How Was Your Day? VII

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Originally Posted by swmc66

Good employers will be supportive. As long as they understand mental health. I have appointed people in senior positions that have had a mental illness knowing their History. The sickness rules are there really for the ones that play the system. Genuine illness has to be supported if not you could be dragged through the courts.

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Good employers will!
But there are legal requirements to grant
interviews to those with disability/ certain
illnesses. Also to withholding a position
from someone purely on those grounds
and open to challenge.So those less good
will also-ungraciously.

Re Game Players- I think most of those
who have done it for some time have now
been "dealt with".

My point was really about people who have
had a job for some time and little sick absence
- then had an illness
inc a mental illness that has put them outside
limits. Having been monitored quite soon after
absence began-
Then due to not being able to fully comply
with return to work arrangements even tho
in a small way - have found dismissal proceedings
on grounds of ineffiency commenced.
Unless they can rectify things very quickly and
despite union& legal assistance have not been
stop this.
I mentioned large employers- usually personnel
matters are decided nationally and local managers
are mouth-pieces and letter-issuers for the
"procedures". Not able to make small judgment
decisions. I agree with there being rules but.....
Financial decisions by national/govt bodies are taken
on what will be cheapest this budget year not what
is better long-term.
People are now more aware of procedures- this puts
a stress on them- also a lesser one on those not ill
but who can see what could happen to them if they
were.
It always good to hear of someone doing the right
thing without legal pressure. Long may you do so!

Finally I havent written this because of treatment
of myself or friends/ family but just based on
changes in the workplace in hard times!

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Originally Posted by swmc66

Good employers will be supportive. As long as they understand mental health. I have appointed people in senior positions that have had a mental illness knowing their History. The sickness rules are there really for the ones that play the system. Genuine illness has to be supported if not you could be dragged through the courts.

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Good employers will!
But there are legal requirements to grant
interviews to those with disability/ certain
illnesses. Also to withholding a position
from someone purely on those grounds
and open to challenge.So those less good
will also-ungraciously.

Re Game Players- I think most of those
who have done it for some time have now
been "dealt with".

My point was really about people who have
had a job for some time and little sick absence
- then had an illness
inc a mental illness that has put them outside
limits. Having been monitored quite soon after
absence began-
Then due to not being able to fully comply
with return to work arrangements even tho
in a small way - have found dismissal proceedings
on grounds of ineffiency commenced.
Unless they can rectify things very quickly and
despite union& legal assistance have not been
stop this.
I mentioned large employers- usually personnel
matters are decided nationally and local managers
are mouth-pieces and letter-issuers for the
"procedures". Not able to make small judgment
decisions. I agree with there being rules but.....
Financial decisions by national/govt bodies are taken
on what will be cheapest this budget year not what
is better long-term.
People are now more aware of procedures- this puts
a stress on them- also a lesser one on those not ill
but who can see what could happen to them if they
were.
It always good to hear of someone doing the right
thing without legal pressure. Long may you do so!

Finally I havent written this because of treatment
of myself or friends/ family but just based on
changes in the workplace in hard times!

When you shortlist someone for a job if its done properly you will not know who they are or whether they are disabled on not. We only look at all of that when we analyse data at the end of the recruitment process. We may get to know when we ask if there are any special requirements for interview otherwise I have no idea. I have never interviewed anyone because they are disabled and that I feel I have to. I just interview who comes out best at shortlisting. As for the new ways of dealing with sickness I agree it is harsh when someone has worked years and given so much it can feel that they are not valued. My sisters friends going through that right now and I think she has got to the point where she wants them to let her go.

Unfortunately abuse of sickness is still around. I had to deal with a case recently. People still shock and surprise me and they make it harder for genuine cases.

When you shortlist someone for a job if its done properly you will not know who they are or whether they are disabled on not. We only look at all of that when we analyse data at the end of the recruitment process. We may get to know when we ask if there are any special requirements for interview otherwise I have no idea. I have never interviewed anyone because they are disabled and that I feel I have to. I just interview who comes out best at shortlisting. As for the new ways of dealing with sickness I agree it is harsh when someone has worked years and given so much it can feel that they are not valued. My sisters friends going through that right now and I think she has got to the point where she wants them to let her go.

Unfortunately abuse of sickness is still around. I had to deal with a case recently. People still shock and surprise me and they make it harder for genuine cases.

I was referring to the 2 ticks guarantee scheme
where employers often councils /govt depts
quarantee a disabled applicant an interview
as long as they have the minimum qualifications.
Applicants can complain if they dont get an
interview and also if when awarding the job
their disability has not been compared fairly
to that of another applicant.
So somewhere in the procedure it is known
they are disabled but at what stage / by whom
I dont know.Also I know at the end all is reviewed
to ensure procedures met and no justifiable
complaints.
A lot of employers will do the right thing
because they are fair people but was making
the point that those not naturally so will do
the right thing.to avoid liigation and unwelcome
publicity. Im sorry if my comment could be
read otherwise. Its a complicated emotive
topic and trying to condense things can
mean you miss important bits out.

I was referring to the 2 ticks guarantee scheme
where employers often councils /govt depts
quarantee a disabled applicant an interview
as long as they have the minimum qualifications.
Applicants can complain if they dont get an
interview and also if when awarding the job
their disability has not been compared fairly
to that of another applicant.
So somewhere in the procedure it is known
they are disabled but at what stage / by whom
I dont know.Also I know at the end all is reviewed
to ensure procedures met and no justifiable
complaints.
A lot of employers will do the right thing
because they are fair people but was making
the point that those not naturally so will do
the right thing.to avoid liigation and unwelcome
publicity. Im sorry if my comment could be
read otherwise. Its a complicated emotive
topic and trying to condense things can
mean you miss important bits out.

thanks maidmarian
I do not think they use it as they should otherwise we would have more disabled people in jobs. in my NHS job when we do a staff survey not one of the staff team list they have a disability or long term condition. They must be scared to say so. Its meant to be anonymous but they still are anxious about it. That's the environment people are working in now.

thanks maidmarian
I do not think they use it as they should otherwise we would have more disabled people in jobs. in my NHS job when we do a staff survey not one of the staff team list they have a disability or long term condition. They must be scared to say so. Its meant to be anonymous but they still are anxious about it. That's the environment people are working in now.

Just spent hours in A and E as my husband fell down the stairs. Think he has damaged his knee. Still waiting for someone to look at his xrays. My children rang me at work saying the paramedics were with him and taking him to Whipps Cross Hospital . Weird as its not my local hospital. This is the third time his done something to his leg. First time he broke one running after my 3 yr old daughter in a park. She was running in between trees pretending to be little red riding hood. He thought she was going to get injured and injured himself in the process.

Ughh...it's horrible waiting for hours in A&E. Hope your husband's knee isn't damaged too badly. :)