ve found a body and think it might be Ross.

An Emmerdale insider said “Pete is beside himself with guilt and worry”.

As Emma and former husband James go to identify the corpse, Pete breaks down and tells Debbie everything.

An Emmerdale insider said: “Debbie can’t believe what she is hearing. She went through so much at the hands of her serial killer ex-lover Cameron Murray and is terrified Pete is just like him.

“She didn’t realise what Cameron was like until it was too late.

“Pete is beside himself with guilt and worry and needed to tell someone. He is dreading his parents going to the morgue as he is convinced it will be Ross’ body lying there. Pete knows what he did and has to face up to it.”
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Source: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz-t...-soap-spoliers


"as he is convinced it will be Ross’ body lying there". Sounds like the body in the morgue isn't Ross?

I think Ross is dead though. If the body in the morgue isn't Ross we'll just be kept wondering after the episode on Monday 24th whether Ross did somehow survive and come out the woods alive. Keeps the viewing figures up to do this of course.

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Daily Star, August 16th 2015

Emma calls the police and is shocked when they arrive to tell her they’ve found a body and think it might be Ross.

Pete is beside himself with guilt and worry and needed to tell someone. He is dreading his parents going to the morgue as he is convinced it will be Ross’ body lying there.

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Telly Watcher wrote on 16-08-15:
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Daily Star, August 16th 2015

Emma calls the police and is shocked when they arrive to tell her they’ve found a body and think it might be Ross.
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Emma calls the police on Friday 21st. It sounds as if they don't visit her first at the farm to record a description of Ross' clothes and appearance and get a photo of him to use. Instead, the police have already found a body by the time they arrive at the farm so they assume it's Ross as no-one else has presumably been reported as missing from Emmerdale. This would mean that the body at the mortuary could be anyone found anywhere in Emmerdale.

When James and Emma go to the mortuary on Monday 24th to check the body, it is still uncertain and unclear from the spoilers available for now whether it is Ross or not, but some spoilers hint that the body is not Ross, see spoilers below.

Perdita posted on 13-08-15
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Pete is terrified as he watches James and Emma head off to identify the body and he tells Finn to prepare himself for the worst. Not realising what has gone on at the mortuary, Pete drops a bombshell.
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Telly Watcher wrote on 16-08-15:
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Daily Star, August 16th 2015

Pete is beside himself with guilt and worry and needed to tell someone. He is dreading his parents going to the morgue as he is convinced it will be Ross’ body lying there."
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When James gets back to the village, Debbie runs into him.

Perdita posted on 16-08-15
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With the net closing in, a panic-stricken Pete decides to tell Debbie (Charley Webb) everything and confesses to killing Ross, telling her that he suffered a serious head injury amid their fight.

A disgusted Debbie immediately compares Pete to her dangerous killer ex Cameron Murray, before demanding that they go and find Ross's body.

After Debbie yells at Pete to stay away from her, James soon spots her running down the street in a panic.'
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Debbie must tell James some or all of what Pete has just told her because other spoilers have said this.

Presumably, James will then tell Debbie about the body he and Emma have just seen in the mortuary.

If it's Ross, then the police should already suspect Cain because this is what Emma suspected from what Debbie told her earlier before Emma called the police.

If it isn't Ross (and this is what I think is now more likely because it seems as if the police weren't given a description and photo of Ross before they found the body), I expect that James and Debbie will put pressure on Pete to go to the woods with them to where Pete dumped Ross' body. When he goes (or when they go), then either 1) Ross is there dead and they all have an unburied body to deal with, or 2) there's no body there and they won't know if someone has found Ross dead or alive and taken him away, or 3) Ross regained consciousness after Pete left him for dead and Ross then left the woods by himself and disappeared.

When Pete/James/Debbie go to the woods, it will by then be about two weeks after the fight at the hospital, so this would be far too long for even a fit healthy person to survive without water, food and proper shelter alone in the woods, so it is not likely that they could find an injured Ross still there alive in the woods. He either has to be found dead there, or the dead body taken away, or Ross walked away/got rescued alive (with possible memory loss, turns up again one day in Emmerdale 2016?).

There hasn't been any news of Mike Parr (Ross) having a new contract with Emmerdale (present one expired around August 2015) and his Twitter post on August 14th states that he is starting a new job in London involving rehearsals. (I reckon that Mike Parr is unlikely to lie to his fans on Twitter or any other medium and he is more likely to remain silent about something confidential than to lie, so I think we can assume that the job in London is real, the question is how long is it for?)

Anthony Quinlan (Pete) has an existing Emmerdale contract which was announced on December 7th 2014 (for 1 year), so he could still be in Emmerdale TV episodes shown until about February 2016 even without a renewed contract from December 2015.

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Anthony Quinlan signs new Emmerdale contract
Sunday, 7th December 2014

Anthony Quinlan has signed a new lucrative Emmerdale contract that will keep him in the village for at least another 12 months.
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Source: http://www.soapsquawk.co.uk/news/ant...e-contract.php


As an aside, other new contracts (these are usually for 1 year) recently include:

John Bowe (Lawrence), announced July 21st 2015 (digitalspy.co.uk)

Pasha Bocarie (Rakesh), announced June 14th 2015 (digitalspy.co.uk)

Chris Bisson (Jai), announced June 11th 2015 (digitalspy.co.uk)

Gemma Atkinson (Carly), announced March 7th 2015 (express.co.uk)

Roxy Shahidi (Leyla), announced January 6th 2015 (unrealitytv.co.uk)

Sources: (As shown)

Confirmed characters leaving Emmerdale as at July 29th 2015 include:

Charlie Hardwick (Val), leaving August 2015

Gemma Oaten (Rachel), leaving Summer 2015

Natalie Anderson (Alicia), leaving 2015

Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/si...d-leavers.html

The list is awaiting update, but Mike Parr is not yet listed as leaving Emmerdale as at July 29th 2015.

Airs Monday, Aug 24 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV

Pete panics as James and Emma set off to identify Ross's body. He tells Finn that he should prepare himself for the worst. James and Emma try to phone Pete after seeing the body but he doesn't answer his phone.

Pete is crippled with fear as he expects the police to come calling at any moment. This drives him to make a confession as he tells Debbie that he killed Ross.

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Emma and James wait anxiously at the mortuary

Meanwhile, Zak sees Sam and Rachel rowing when the car breaks down. Zak tries to raise the matter with Rachel but she reacts badly. Later, Rachel puts Sam under pressure to tell Zak and Lisa that they won't be welcome at Ruby's funeral. When Zak hears this, he is more worried than ever about what's going on.

Elsewhere, Ashley and Diane are finding it hard to get Eric to open up and discuss Val's funeral arrangements, so Diane uses underhand methods to find out what they are.

Also today, Ali is back in the village for Ruby's funeral. Dan explains exactly what happened, but it's clear that he's still suffering himself.

