Current Episode Discussion - August to Oct

Even though Johnny treated Tina badly tonight, I don't really care much as I think her presence has ruined Johnny. I honestly think that Billy Murray would not be leaving EE if it was not for the fact that they made Johnny all domesticated. Johnny is a better character without her. Johnny was very scary when he grabbed Ruby like that. I can't believe he said he would break his own daughter. Scary. :eek:

I don't condone what Johnny did but where does Peggy get off using Ruby in her war with Johnny.

Ok thanks, her name only credits her as casualty and grange- Hill not Spooks, but I'm sure its her. I cannot sleep before I'm sure, it will keep bugging me now.

i have hated johnny allan since he practically tortured jake and danny that night, but tonight was too far, poor peggy, i really like her and i love the elaosnship that enders have fromed between her and ruby, however i wish ruby had seen johnny when he was doing that to peggy, That way she would never forgive him. Has anybody noticed that he seems to have a split perosnality? he was genuinely nice to peggy, then turned evil, he has ceratainly got a few screws loose. Cant believe how that barmaid just stripped for him though, i thought she was someone flirty but as someone said before about tina classy at the same time, i dont reckon much to her now though.

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Originally Posted by Dutchgirl

Ok thanks, her name only credits her as casualty and grange- Hill not Spooks, but I'm sure its her. I cannot sleep before I'm sure, it will keep bugging me now.

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her credits may have not been updated yet with Spooks ???:searchme:

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Originally Posted by justjodi

her credits may have not been updated yet with Spooks ???:searchme:

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IMDB is nearly always up to speed with things but thank you for caring.:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by jojomum

I don't get why Peggy put her hand through to get the cards though!! She must have realised he would do something :searchme:

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or at least told him to PUT THEM THRU THE LETTER SLOT..:searchme:
one thing bothers me if i know my gangster/mobster stories ,, most of these men are dedicated to their childeren even tho they are awful to their wives and mistresses,, seems like Johnny has a bit of a problem mentally.. most gang leaders do not dirty their hands,, even old time gangsters let their flunkies do the dirty work,, okkkkk never mind:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by justjodi

or at least told him to PUT THEM THRU THE LETTER SLOT..:searchme:
one thing bothers me if i know my gangster/mobster stories ,, most of these men are dedicated to their childeren even tho they are awful to their wives and mistresses,, seems like Johnny has a bit of a problem mentally.. most gang leaders do not dirty their hands,, even old time gangsters let their flunkies do the dirty work,, okkkkk never mind:rolleyes:

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Maybe something snapped?:eek:

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Originally Posted by Dutchgirl

Maybe something snapped?:eek:

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I think Johnny is slowly starting to go mad. He has lost control and can no longer keep the gangster parts and family parts of his life separate!!

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Originally Posted by littlemo

I was very surprised at the way Johnny grabbed Ruby, and how he spoke to her. He's really losing it. The way they are remind me of the relationship Den and Sharon had. But Johnny is a lot worse than Den because Den never treated Sharon in the way that he behaved tonight.

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I can see what you mean here. I guess it shows that 'gangsters' cannot protect their families from who they are.

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Originally Posted by Richie_lecturer

I've been watching since day 1 and have seen the highs and the lows of EE, fortunately more highs, though pretty much non-stop lows for the last few years. Believe me if you think tonight's ep has been good, watch some of the classic episodes of the 80s and even much of the 90s. They really were magnificant.

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I've not seen the last two episodes so I can't comment on Friday's which most people seem to think was a lot better than recent ones. However, as another who has watched since the first episode (though I did miss quite a few in the first couple of years), I agree with Richie and Alan. I'm sure the characterisation was much better back in the 80s and 90s. Characters like Nick Cotton, the old Den, Angie, Cindy, Arthur, Michelle, Ricky, Frank, Bianca, Ethel, Terry, Irene, Lofty, Mel, Steve....I could go on... all seemed so much better and somehow more real than many of today's crop, though I have to admit there were a few duff ones as well. I always thought Pete Beale couldn't act his way out of a paper bag and then there were Huw and his friend, whose name I can't remember. But also the story lines were more dynamic and gripping without resorting to over-dramatic and unreal situations.