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Yes, very interesting and could well be right!
Continuing on from my last post...
If you look at the bald man on the table, you'll see that he has a sack under his feet. We can assume that this is the same sack that Chris was hit by. Also, in the credits of the UK screening of the shooting episode, Victor's name is in the episode's cast which therefore means he is a possible suspect and probably Kate's killer. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
Continuing on from my last post...
If you look at the bald man on the table, you'll see that he has a sack under his feet. We can assume that this is the same sack that Chris was hit by. Also, in the credits of the UK screening of the shooting episode, Victor's name is in the episode's cast which therefore means he is a possible suspect and probably Kate's killer. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
You're right, it's almost certainly him that hit Chris.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamezzz981
It'll be interesting if it turns out to be Paul's fault that Kate was murdered after the way he's been ranting about Brennan being to blame. I wonder how Paul will cope with the guilt?
I wish I hadn't read your post now but you did warn about spoilers so it's my fault! :D
why is Imogen so upset over kate they were never good mates
She seems quite sensitive, and I think it just shocked her so much, the way it happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Haha thats ok. Don't forget, this is what I think and many people online think and may not be true so don't worry :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Haha thats ok. Don't forget, this is what I think and many people online think and is not true so don't worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
One thing that still confuses me.
In the behind the scenes video clip on the set at the shooting scene, Sophie (well the actress who plays her) said that she was back for Kate's Wedding.
Okay as far as we can tell the wedding isn't going to happen and when Sophie came back for Kate's Birthday Mark hadn't yet proposed to her.
So why mention a wedding then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VDOjXUDld8
One thing that still confuses me.
In the behind the scenes video clip on the set at the shooting scene, Sophie (well the actress who plays her) said that she was back for Kate's Wedding.
Okay as far as we can tell the wedding isn't going to happen and when Sophie came back for Kate's Birthday Mark hadn't yet proposed to her.
So why mention a wedding then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VDOjXUDld8
I think she has a crush on Mark :p and who can blame herQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
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I'm so over Imogen running around in her silly shorts and wedge heel sandals. I wish she would bore off. And all this nonsense with Daniel and her arguing / Imogen shouting her head off and overacting is more than a little tedious!
Know what you mean! :p:)Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Kate's exit was terrible. no blood, no wound. the paramedics were useless.
The writers cleary didn't do their medical research. Were was the cannula, the fluids, drugs, adrenalin & the defibrilator. absolutely terribe.
Kate should have been give CPR in ambulance with a drip/fluids attached to her and the defibrilator used and then given emergency surgery in hospital. Georgia was as much use as a chocolate fire guard. She's a nurse, she didn't even start CPR herself. she didn't even check for a pulse properly. if someone is shot, you shouldn't move them as well, as it could cause more damage. Kate should have been kept were she was. Georgia being a nurse should know that. They should bring Kate back. A return storyline would be more believable than that pathetic & badly written episode. Also reading comments from some real paramedics on the Neighbours facebook page, the way they gave CPR was terrible and also paramedics CAN NOT prounnce someone dead. only a doctor can annonce someone dead.
Kate's exit was terrible. no blood, no wound. the paramedics were useless.
The writers cleary didn't do their medical research. Were was the cannula, the fluids, drugs, adrenalin & the defibrilator. absolutely terribe.
Kate should have been give CPR in ambulance with a drip/fluids attached to her and the defibrilator used and then given emergency surgery in hospital. Georgia was as much use as a chocolate fire guard. She's a nurse, she didn't even start CPR herself. she didn't even check for a pulse properly. if someone is shot, you shouldn't move them as well, as it could cause more damage. Kate should have been kept were she was. Georgia being a nurse should know that. They should bring Kate back. A return storyline would be more believable than that pathetic & badly written episode. Also reading comments from some real paramedics on the Neighbours facebook page, the way they gave CPR was terrible and also paramedics CAN NOT prounnce someone dead. only a doctor can annonce someone dead. Wost exit/death scene ever. Fans could write a better exit.
Neighbours spent all that time getting Scott back and then Ashleigh leaves. The point of bringing Mark back was so Kate&Mark got back together & got their happy endng.