Finally, Priya is unimpressed when Rakesh tells her what Jimmy wants, while Emma and James give into their passion.

Airs Tuesday, Aug 25 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV

Hour-long episode

Debbie is shocked by Pete's confession, while he is floored to learn that the body in the morgue is not Ross but a complete stranger. Pete reluctantly tells Debbie about the deadly fight he had with Ross on the day of the wedding. When Debbie wants them to go and find Ross's body, Pete loses his temper and asks her how she can still love his brother. She is horrified by his outburst and begins to panic, shouting at Pete to stay away and thinking he is just like Cameron.

Soon afterwards, James finds a panicked Debbie running down the street and is soon left in shock when Pete tells him that he killed Ross. When he learns that his son is serious, a devastated James asks Pete to take him to where he left the body. Forced to agree, Pete takes James out in the moors.

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Debbie is horrified by Pete's confession

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Pete shows James where he left Ross's body

Meanwhile, it's time for Ruby's funeral but Lisa and Zak struggle after being banned from the service. Lisa is shocked when Zak tells her that he thinks Rachel is being violent towards Sam. Outside the church, Ali is concerned by Rachel's furious reaction when Sam's phone goes off as he is pall bearing. Later in The Woolpack, Rachel tells Sam that he ruined Ruby's funeral. Sam follows her outside, fearing her temper. Once outside, Ali is witness to Rachel's behaviour and makes a life-changing suggestion to her sister.

Elsewhere, Diane gathers a small group in The Woolpack back room to watch Val's DVD, which turns out to be a lively video detailing how she wants a spectacular and extravagant send-off. All except a numb Eric are amused and touched to see Val again - until she dishes out some rather harsh opinions!

Also today, Bob is left uneasy when Ged tries to coerce him into getting Brenda to sneak stuff into prison for him. Bob comes clean to Brenda about Ged's demands, but will she cooperate?


Airs Wednesday, Aug 26 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV

James fills in Emma about what happened with Pete and Ross. Pete tries to talk to Debbie but is guilt-ridden when she compares him to Cameron and warns him to stay away from her. She points out that even if she could forgive him, he will never truly forgive her for the affair with Ross. Pete is devastated but unable to deny it.

Later, Pete feels the scorn of his family for the first time in his life.

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Pete feels the wrath of his family when he arrives

Meanwhile, Ged has arranged for his friend Anita to meet Brenda with a sim card for her to sneak into prison. As Brenda arrives through prison security, she sets off the metal detector. Will a terrified Brenda get through this?

Elsewhere, despite knowing it's for the best, Sam is devastated to be losing Rachel. Jai is shocked to hear that Rachel is moving to Liverpool but is powerless to stop her. Rachel goes to see Megan and thanks her for her help. She is shocked when Megan reveals that she is still pregnant. Later, Rachel says her goodbyes.

Also today, Ali tells Amelia that she is going to live with Sean. Dan is told that he needs to be there for his daughter, but it's clear that he is still struggling.

Finally, David tells Alicia the move to Portugal is on hold for now. Alicia convinces him to book flights, but it's clear that he is reluctant.


Airs Thursday, Aug 27 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV

Hour-long episode

Cain is angry to learn that Pete is hanging around, but Moira thinks he wouldn't attack Debbie as he worships the ground she walks on. Cain isn't convinced and points out that Cameron did as well.

Later, Debbie is unnerved to see Pete in her house. He tells her that he is just picking up his belongings, but he is heartbroken to see that she is terrified of him.

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Pete is disappointed that Debbie is scared of him

Meanwhile, Bob tells a frightened Brenda that she won't have to sneak anything else into prison. Back in their cell, Bob stands up to Ged but is wary when he agrees not to go near Brenda again. Later, Harriet is shocked when Bob rings her and says that she has to change her statement about Ged because Ged will hurt Brenda if she doesn't. Harriet tells Bob to lie to Ged that she'll do what he wants, hopeful that Bob will be released before Ged goes to trial.

Elsewhere, Sam realises that Megan is still pregnant and invites her to live with him. She is grateful for his support, but Jai evicts Sam from his house when he learns about the arrangement. Later, Megan tells Priya and Rishi about Jai's latest bad behaviour. Rishi warns Jai that business is bad at the factory thanks to the gossip about him and unless they recover the orders he lost, they won't be able to pay the staff. Rishi says that he'll only help Jai with the business if he lets Megan stay rent-free with Sam.

Also today, Doug watches Val's DVD as he helps with funeral arrangements, but is left unimpressed when Val has given Diane some advice. Later in the pub, Doug shows Laurel the comedy tie he has bought for the funeral, anxious to prove that Val was wrong about him!

Finally, Jai looks for Rachel but Lisa and Zak refuse to help him, Emma is overwhelmed when James suggests they tell people they're back together, while Alicia tells Jacob they can't go to Portugal at the moment.


Airs Friday, Aug 28 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV

Jai tries desperately to sell the cocaine but it's to no avail. At the same time, a frustrated Kirin is trying to get money for his cordial packaging but Rishi can't help him.

Jai sees Kirin's predicament and gets an idea. He tries to get Kirin to shift the drugs and even tells him about Rakesh's history with cocaine to convince him. Will Kirin agree to risk everything? Later, Rakesh is furious to learn that Jai told Kirin about his past with drugs.

Meanwhile, Harriet admits that she doesn't have any leads on Carly, with Bob's sentencing due to take place next week.

Elsewhere, Eric's resentment for Diane grows.

Michael Parr is bluffing everyone his character Ross Barton is not dead. Ross will be back.

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Airs Tuesday, Aug 25 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV
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Yes, these detailed spoilers posted early this morning show that James and Pete go to the woods. It isn't clear from the text or photo that they find a body or empty ditch but Ross isn't mentioned in the spoilers for August 26th-28th and we know from Sunday World magazine that Mike Parr has been filming at the Emmerdale village up to last week at least. As it is unlikely that James and Pete would find Ross alive but injured in the ditch, it must be an empty ditch and Ross will have walked away/been rescued (seems he didn't have a mobile phone though) by a dog-walker or someone, and Ross will reappear in Emmerdale in due course. I wonder how the relationship beween Pete and Ross is played out. Ross really seems to have nine lives of a cat. First off, his mother Emma tries to kill him when he was a 2yo boy, and now his own brother Pete 'accidentally' nearly kills him in an angry fight over Debbie. It's true that love and sex are very powerful emotions though and can make someone capable of doing just about anything if the circumstances include being in the wrong place at the wrong time. In Pete's case, sexual love has beaten brotherly love.

I'm a bit worried that history might repeat itself in due course and that Emma might somehow kill Moses (or attempt to), either by poisoning or violence. I don't remember the reason or exact circumstances of the way in which Emma tried to kill Ross when he was a 2yo boy, but maybe it was a conflict between James and another woman who drove her to it, or a mother's instinct that Ross was obviously a bad 2yo destined to become an older bad boy that she attempted to kill him back then? Maybe the storywriters will tell us more/remind us about Emma's history in due course and we'll get to know what was happening in her life back then when Ross was very young? Pete has never forgotten/forgiven Emma for trying to kill Ross. How ironic that it turned out to be him who seems to also have nearly done the same thing nearly two weeks ago.

Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s1...osss-fury.html

I'm also wondering who the body in the mortuary is and where it was found? The spoiler says it is just some random who was around the village who seems to have had an accidental/dodgy end.

Cheetah wrote on 15-08-15 on the Emmerdale Spoilers 17th-21st August thread
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I think Ross is still alive - he's got a lot more trouble to stir up - I think the body may be the guy Harriet said she saw watching her. I think she said it was someone from her police time that she had to give evidence against. It could be someone from the fair.
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So we'll have to see what the spoilers say this week or when the episode about it gets shown on Tuesday 25th.

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it must be an empty ditch and Ross will have walked away/been rescued (seems he didn't have a mobile phone though) by a dog-walker or someone

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The video preview spoiler on itv.com for Wednesday 19th shows Emma finding Ross' mobile phone in one of Ross' bedroom storage containers. Finn then tells her it's Ross' old pay-as-you-go phone with Donna's old stuff on it. So Ross presumably had a new phone with him when Pete dumped Ross in the woods. I guess that the phone would show Ross on a map using GPS where he was and then he was either able to walk out of the woods by himself or to phone a friend to come and collect him from the woods and get treatment for his injuries in someone's home/hospital somewhere. Alternatively, maybe a dog-walker found Ross (dog smelled Ross and brought the dog-walker to the body) and took him away by helping him walk to his car nearby.

Source: http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/preview...wed-19-aug-7pm

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The video preview spoiler on itv.com for Wednesday 19th shows Emma finding Ross' mobile phone in one of Ross' bedroom storage containers. Finn then tells her it's Ross' old pay-as-you-go phone with Donna's old stuff on it. So Ross presumably had a new phone with him when Pete dumped Ross in the woods. I guess that the phone would show Ross on a map using GPS where he was and then he was either able to walk out of the woods by himself or to phone a friend to come and collect him from the woods and get treatment for his injuries in someone's home/hospital somewhere. Alternatively, maybe a dog-walker found Ross (dog smelled Ross and brought the dog-walker to the body) and took him away by helping him walk to his car nearby.

Source: http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/preview...wed-19-aug-7pm

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Cain took Ross unconscious from his house without any phone and I assume he had no phone at the hospital going straight from village to there

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I don't remember the reason or exact circumstances of the way in which Emma tried to kill Ross when he was a 2yo boy, but maybe it was a conflict between James and another woman who drove her to it, or a mother's instinct that Ross was obviously a bad 2yo destined to become an older bad boy that she attempted to kill him back then? Maybe the storywriters will tell us more/remind us about Emma's history in due course and we'll get to know what was happening in her life back then when Ross was very young? Pete has never forgotten/forgiven Emma for trying to kill Ross. How ironic that it turned out to be him who seems to also have nearly done the same thing nearly two weeks ago..

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If I remember correctly Emma said she was suffering from post natal depression and when Ross was crying she couldn't take it and tried to smother him with a pillow?

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If I remember correctly Emma said she was suffering from post natal depression and when Ross was crying she couldn't take it and tried to smother him with a pillow?

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Yes she did. Looking after 3 young children with little support from James got too much for her and she snapped the night she left the family home

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If I remember correctly Emma said she was suffering from post natal depression and when Ross was crying she couldn't take it and tried to smother him with a pillow?

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Yes she did. Looking after 3 young children with little support from James got too much for her and she snapped the night she left the family home

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If I remember correctly Emma said she was suffering from post natal depression and when Ross was crying she couldn't take it and tried to smother him with a pillow?

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Yes, you're right about the post natal depression, I checked the internet and found two interviews involving this and Emma.

Daily Express published on Wednesday, April 22 2015:
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It was revealed last night that the actress' character Emma Barton had previously tried to kill her son, bad boy Ross (Michael Parr), when he was a toddler.

Speaking on Good Morning Britain today, the 42-year-old discussed what makes the troubled mother-of-three tick as well as the fun she is having in her latest role.

When asked about Tuesday's episode, which saw her big secret exposed, the soap star said: "It's something we talk about as a family within Emmerdale, but in the village she functions as a normal woman. Nobody knew until last night that she could be capable of that.

"We think it was at a time when Emma - I had to patch something together and think what would cause you to do something like that to your own baby - had post-natal depression."
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Source: http://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-n...on-family-life

Also Liverpool Echo published an earlier more general interview about playing Emma on December 30 2014:
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As mum to four-year-old son John did you struggle to play an estranged mother?

“You kind of think how do people do it? You can’t envisage leaving one behind never mind three, but she’s a more fragile person. When I was trying to find out what would motivate her to do that, it’s someone who isn’t very strong and someone who hasn’t got very much self belief. That’s what I have tried to depict. It’s not that she’s an evil person who just doesn’t bond with her sons, she loves them very much, but everyone overwhelms her to the point where she loses sight of reality. I think it’s definitely post natal depression she’s had.

“I love playing a mum, especially a mum of boys. I have three brothers as well so having the three sons is very familiar to me.”
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Source: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/...making-8363712

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Cain took Ross unconscious from his house without any phone and I assume he had no phone at the hospital going straight from village to there

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Yes, there wasn't any sign of a phone during the Ross scene in the house. He did already have his outdoor clothes on there though and I suppose it's possible that he had a phone in a trouser pocket or jacket pocket, although maybe Cain thought of this and took any mobile phone off unconscious Ross so as to prevent him contacting anyone at the wedding ceremony. If Ross did have a mobile phone on him when he was in the back of the van, then I've now realised that when Ross jumped into the water in the quarry and remained semi-submerged at the quarryside for what seemed like ages, any mobile phone he did have on him would be unlikely to work again, as all of the mobile phones I've known of to fall into water have never worked again or been repairable. When Ross ran back to the village and saw Debbie being carried into the car to be taken to hospital, it is not shown how Ross gets to the hospital. I suppose he might have gone into his house, got his new mobile phone (if he could find where he'd left it there/Cain had left it) and driven to the hospital in his car. So maybe he did have a working mobile phone when Pete dumped him in the woods?

The other thing is that Pete seemed to walk quite a distance with Ross on his shoulders away from the car to the dumping ground. Maybe this was too far off the beaten track for a dog-walker to find Ross and maybe Ross did instead regain consciousness and walk away by himself? We'll see in the Emmerdale episode on Tuesday 25th if the ditch is empty or not, but Ross may just remain missing and how he came to leave the woods might never be explained in detail, even when (I hope) he suddenly returns to Emmerdale some day.