Neighbours need to bring Kate back and turn her death into a dream while she's in a coma recovering from her injury and dreaming what life would be like in Ramsay Street if she died.
This would be Kate's alternate reality and she's dreaming about how her friends and family would deal with her dying. This storyline is possible, as it was done in Home & Away with Alf in 2002. They could get Peri Cummings back who played Jill Ramsay and Jill could show Kate what her like in Ramsay Street would be like if she died.
the scenes that happpened, kate dying, her funeral, the tribute, Mark & Paul arguing over Kate, Paul blaming Mark for what happened to kate and Mark trying to bring Kate killer to justice and all of Kate's friends being sad about her dying would all be part of her alternate reality while she in a coma. these scenes would be edited in around other storylines that are still happening. Would be a great storyline. Then Kate & Mark can have their happy ending and get married.
A storyilne like this would be a great and definitely bring in ratings if they promoted the storyline but without giving much away.
Neighbours ratings have took a HUGE drop since Kate left, if she come back and Kate&Mark got married, ratings would rise again. Fans were looking forward to a Kate&Mark wedding. This storyline would make a brillant return storyline for kate. Ashleigh has said she would LOVE a wedding episode.
I agree the medical side of her death was silly and ill-researched, although they did at least try to explain the lack of blood by saying there was no exit wound. You've got to remember that Neighbours is rated as suitable for kids, hence the lack of gore.Quote:
Originally Posted by gillyH1981
Well no...the point was whatever the writers wanted it to be, which in this case was to up the drama by killing Kate off in Mark's arms.Quote:
Originally Posted by gillyH1981
Just because a storyline works in Home and Away, doesn't mean it'll work in another soap. H&A has a long history of messing with reality, eg supernatural storylines and the like.Quote:
Originally Posted by gillyH1981
I've seen no evidence that there's been a HUGE drop in Neighbours' ratings. Even if that's true, it doesn't mean it's because of Kate's killing, as she was more disliked than liked going by what I've read on the internet. I personally was largely indifferent to Kate.Quote:
Originally Posted by gillyH1981
I'm of the opinion that certain fans' obsession with Kate and Mark as a couple (to the point of continuously hounding the Neighbours team online) may have tipped the balance in favour of an unhappy ending for them just to spite said obsessives.
kate was never a huge beloved character well maybe only for you gillyH1981 :p
they should still have been blood. there was no blood, no wond and no hole in the dress were the bullet went through. pretty patetic exit.Quote:
I agree the medical side of her death was silly and ill-researched, although they did at least try to explain the lack of blood by saying there was no exit wound. You've got to remember that Neighbours is rated as suitable for kids, hence the lack of gore.
the point of bringing Mark back was so Kate&Mark got their happy ending. Both Scott & Ashleigh has said she would LOVE a wedding episode.Quote:
Well no...the point was whatever the writers wanted it to be, which in this case was to up the drama by killing Kate off in Mark's arms.
It would work in Neighbours, both soaps copy each other all the time. The storyline did happen in 2002 in H&A. the dream/coma storyline would bring in new & old viewers and would show neighbours are capable of storylines other than death/drama. they need to push the boundaries and do storylines they have never done before. poeple want to see happy storylines not characters getting killed off all the time. Killing characters off is making them lose heaps of viewers.Quote:
Just because a storyline works in Home and Away, doesn't mean it'll work in another soap. H&A has a long history of messing with reality, eg supernatural storylines and the like.
they should still have been blood. if you are shot, they should still be blood. there was no blood, no wound and no hole in the dress were the bullet went through. pretty pathetic & poorly written exit. it wasn't even sad or dramatic. Audrey the dog's death was more sad than Kate's exit.Quote:
I agree the medical side of her death was silly and ill-researched, although they did at least try to explain the lack of blood by saying there was no exit wound. You've got to remember that Neighbours is rated as suitable for kids, hence the lack of gore.
the point of bringing Mark back was so Kate&Mark got their happy ending. Both Scott & Ashleigh has said she would LOVE a wedding episode.Quote:
Well no...the point was whatever the writers wanted it to be, which in this case was to up the drama by killing Kate off in Mark's arms.