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Cain took Ross unconscious from his house without any phone and I assume he had no phone at the hospital going straight from village to there

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When Ross ran back to the village and saw Debbie being carried into the car to be taken to hospital, it is not shown how Ross gets to the hospital. I suppose he might have gone into his house, got his new mobile phone (if he could find where he'd left it there/Cain had left it) and driven to the hospital in his car. So maybe he did have a working mobile phone when Pete dumped him in the woods?

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I wondered about the distance from Emmerdale to Hotten General Hospital. Emmerdale used to be filmed on location in Esholt, with Hotten scenes being filmed in Otley, about 6 miles away by road. From 1989, the scenes for Hotten were filmed in Farsley, about 5.5 miles from Esholt. Since 1997, Emmerdale has been filmed on a set built around the former Stub House farm near Harewood, about 8 miles from Otley and 11 miles from Farsley (mileage calculator from aa.co.uk).

However, the emmerdale.me.uk website has a photo of the sign-post outside the vets' house which shows that it is 7.5 miles from Emmerdale to Hotten.

7.5 miles could be run by a fit lad like Ross in about an hour, so maybe this is how he got to the hospital. In his hurry, he might not have gone into his house and recovered his new phone, if this was where it had been left, so he might not have had a working phone on his body when he was left in the woods by Pete.

Road sign-post photo at: http://www.emmerdale.me.uk/IMG/emm-vets.jpg

Annotated Emmerdale Village aerial map at: http://www.emmerdale.me.uk/IMG/emmer...h2-overlay.jpg

Info Source: http://www.emmerdale.me.uk/emmerdale.htm

(You'll need to click on the green "MORE" tabs to see the extra photos on the website)

Emmerdale Village labelled street map at : http://emmerdale.net/map/mapin.jpg

It's been said on several occasions that Michael Parr has been seen at the studios. Seen by who?

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It's been said on several occasions that Michael Parr has been seen at the studios. Seen by who?

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Round-up of posts about references to Mike Parr seen on Emmerdale set recently.

kennedyfan86 wrote on 11-08-15 on Emmerdale Spoilers 17th - 21st August thread:
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Mike Parr gave us a hint anyway saying he was like Jesus at his last supper with cast, Jesus rose again, and Ross has a son called Moses, lol
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dalesfan wrote on 12-08-15 on Major Emmerdale spoiler thread:
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I so hope this is true! Ross needs to be alive. Nothing against you OP but it's hard to believe things on internet.

There is a lot of speculation going around. And I'm leaning more to him being alive. Maybe about 60/40 lol. Michael Parr was seen quite a few times at the studios over the last few weeks. After they wrapped on SummerFate
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dalesfan wrote on 14-08-15 on Ross Barton (Mike Parr) thread:
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Michael Parr signed a new 1 year contract last year. Reportedly August. So yes it would be up now. And Seeing as he has left the show now the timing does sound about right. They wrapped the Summer Fate stuff early July. This would mean he still had a few weeks left in his contract? Now I'm not really sure how it all works. BUT he was still seen at the studios in these last few weeks. This is why people still think it doesn't add up. If they have Killed Ross then he wouldn't be needed at the studios as there would be nothing for him to film. Unless he isn't really dead comes back or is found. Has some pretty nasty injuries and then leaves the show.
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shaine1811 wrote on 17-08-15 on Ross Barton (Mike Parr) thread:
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I think your right bout him taking a break but I'm veering towards him being alive as there was an article in yesterday's Sunday World magazine where Charley Webb is showing the Irish press around 8 weeks after the crash took place and she introduces the Irish press to Michael and Anthony and the article goes onto say that they 'are busy boys on set these days as the fall out after the wedding revelations continue for Pete and Ross'
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dalesfan wrote on 17-08-15 on Ross Barton (Mike Parr) thread:
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There is scans of it on twitter. Just had a look and it does sound like they were all on set and they do talk about it being 8 weeks ago
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dalesfan wrote on 17-08-15 on Ross Barton (Mike Parr) thread:
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Let me go and see if I can find it again. It was one of the Michael Parr Fan pages on twitter.

Edit - https://twitter.com/sher222_sher/sta...74322332774400
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Telly Watcher wrote on 17-08-15 on Ross Barton (Mike Parr) thread:
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It took me a while to read the article, I had to find a magnifying glass and type bits of the text out. But you're right, it does mention what you wrote. It looks like a really great spoiler.

Sunday World, August 16th 2015, published:
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Charley had SIX wedding dresses made for the disaster scene, and did all the stunts herself.

"The bit where you saw everything collapse - that was us [the actors]. We did all that ourselves," she says proudly. "We were absolutely covered in dust for days. But there was never anywhere where we didn't feel safe. We never felt in jeopardy while filming. So, because of that, we had a lot of fun doing it.

"That was filmed about eight weeks ago and Debbie was in a coma. But as viewers would have seen a couple of nights ago, she's back - fighting fit," says Charley with a massive grin.

... etc

Michael and Anthony are busy boys on-set these days after the fall-out from the wedding revelations continue for Pete and Ross. "Two brothers, one woman...it's big", smiles Michael.

After Pete beat Ross up and shoved him over a cliff, his mother Emma becomes worried about his disappearance. Cain Dingle then becomes a suspect when it's learned he left Ross locked in a van on the side of a cliff, while Pete soon freaks out when the police find a body.

... etc
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'Michael and Anthony are busy boys on-set these days after the fall-out from the wedding revelations continue for Pete and Ross'

Sounds like Ross is alive and kicking after all. The Summer Fate scenes would have been filmed around June, so for Pete and Ross to be filming on-set last week shows the storyline carries on between them and that Ross survives somehow. I think he must have regained consciousness and walked out of the wood himself/more likely got rescued by a dog-walker or something, maybe suffered amnesia and spent some days/weeks in hospital. Why weren't the police informed about this incident, I wonder? Time will tell.
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It's been said on several occasions that Michael Parr has been seen at the studios. Seen by who?

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Fans who visit the studios. One fan had a picture with him on on July 22nd. Someone that was involved in something at the studios/itv seen Ross on August 6th. ?It's kinda hard to hide stuff like that if people are actually seeing him there and they meet him or a quick search on twitter will have stuff come up. Mike himself even posted an instagram vid of him trying to scare Adam Thomas again and I'm sure that was after they filmed the disaster stuff

Probably not at studios but I was just having a look at Mike's twitter and a few people he follows. A critical care nurse who tweeted him on July 29th https://twitter.com/Skinsey00/status/626481038953459712 interesting tweet

Yeah, too many people working in that team or visiting studios..and with twitter and rest social media..stuff always leak out somehow..
I knew he wouldn't be dead/gone for good, he's far too popular character for the show..drama continues..

Yeah, too many people working in that team or visiting studios..and with twitter and rest social media..stuff always leak out somehow..
I knew he wouldn't be dead/gone for good, he's far too popular character for the show..drama continues..

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Fans who visit the studios. One fan had a picture with him on on July 22nd. Someone that was involved in something at the studios/itv seen Ross on August 6th. ?It's kinda hard to hide stuff like that if people are actually seeing him there and they meet him or a quick search on twitter will have stuff come up. Mike himself even posted an instagram vid of him trying to scare Adam Thomas again and I'm sure that was after they filmed the disaster stuff

Probably not at studios but I was just having a look at Mike's twitter and a few people he follows. A critical care nurse who tweeted him on July 29th https://twitter.com/Skinsey00/status/626481038953459712 interesting tweet

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Her twitter summary is "Critical Care Nurse whose feet are throbbing at the end of day. Wanders onto Corrie & Emmerdale occasionally, is a blood letter & always smells of horse crap..".

She could have just treated Mike Parr in hospital on July 29th for an injury unrelated to Emmerdale.

Or it could be that Mike Parr got injured whilst acting on-set on Wednesday 29th July and she treated him there/in hospital for this. If so, the acted scene wouldn't usually appear on TV for 6/7 weeks, roughly around September 9th - 16th 2015, unless it was a late rush over something to do for Summer Fate week during August 3rd - 7th (Ross 'died' on August 6th).

Mike Parr's claim about having a new job in London was on Twitter on August 14th.

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Airs Monday, Aug 24 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV

Pete panics as James and Emma set off to identify Ross's body. He tells Finn that he should prepare himself for the worst. James and Emma try to phone Pete after seeing the body but he doesn't answer his phone.

Pete is crippled with fear as he expects the police to come calling at any moment. This drives him to make a confession as he tells Debbie that he killed Ross.

...etc

Airs Tuesday, Aug 25 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV

Hour-long episode

Debbie is shocked by Pete's confession, while he is floored to learn that the body in the morgue is not Ross but a complete stranger.

...etc

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The body in the mortuary could be the person who was reported on the TV News programme (seen in the pub with Eric, Rodney and Doug) as having fallen from the cliff edge on the same day as the helicopter crash. It's not mentioned where the cliff edge was but maybe it was someone near the van at the quarry where Ross was taken by Cain?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLlic9-WEAANHXZ.jpg
Emmerdale TV News screenshot after helicopter crash

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It's not mentioned where the cliff edge was but maybe it was someone near the van at the quarry where Ross was taken by Cain?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLlic9-WEAANHXZ.jpg
Emmerdale TV News screenshot after helicopter crash

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Having thought more about this, it sounds like someone near the quarry on August 4th saw Ross falling from the cliff into the water and reported it to the police, that's why the TV news mentions it. 'Emergency Services At Scene of Both...(incidents?). Maybe a body was recovered near the quarry after a search was made and it was taken to the hospital mortuary? Of course, the body in the mortuary could have come from anywhere around Emmerdale but we know that Ross survived the quarry water and that he isn't this body in the mortuary.

In yesterday's episode (Wednesday August 19th), Emma is worried about Ross being missing for about two weeks now and is opening his letters which have arrived at the farm during this time.

James:
"You're wasting your time. The phone proves nothing, you'll laugh about this in a few months when he walks through that door, larger than life, twice as cocky."

Emma:
"There's something wrong, I know it."

James:
"Yeah, well he nearly broke me the last time and we ended up nearly losing the farm, remember? Don't fall for it, Emma. It's about time he realised it just isn't all about him."

Emma:
"His car's been impounded. Left at the station weeks ago."

James:
"So it's a rust bucket held together with string. He probably thought it was cheaper than scrapping it."

Emma:
"Why can't you see what's in front of you?"

James:
"You are making out like I don't know my own son."

Finn:
"Wherever he is, he's not taken his wallet."

Emma:
"All his credit cards, his driving licence. Cash."

Finn:
"How is he going to manage without them?"

Emma:
"He'd need money, wouldn't he? Wherever he was."

James:
"His current account's not been touched."

Emma:
""Since when?"

James:
"Since the day he went missing."

Emma:
"No money, no credit cards, no cash. Oh God! I told you I could feel it. There's no other explanation. He's dead!"

(End of episode)


Emma mentions that Ross' car has been impounded and "left at the station weeks ago". Presumably this was at a railway station near to Hotten General Hospital?

I suppose he could have left it there when it broke down during the day(s) before the helicopter crash (August 4th)?

Or, during the day(s) after dumping Ross' body in the woods, maybe Pete drove Ross' car from the farm to the railway station and left it there (to make it look like Ross had run off for a time) before Pete used a taxi to get back to Emmerdale?

I think that maybe the storyline could go like this. After Ross got out of the water at the quarry and ran to near the village, he watched Pete putting injured Debbie into Pete's car to take her to hospital in Hotten. Ross then went into his house, got his new mobile phone(?) and car keys and then drove to the hospital to see if Debbie was all right. He then had his fight with Pete and got dumped in the woods. After a while, Ross regained consciousness, left the woods, got to the hospital for treatment over a day or two, then drove his car from the hospital to the railway station and he left on a train to remain missing for some time by staying at a friend's house away from Emmerdale. He has so far managed without having his usual credit cards and money but, as a bad boy, I'm sure he would be able to get whatever he needed in some dodgy way or another. Eventually, he shows up at Emmerdale, but he may do this secretly to see just one or two people as he might be scared of what Pete could do if he meets him again.

Just some ideas.

As an aside, here's a great labelled map showing Emmerdale Village with the locations of where characters live/lived.
(Looks like it was made before 2013).

Map at: http://i.imgur.com/xIEoC.png

Pete wasn't in the house with them, it was James his father!

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Pete wasn't in the house with them, it was James his father!

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Oops, was half awake. Script between Emma and James now corrected in original post.

Yeah-but surely if he got to hospital somehow, he would have been really bad way. They would have contacted the next of kin(we all have one in hospital records) or if he didn't know who he was himself due to head injury, they would have definitely contacted police. That's of course in real life..
I reckon he hasn't gone to hospital at all, not around there anyway. He has plenty of dodgy friends I'm sure who he could have rang for help.
We don't know how close to the hospital the railway station is? Maybe just next to it. He could have just parked it there out of view(because of Cain)when he went to see Debbie.
UNLESS-Pete used Ross's car to move the 'body' and then abandoned it at the railway station??

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Yeah-but surely if he got to hospital somehow, he would have been really bad way. They would have contacted the next of kin(we all have one in hospital records) or if he didn't know who he was himself due to head injury, they would have definitely contacted police. That's of course in real life..
I reckon he hasn't gone to hospital at all, not around there anyway. He has plenty of dodgy friends I'm sure who he could have rang for help.
We don't know how close to the hospital the railway station is? Maybe just next to it. He could have just parked it there out of view(because of Cain)when he went to see Debbie.

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Yes, I'm happy with these suggestions, mariba. A fresh eye from someone else with a different perspective and the sharing of ideas is always helpful in these matters.