It would work in Neighbours, both soaps copy each other all the time. The storyline did happen in 2002 in H&A. the dream/coma storyline would bring in new & old viewers and would show neighbours are capable of storylines other than death/drama. they need to push the boundaries and do storylines they have never done before. poeple want to see happy storylines not characters getting killed off all the time. Killing characters off is making them lose heaps of viewers.Quote:
Just because a storyline works in Home and Away, doesn't mean it'll work in another soap. H&A has a long history of messing with reality, eg supernatural storylines and the like.
I tend to disagree - Kate was well loved....
I didn't mind Kate but her death exit was done badly and very quick
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by gillyH1981
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Originally Posted by gillyH1981
Audrey's death being more sad than Kate's says it all. Audrey was more beloved by many Neighbours fans than Kate was. The latter's betrayal of two of her so-called best friends with Kyle, while still being depicted as saintly, turned many viewers off Kate as a character. In fact, she was known ironically by the nickname "St Kate" on the DS forum, and disliked quite intensely by many of the posters there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Summer8
I actually didn't mind Kate and was bemused by the hatred some viewers had for her.
Here's a thread about Kate being killed on DS - you can see that most of the posters are delighted about Kate's impending death. You're mentioned quite a lot on this thread Gilly!
The story belongs to the writers and producers, not to Ashleigh Brewer's fans, who need to write their own fanfic if they want to control the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by gillyH1981
The fact that Scott McGregor was staying on after she left meant that they were never going to get a happy ending. In fact, I've just read that his contract has been extended, something the producers were probably hoping for and an eventuality they would have planned the story around.
As for Ashleigh Brewer, according to Stefan Dennis she was "delighted when she learned that her character Kate Ramsay would be killed off" as she "had no plans to return in the future". Read the full interview with Stefan here.
Colette Mann also confirmed that Ashleigh Brewer wanted Kate to be killed off.
Accusing Neighbours of containing too many deaths is kind of missing the point of the soap. That description fits H&A not Neighbours. The latter is far more cheery and grounded in reality on a day-to-day basis than any other soap I watch. Of course it has the occasional bit of drama and tragedy but it's not par for the course. Characters are certainly not being killed off all the time :rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by gillyH1981
Anyway, I give up on this debate as you're obviously not going to be swayed lol :p
Could not agree more with you, dazzle, on all points ....
Thanks Perdy, I appreciate it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Me three Dazzle!
Very much so, they could of done that better!
Thanks a lot, Mirjam :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirjam
You're welcome. I got a bit fed up with Kate trying to steal Kyle from both Jade and Georgia, she was only ever interested in the guy she couldn't have but when he was available, she wasn't interested. Not until after he broke up with Georgia that is.
True. Her latest stunt - being deeply in love with two different men within a couple of weeks - was just the icing on the cake for me! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirjam
Still, I didn't dislike Kate, I just wished she'd been written a bit better and more consistently. I think Ashleigh Brewer is a decent enough actress and hope she finds success after Neighbours (and peace and quiet from her rabid "fans").
I agree, I liked Kate in the beginning but what the writers did with the character didn't agree with me. Not Ashleigh's fault, she has to do with what the writers write :D
They didn't have to kill Kate off in such a pathetic way. a return storyline would be more believable than Kate's exit.
It was Ashleigh's way to be killed off and don't forget that this is a program that is being shown before the watershed so they cannot show too many gory details.
Get real, people coming back from the dead because somebody has dreamt their death is not going to work againQuote:
Originally Posted by gillyH1981
Get real, people coming back from the dead because somebody has dreamt their death is not going to work againQuote:
Originally Posted by gillyH1981
She could still return even though she died :p has been done before in soaps
Yes, but as I said .. really would not work again, in my opinion ... and Scott McGregor will be leaving Neighbours again before long ... there really would be no point as much as Gillly would love for it to happen :p
Don't encourage Gilly, Tammy :pQuote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I see Gilly has been banned from another forum :banned:... I fear we will see more of fantasy and wishful thinking here now :wall:
She's notorious among the Neighbours online community for her obsessiveness about the soap, and particularly about Kate and Mark. She's been banned/blocked on numerous sites. She's even been reported to the police for harrassing Ashleigh Brewer according the this tweet! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
It must be serious when I've seen more than one person write that Ashleigh probably wanted to be killed off in the hope of silencing Gilly.