I did wonder about the location of the station and whether it was near the hospital or not. I also wondered about the hospital and if he got treated or not, but if he was then maybe he was lucid enough to say he fell down somehow and it was just an accident involving no-one else and not a police matter as far as hospital staff were concerned? I think it is possible to not have to give details of any next-of-kin to be contacted if showing up as an adult at A&E for treatment after a personal accident. I also couldn't think of how he could be able to get on a train (where a guard would have been there to check tickets, etc) whilst covered in blood and looking really bad unless he had somehow been cleaned up first and had his wounds dealt with. Him staying with a friend in Hotten or anywhere else near the woods would also work. Of course, we might all be shocked on Tuesday August 25th if his dead body gets found in the woods by Pete and James, but I for one at least hope that this doesn't happen and am encouraged by the spoiler hints and suggestions given for now from several sources that Mike Parr has, until very recently at least, been seen to be working hard on the Emmerdale set around Leeds and so somehow must have survived the dumping in the woods by Pete.

What really happened to Ross after he was dumped in the woods by Pete might never be shown in a TV episode. After all, it wasn't shown on TV what happened during the time between when he ran to the village from the quarry and then appeared at the hospital later. I suspect that all we might see at some time in the future is when he re-appears (I hope) in Emmerdale later, unless Emmerdale shows a flashback sequence (unlikely, I reckon, it doesn't seem to be that kind of show, not being American and all that) or Ross gives clues away in his future spoken script. So we may only be left with our guesses and theories about the time-gap.

I am still waiting in the hope that Mike Parr will give an unambiguous statement about the Ross character. His Twitter posts remain ambiguous and incomplete. I don't think he has lied to his fans but he has maybe remained silent about definite details and about giving definite statements. Actors by profession play fake characters and essentially lie to their viewers under the illusion of suspending belief for viewers in what they as actors are doing. This, of course, is what the viewers are paying for, to be entertained in a fantasy world outside reality and normal life.

Here are some Twitter posts Mike Parr has made about Ross since he got 'killed off' on August 6th.

Michael Parr ‏@MikeParrActor Aug 6
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Cheerio Ross!!! You caused some trouble in that village lad!
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>>Telly Watcher: (This could mean: Cheerio Ross!!! You caused some trouble in that village lad! But Ross is going to be back in a while to cause even more!)


Michael Parr ‏@MikeParrActor Aug 6
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Michael Parr retweeted Duncan Foster

Giz a job. In all honesty I've never been prouder to be part of a piece drama. Thank you for your guidance x

Michael Parr added,
Duncan Foster @duncanfo
@MikeParrActor you were superb mike. Catch up soon. C
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>>Telly Watcher: (This could mean: Giz a job. In all honesty I've never been prouder to be part of a piece drama. Thank you for your guidance x. But I'm laying low for a while but I'm still on Emmerdale soon in the future and need something in the meantime to tide me over.)


Michael Parr ‏@MikeParrActor Aug 7
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I forgot how much auditions absolutely suck.
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>>Telly Watcher: (This could mean: I forgot how much auditions absolutely suck. But I like to see what else is around that might pay better and add kudos points to my CV. Whatever happens on this, Ross is coming back on Emmerdale in due course, as the pay, working conditions and banter between me and fellow actors are just awesome.)

Michael Parr ‏@MikeParrActor Aug 14
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Off to London now. Got a new job, can't say what it is but when we start rehearsals I'll let you know.
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>>Telly Watcher: (This could mean: Off to London now. Got a new job, can't say what it is but when we start rehearsals I'll let you know. It's only a short fixed-term contract thing, maybe part-time for now, but I want to see what else is around that might pay better and improve my CV. Whatever happens on this, Ross is coming back to Emmerdale in due course.)

Michael Parr ‏@MikeParrActor Aug 17
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Michael Parr retweeted Loz Wuz

It's been overwhelming. Thank you so much to everyone who signed. Very proud to have worked with Kate Oates

Michael Parr added,
Loz Wuz @LauraWoollin
You must be pretty chuffed if you're an actor that leaves a show and people start a petition to get you back @MikeParrActor
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>>Telly Watcher: (This could mean: It's been overwhelming. Thank you so much to everyone who signed. But the petition wasn't necessary really. Looks like the people up North, especially around Yorkshire (where Emmerdale is filmed and I'm known really well) and Merseyside (where I come from, that's St Helens, mert) knew all along that I haven't left Emmerdale but to suggest this really helps to keep viewers glued to Emmerdale episodes on the TV and keeps viewer ratings high until I come back as Ross. Very proud to have worked with Kate Oates. But our professional relationship isn't over yet, she's a really great boss and I'll be seen in Emmerdale on TV in the not-too-distant future, you'll see later.)

Michael Parr ‏@MikeParrActor Aug 18
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Bailey....can't find you on here. Quinny finally gave me your presents. Thank you so so much, not necessary but I'extremely generous x
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>>Telly Watcher: (This could mean: Bailey....can't find you on here. Quinny finally gave me your presents. Thank you so so much, not necessary but I'extremely generous x. I haven't left Emmerdale really, you've wasted your time and money getting me presents though as I'm back on Emmerdale on TV really soon, just you wait and see.)

Source: https://twitter.com/MikeParrActor/with_replies

Adlibs by Telly Watcher ;)

In all seriousness though, what I'd really like to read is something very definite about Ross on Emmerdale from Mike Parr, with no ambiguity at all.

For example, Twitter post "Very proud to have worked with Kate Oates."

Here are two possible instances for what this could really mean, if a definite unambiguous statement was made.

1)
Very proud to have worked with Kate Oates. I had a great time on Emmerdale from 2013-2015 but my Ross character was killed off, I am no longer one of the Emmerdale cast and I now have a full-time job in London which involves rehearsals until the show begins later this year. I am also playing the role of 'G' in the next instalments of the film 'Dark Ascension'.

or,

2)
Very proud to have worked with Kate Oates. I hope that I can give much more to Emmerdale, the future looks really exciting for Ross and the latest script is terrific. Anthony is such a great guy to work alongside and the rest of the Emmerdale cast are a great laugh and we have great banter between us, especially between me, Kelvin, Danny and Adam.

I suppose that time will tell what happens next.

Didn't anyone else think that when they said his car was impounded weeks ago sounded like it was longer before the disaster?

Also what car did Pete actually use to take Ross' body to the woods? He was driven to the hospital so who's car was it?

http://www.whatsontv.co.uk/emmerdale...onger-a-barton

"While Pete is trying to talk to Debbie, who wants nothing to do with him, James tells Emma what their son has just told him – that he killed Ross. With that, the mum is on a mission to find her son’s body"

So this spoiler gives an even bigger indicator that his body isn't there in the woods.

I had the same thoughts as you mariba. If he was in a bad way in a hospital then if they couldn't identify him that the police would have been involved. But then who knows what with patient confidentiality and all that. Or he could have got to a hospital and then later discharged himself, that would be something I could see Ross doing. He had some pretty big bangs to the head so I would be surprised if there wasn't any damage. And if someone was helping him it would be pretty difficult for them to give him treatment. Maybe once there is a police report that he is actually missing his whereabouts might come to light. His phone would be no use as it was in water. assuming it was on him when he jumped. So unless he put it in rice it probably wont work :p

As for the tweets Telly Watcher since Ross has been gone. Not from him but according to a tweet someone seen him in Leeds yesterday so he must be going back and forth to London and Leeds. But that probably isn't a surprise seeing as he lives there and his (possible) girlfriend does too

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Didn't anyone else think that when they said his car was impounded weeks ago sounded like it was longer before the disaster?

Also what car did Pete actually use to take Ross' body to the woods? He was driven to the hospital so who's car was it?

http://www.whatsontv.co.uk/emmerdale...onger-a-barton

\\\\\"While Pete is trying to talk to Debbie, who wants nothing to do with him, James tells Emma what their son has just told him – that he killed Ross. With that, the mum is on a mission to find her son’s body\\\\\"

So this spoiler gives an even bigger indicator that his body isn't there in the woods.

I had the same thoughts as you mariba. If he was in a bad way in a hospital then if they couldn't identify him that the police would have been involved. But then who knows what with patient confidentiality and all that. Or he could have got to a hospital and then later discharged himself, that would be something I could see Ross doing. He had some pretty big bangs to the head so I would be surprised if there wasn't any damage. And if someone was helping him it would be pretty difficult for them to give him treatment. Maybe once there is a police report that he is actually missing his whereabouts might come to light. His phone would be no use as it was in water. assuming it was on him when he jumped. So unless he put it in rice it probably wont work :p

As for the tweets Telly Watcher since Ross has been gone. Not from him but according to a tweet someone seen him in Leeds yesterday so he must be going back and forth to London and Leeds. But that probably isn't a surprise seeing as he lives there and his (possible) girlfriend does too

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dalesfan wrote:
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Didn't anyone else think that when they said his car was impounded weeks ago sounded like it was longer before the disaster?
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I thought this, but Emma was upset and maybe not thinking clearly. By then, Ross had been missing for 13 days, so almost 2 weeks.

dalesfan wrote:
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Also what car did Pete actually use to take Ross' body to the woods? He was driven to the hospital so who's car was it?
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Many thanks for this question, I'm really glad you brought this up as it has brought a number of things to light for me this morning. I just fast-forwarded through the episode from Wednesday August 5th and played it at normal speed to watch Pete put injured Debbie into a large greyish 4-door hatch-back (possibly a VW) 4x4-type car with a nearly vertical flat hatch and outside handrails on top along the edges of the roof and registration number something like QW14 MHJ?. This had been driven by Rhona to outside The Woolpack (so Rhona's car?). It is unclear who drove to the hospital in this car, it could have Rhona driving with Pete in the passenger seat, or Pete driving? At this time, Ross was standing on the road at the top of the hill watching them. The car sped off in the other direction to hospital. After Ruby's death scene the action continues with Pete bursting into the hospital carrying Debbie in his arms and he lays her down into the A&E reception area. Then the camera pans to the entrance door and Ross is already standing there looking on and asks Pete "Is she dead". End of episode.

So Ross must have driven to the hospital in his own car. I can't remember off-hand what his usual car is, however, but I seem to vaguely remember from previous episodes at Debbie's garage it could be something dark and sporty?

In the second Thursday August 6th episode, Pete is in the woods with unconscious/'dead' Ross inside the boot of a dark (grey?) low-height 2-door(?) hatch-back VW car with a more sloping hatch and no handrails along the top, so Ross was definitely in the boot of a different car to the one that took Debbie and Pete to the hospital. I'm now thinking that Pete took Ross's body to the woods in Ross' own car?. This definitely needs more study. If this was indeed Ross's car, maybe Pete drove it from the woods and back to the station and abandoned it there, then got a taxi or walked to the hospital. If this happened, then Ross wouldn't know this and would still think it was at the hospital. He also wouldn't have the keys for it anyway so it would stay there waiting to be impounded for having no parking ticket. I think somewhere in someone's script it said Pete was missing from the hospital for about 2 hours. Cain's script? Maybe I could check when I've got more time.

dalesfan wrote:
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http://www.whatsontv.co.uk/emmerdale...onger-a-barton

"While Pete is trying to talk to Debbie, who wants nothing to do with him, James tells Emma what their son has just told him – that he killed Ross. With that, the mum is on a mission to find her son’s body"

So this spoiler gives an even bigger indicator that his body isn't there in the woods.
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Yes, this really gives the game away. This scene with Pete, Emma and James is aired on Wednesday August 26th, in the episode after the Tuesday one where James and Pete go to the woods to look for Ross' body. So, there's no body found in the woods at the location where they look.

WhatsonTV wrote in latest web magazine accessed on August 21st:
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'You’re no longer a Barton'
7:00pm, Wednesday, 26 August 2015, ITV

"While Pete is trying to talk to Debbie, who wants nothing to do with him, James tells Emma what their son has just told him – that he killed Ross. With that, the mum is on a mission to find her son’s body. When Pete later dares to come home, he discovers he is no longer welcome."
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Source: http://www.whatsontv.co.uk/emmerdale...onger-a-barton

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As for the tweets Telly Watcher since Ross has been gone. Not from him but according to a tweet someone seen him in Leeds yesterday so he must be going back and forth to London and Leeds. But that probably isn't a surprise seeing as he lives there and his (possible) girlfriend does too
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Yes, I seem to remember reading somewhere on Twitter that Mike Parr walks through Leeds railway station avoiding fans by pretending to be on his mobile phone, wearing a hat pulled low down and staring at the floor ahead of him. I wouldn't want to drive from Leeds to London on a regular basis, and the train is how I'd go too.

I was reading just last night about the latest Strictly Come Dancing news for 2015. This programme starts to air on Saturday September 5th. New contestants are still being reported as joining the show for definite but Mike Parr is not mentioned as yet, even as a possible. There is a lot of secrecy about this show on this. Last year the show was made at the Elstree Studios in Borehamwood, Herts, and I think it's the same place for this year. Although Elstree is technically Hertfordshire, it's very near to the Outer Ring Road and I've always thought of it as being just like Outer London myself. The train journey from Leeds to Elstree & Borehamwood takes about 3 hours and involves going from Leeds to London King's Cross, walking across to London St Pancras International, then train to Elstree & Borehamwood. Elstree Studios has a terrific history for making blockbuster movies and TV shows (East Enders and Hollyoaks are made there at present) and would look good on any actor's CV. If Mike Parr is going to take part in Strictly, then joining about now for rehearsals would be about right for a new contestant. Last year's Strictly was on TV for 3 months from launch night on September 7th, with live TV shows up to nearly Christmas 2014. If this is Mike Parr's new job, then it will end around Christmas this year.

Read more about Elstree Studios at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elstree_Studios

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1. There isn't any body in the woods and Ross is alive. (most likely and wished scenario) But why would Emma say that she wants to find Ross's body if the body isn't where it was left? Surely first hope as a mother would be ' oh my son is alive! '

2. Pete and James find Ross's body but James helps Pete to get rid of it.(this would drag on for months before-if ever- the truth would come out.)

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Many thanks for this question, I'm really glad you brought this up as it has brought a number of things to light for me this morning. I just fast-forwarded through the episode from Wednesday August 5th and played it at normal speed to watch Pete put injured Debbie into a large greyish 4-door hatch-back (possibly a VW) 4x4-type car with a nearly vertical flat hatch and outside handrails on top along the edges of the roof and registration number something like QW14 MHJ?. This had been driven by Rhona to outside The Woolpack (so Rhona's car?). It is unclear who drove to the hospital in this car, it could have Rhona driving with Pete in the passenger seat, or Pete driving? At this time, Ross was standing on the road at the top of the hill watching them. The car sped off in the other direction to hospital. After Ruby's death scene the action continues with Pete bursting into the hospital carrying Debbie in his arms and he lays her down into the A&E reception area. Then the camera pans to the entrance door and Ross is already standing there looking on and asks Pete \\"Is she dead\\". End of episode.

So Ross must have driven to the hospital in his own car. I can't remember off-hand what his usual car is, however, but I seem to vaguely remember from previous episodes at Debbie's garage it could be something dark and sporty?

In the second Thursday August 6th episode, Pete is in the woods with unconscious/'dead' Ross inside the boot of a dark (grey?) low-height 2-door(?) hatch-back VW car with a more sloping hatch and no handrails along the top, so Ross was definitely in the boot of a different car to the one that took Debbie and Pete to the hospital. I'm now thinking that Pete took Ross's body to the woods in Ross' own car?. This definitely needs more study. If this was indeed Ross's car, maybe Pete drove it from the woods and back to the station and abandoned it there, then got a taxi or walked to the hospital. If this happened, then Ross wouldn't know this and would still think it was at the hospital. He also wouldn't have the keys for it anyway so it would stay there waiting to be impounded for having no parking ticket. I think somewhere in someone's script it said Pete was missing from the hospital for about 2 hours. Cain's script? Maybe I could check when I've got more time.

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Just had a look and on the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k75...Bzw8ceI_maViLB Ross is driving a silver car and Debbie is driving a darker blue car. Ross has had quite a few cars though. He used to drive a black sporty car but seem to remember him selling it after that fighting stuff. Not sure the one above is his most recent car or not

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1. There isn't any body in the woods and Ross is alive. (most likely and wished scenario) But why would Emma say that she wants to find Ross's body if the body isn't where it was left? Surely first hope as a mother would be ' oh my son is alive! '

2. Pete and James find Ross's body but James helps Pete to get rid of it.(this would drag on for months before-if ever- the truth would come out.)

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I think she just assumes the worst. Pete has told them he killed him so they probably aren't expecting him to be alive because he hasn't been in touch and nobody has seen him. But then it might give them a little hope that his body isn't where Pete left it. But the longer the time has gone on especially with a head injury, it wouldn't look good.

I really can't see them moving the body. I know James has always seen Pete as golden boy but even that would be too much for him to help get rid of his son.

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1. There isn't any body in the woods and Ross is alive. (most likely and wished scenario) But why would Emma say that she wants to find Ross's body if the body isn't where it was left? Surely first hope as a mother would be ' oh my son is alive! '

2. Pete and James find Ross's body but James helps Pete to get rid of it.(this would drag on for months before-if ever- the truth would come out.)

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I think she just assumes the worst. Pete has told them he killed him so they probably aren't expecting him to be alive because he hasn't been in touch and nobody has seen him. But then it might give them a little hope that his body isn't where Pete left it. But the longer the time has gone on especially with a head injury, it wouldn't look good.

I really can't see them moving the body. I know James has always seen Pete as golden boy but even that would be too much for him to help get rid of his son.

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mariba wrote:
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1. There isn't any body in the woods and Ross is alive. (most likely and wished scenario) But why would Emma say that she wants to find Ross's body if the body isn't where it was left? Surely first hope as a mother would be ' oh my son is alive! '
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Emma is told by James in the Wednesday August 26th episode about what happened between Pete and Ross and how Pete said he'd killed Ross. She's upset and probably totally believes Pete when he claimed to have killed Ross. I think that Pete was absolutely convinced in his own mind that Ross was dead after the fight at the hospital. This was where he last seemed to check if Ross was dead or not (by feeling for a pulse on his jugular neck artery) although, in his shock and panic, he might not have checked this properly and missed this and other vital signs indicating life. Ross also didn't seem to regain consciousness by the time quite a while later when Pete left him in the woods, although by then Ross could have been conscious but playing dead and waiting for Pete to leave the woods before making any moves, as Ross might have thought that, if Pete knew he was still alive when he was being dumped in the woods, then Pete would maybe want to finish the job off properly and attack Ross further to make sure that Ross was really dead before leaving him. Ross hasn't been seen by anyone since Pete left him in the woods on August 6th (in scenes which were likely filmed by June/July).

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2. Pete and James find Ross's body but James helps Pete to get rid of it.(this would drag on for months before-if ever- the truth would come out.)
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This is a possible storyline too. I wonder if James would do this, seeing as he would now have lost one son forever and wouldn't also want to lose his eldest son (golden boy Pete who saved his life in January 2015) by him being jailed. Although Pete could possibly claim self-defence and accidental death perhaps, there would still be police charges to face of hiding the body, preventing lawul burial and obstruction of justice, etc, probably warranting a custodial sentence? James does seem to be a decent and honest hard-working man though and I think it unlikely that he would think of doing anything involving illegal disposal of Ross' body.

We believe from news spoilers and fan tweets to date that Mike Parr has been acting on the Emmerdale set up until at least August 10th-14th 2015, so there must be a continuing storyline for Ross beyond him being dumped in the woods if these spoilers and fan tweets are true and being interpreted correctly by us. If so, the continuing storyline for Ross would involve him disappearing for a while and then returning some time later.

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I think she just assumes the worst. Pete has told them he killed him so they probably aren't expecting him to be alive because he hasn't been in touch and nobody has seen him. But then it might give them a little hope that his body isn't where Pete left it. But the longer the time has gone on especially with a head injury, it wouldn't look good.

I really can't see them moving the body. I know James has always seen Pete as golden boy but even that would be too much for him to help get rid of his son.
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Thanks, dalesfan, you posted this just as I was finishing off my reply to mariba but we share the same ideas about Emma assuming Pete's belief in him killing Ross, and doubts about James disposing of the body.